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The Dot Matrix, Reloaded - How do you ban assault weapons when you can print them?
National Review Online ^ | January 25, 2013 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 01/25/2013 9:06:34 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/25/2013 9:06:37 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

You make the printers illegal. Might as well add thoughtcrime.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 9:10:57 PM PST by EEGator
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To: neverdem; AD from SpringBay; al_c; AnalogReigns; archy; bmwcyle; Boogieman; bigbob; BuffaloJack; ...

3-D printer ping


3 posted on 01/25/2013 9:13:30 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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To: neverdem
"You can't stop the signal, Mal."

/johnny

4 posted on 01/25/2013 9:14:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: EEGator

That cat is not only already out of the bag, but breeding more. They’re in an awkward position now, can’t do anything against 3D printing itself without making America the laughing stock of the tech world.


5 posted on 01/25/2013 9:19:26 PM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s a race to the end, now.

I’ll follow the rules as long as I can.

Everyone has a point where they say “ This is bullshit”.

Society/civilization usually has a consensus that keeps us short of that breaking point.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 9:20:24 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: One Name
Everyone has a point where they say “ This is bullshit”.

I think it was 1973 for me.

/johnny

7 posted on 01/25/2013 9:31:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: neverdem

Simple, you focus on the ammunition, doesn’t matter how many guns you can print if you can’t load them!And it seems like they are already working on this.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 9:41:19 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: neverdem

This type of technology will be amazing in the medical field. Imagine having your artifical heart valve having a tollerance down to the micron.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 9:43:11 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You crack me up, brother!

I checked out in the 70’s, but then I had to check back in for a few decades.

I’m ready to check back out of this motel.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 9:45:17 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: neverdem
You can print high capacity magazines and Gun parts.

However, it doesn't matter, as the ban on so-called assault weapons and high capacity magazines in not serious, it is symbolic, so it is expected that the “bans” will not be effective.

This is the equivalent of a Soviet show trial. This is about image and not about substance.

11 posted on 01/25/2013 9:48:04 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: neverdem
I have been looking into 3D printers. I like the idea of printing magazines out. Seems like you could also print out solid ABS forms which could be used to delicately stamp out light metal parts for firearms and magazines. I also wonder about fabricating fire control components out of ABS-specifically, full auto trigger groups.

ABS is tough but is it tough enough? probably not. The real goal needs to be to move to home printers that can print with stronger polymers, polymers comparable to Glock plastic or even home metal printers.

It's also worth noting that the only reason undetectable firearms don't exist is because firearm manufacturers are prohibited from manufacturing undetectable plastic weapons. The home "printer" is less prohibited. An undetectable ABS .22 LR pistol would be incredibly feasible and that is a game changer.

12 posted on 01/25/2013 9:55:40 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: LukeL
Imagine having your artifical heart valve having a tollerance down to the micron.

Oh, I'd be happy with a new left kidney to replace the one I mashed up on the mountain during that little accident.

A new spleen might be nice, but I never did talk to the old one, and I'm not sure exactly what they do, but it got mashed and removed as well.

/johnny

13 posted on 01/25/2013 9:59:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: neverdem
Gotta start somewhere...
Get a magic marker, keep it in your pocket,
everywhere you can...write / scrawl / express / communicate
these 3 things:
FU*BO and Molon Labe
14 posted on 01/25/2013 10:01:32 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: neverdem

“What about the rest of us? Cody sees us as potential allies. “Traditional conservatives love it. I’m getting incredibly enthusiastic e-mails from Red-Staters,” he says. “And I can even get some Occupy people on our side.””

LOl, this dude is all right.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 10:26:41 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: RC one

ABS is hard but brittle. Where the buffer tube and hand grip area meets on the lower receiver is a stress point where it commonly cracks and break. One can reinforce the area by thickening it with extra layer of plastic and it must be done in a way not to interfere with the other working component of the rifle. A finished plastic lower with metal pins, hammer, trigger, sear and etc, slapped onto a 22 lr upper, the weapon probably will last. Next problem is the weapon in 5.56mm or larger will heat up the upper and may affect the plastic lower. There are commercial lower made of plastic available at substantially lower price then aluminum/metal ones, but weapon heating up from prolong firing has been known to melt the plastic a bit. IMHO a 22lr rifle with a 3D printed lower is possible, larger calibers may be a challenge due to shock of recoil, heating and stress from prolong usage. 3D printed lower receiver does allow one to bypass gov scrutiny in owning a firearm.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 10:28:43 PM PST by Fee
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To: RC one

A good idea would be to print a shape that could used make a lost wax or investment mold for casting your part in your metal of choice, especially if the master is made with a low melting point material. Those processes are easy to do and reproduce parts in fine detail. Very little finish machining would be required.


17 posted on 01/25/2013 10:55:35 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: neverdem

You don’t have to ‘print’ a gun. Any descent metal worker can manufacture an automatic rifle in the matter of a few hours. A simple metal working shop and a schematic is all that is needed.

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18 posted on 01/25/2013 11:54:42 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: neverdem

Time to develop 3D printed firearms that can also use 3D printed ammunition, of which probes the area of caseless ammunition.
Print your own ammo? Quite possible and opens up the imagination of new designs.

In Brisbane Australia there is a company that makes Metalstorn firearms, I have a resume ready for them, the next level of high rate of fire weapons.


19 posted on 01/26/2013 2:49:17 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Mastador1
Simple, you focus on the ammunition

Exactly. That's why I'm already working on an ammo printer. So far they look great but they don't make that 'bang' noise. Yet.

20 posted on 01/26/2013 3:35:17 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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