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To: pabianice
Well, this will come as a shock to the people who wrote the English Bill of Rights in 1689.

On the other hand, Danny Glover et al, have their own Stargate Portal with which they step into and out of reality as it suits them, so perhaps they believe Patrick Henry had one, too; using it, he went back in time to grant free Protestants the RKBA so he could have it for himself later on...

But even if we confine liberal amnesia to the post Revolutionary period, they've kind of got a problem. Because the Pennsylvania Constitution, which predates ratification of the US Constitution by 13 years, includes this rather curious provision:

Section 21 . Right to Bear Arms The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

Now, it is true that Pennsylvania did not actually outlaw slavery until 1780, but I note no reference to a "militia" in this provision. People who actually care about history should also note that in 1780 the free population (which included blacks) outnumbered the slave population (which included whites) by about 40:1 in The Commonwealth.

So, even if those sneaky Pennsylvanians left out "militia" to avoid being called racists, but were just as anxious to keep their slave populations in check as those evil Virginians, they surely didn't need a militia or even a RKBA to do that. With that kind of ratio even pacifist Quakers with harsh words could have done so.

Yet still, for some reason, they felt the need to specifically recognize a right of personal and collective self-defense. Maybe, just maybe, it was this: Birthplace of the Second Amendment 1765

Facts can be pesky things. Except to liberals...

20 posted on 01/26/2013 12:37:30 PM PST by FredZarguna (And it's a felony beef.)
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To: FredZarguna
Facts can be pesky things. Except to liberals...

Teddy Roosevelt put it well when he said if you want to piss off a Conservative tell him a lie; if you want to piss off a Liberal tell him a truth.

Teddy Roosevelt didn't say those exact words but you get the picture. Teddy actually said "If you want to make a Conservative mad tell him a lie, if you want to make a liberal mad tell him the truth."

35 posted on 01/26/2013 2:34:45 PM PST by MosesKnows
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