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Smokers may not be able to afford ‘Obamacare’
The Seattle Times / The Associated Press ^ | January 24, 2013 | Ricardo Alonzo-Zaldivar

Posted on 01/24/2013 11:25:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Millions of smokers could be priced out of health insurance because of tobacco penalties in President Obama’s health-care law, according to experts who are teasing out the potential impact of a little-noted provision in the massive legislation.

The Affordable Care Act — or “Obamacare” — allows health insurers to charge smokers buying individual policies up to 50 percent higher premiums starting next Jan. 1.

For a 55-year-old smoker, the penalty could reach nearly $4,250 a year...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; obama; obamacare; pufflist; smoking; taxes; tobacco
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To: 9YearLurker

I thought insurers were not allowed to charge more for people with pre-existing conditions.


41 posted on 01/25/2013 4:34:36 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Drug addicts will pay more? Fine by me.


42 posted on 01/25/2013 4:38:31 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the govt runs healthcare now... which means, they have to foot the bill... and will be looking for any way to cut expenses

like not allowing the elderly to have care or extended care. smokers will be another group. drinkers may come after that.

of course, no matter what... teachers and govt employees will have the finest care.


43 posted on 01/25/2013 4:47:53 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
next stop...


44 posted on 01/25/2013 4:49:59 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Wolfie

You really should brush up on your reading comprehension or maybe you just should post on topics of which you know nothing.


45 posted on 01/25/2013 4:57:59 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tzimisce
Every smoker I know voted for Obama.

I seriously doubt any FReeper voted for Zero, so either you're full of it or don't know very many normal people.

46 posted on 01/25/2013 5:00:35 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When they came for the smokers, I didn’t protest, because I was not a smoker...

When they came for the drinkers, I didn’t protest, because I was not a drinker...

When they came for the overweight, I didn’t protest, because I was not overweight...

When they came for the gun owners, I didn’t protest, because I was not a gun owner...

...


47 posted on 01/25/2013 5:00:53 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Post5203

now now play nice with the mentaly handicaped.... they need to learn sometime.


48 posted on 01/25/2013 5:05:27 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t insurance companies require chemical tests? Hmm. Will the govt now be testing everyone for substances? Will it be mandatory to submit a vial or two? Will we have to do it every year...every six months?


49 posted on 01/25/2013 5:07:13 AM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they got money back, they’d just blow it.


50 posted on 01/25/2013 5:35:25 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would love to see a spread sheet on the taxes that smokers already pay and how much of that money actually was spent to offset health care costs.

I agree with the other poster that smokers die sooner and therefore the so called health care costs are much lower than say the obese and other chronic diseases caused by ‘life style’ choices. Don’t kid yourself folks...soon they will be coming after any and everything ‘they’ deem unhealthy. Got a gun in the house? Higher taxes and insurance costs. Fat? Higher costs and taxes. They are going to tax everything at a higher rate and soon no one will be able to afford insurance.


51 posted on 01/25/2013 5:35:41 AM PST by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: BlueDragon

That’s actually not accurate, but it is neither your nor mine nor the government’s role to tell health insurers how much they can charge their customers.

Unless, oh, wait, smokers can get a subsidy from nonsmokers by keeping a cap on their permitted health insurance costs! Once again, Freepers come out in favor of any subsidy of which they are the beneficiaries.


52 posted on 01/25/2013 5:38:55 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: csmusaret

If health insurers can’t charge based on their actual insurance costs, they really aren’t in the insurance business anymore, are they? They are puppets of an economically fascist government.


53 posted on 01/25/2013 5:39:55 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Ah but they will make it up on volume......;>)


54 posted on 01/25/2013 5:44:47 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: csmusaret

Ha ha!


55 posted on 01/25/2013 6:09:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

they could always quit.

I guess one could say the same thing when government decides to go after red meat or certain cuts of meat with high marbling content or deep fried dishes or movie theater type popcorn. Bloomberg chose large soda cups. Why not ban certain sizes of candy bars? How about requiring regular blood tests of citizens to measure their intake of government restricted food items.

I don’t smoke but it is alarming where this is going. Where will it end.


56 posted on 01/25/2013 6:13:56 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: Joan Kerrey

So you would tell health insurance companies that they can’t price their coverage for risk? That is government dictating our lives.


57 posted on 01/25/2013 6:25:31 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The cost shifting merry-go-round never stops, does it?


58 posted on 01/25/2013 6:40:25 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Gabz

It’s not hard to comprehend. Nicotine addicts will be asked to pay more to cover the costs of the damage their addiction does to their bodies.


59 posted on 01/25/2013 6:55:44 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: MamaTexan

Next year is the year we get to hear every liberal bitch, moan, and complain because they just don’t understand why they have to pay for Obamacare TOO like the conservatives do. Gee Daddy Obama I thought we wasn’t going to have to pay too. I thought mine was going to be FREEEEEE....


60 posted on 01/25/2013 7:11:08 AM PST by jsanders2001
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