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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; ...
RE :”I think this amnesty BOHICA mess shows that the nation has lost its bearings, and things are likely to get much worse. “

I know why there is such support for illegals now, besides having O work on it calling them ‘immigrants’ and relating them to my grandparents who came in legally through Ellis Island just after WWI.

The reason is something I been warning about here for many years its : overwhelming LEGAL immigration (non-whites naturally) . And this started long before Obama,
I see it here every-day and my East coast state has been Balkin-ized allowing wave after wave of tax increases and same sex marriage and Dream Act due to these huge voter changes.
And here a large % are Koreans. Didnt the pubbies promise these were conservatives?

When you move so many foreigners in so fast and many jump the system with family visas they are going to be sympathetic to illegals who they see are like them.
Especially those who where raised here as kids who are now young adults. You can forget about sending them anyplace.

And as Obama portrays illegals as the same as those ‘who built this country’ who do we have to counter that message?
Romney? Yep, he was the immigration hawk in the primary.

42 posted on 01/31/2013 9:40:12 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Liz; ...
Rub is claiming his plan doesn't give ‘immediate citizenship’ but it does give citizenship, meaning giving them voting even if delayed a few years.

After the Romney (who was the immigration hawk in R primary) disaster I am convinced that Dems have such a huge advantage on this issue now that we better draw a line in a place where we have some chance of winning, and that is citizenship(voting) .

Remove citizenship from Rubs bill and Dems will reject it.
Or Only give citizenship to illegals who are likely to vote against Dems (in the bill) and Dems will reject it. That may exclude 99% of illegals.

Rub wants to run for POTUS and now he knows Hispanics will cream those in that race against ‘reform’ as they did Romney.

Perfect example : undocumented (illegal) adults who were brought here illegally as underage kids and grew up here and graduated from HS and maybe even now in college
There is no way Republicans will win a fight trying to kick them out. In fact no Republicans POTUS will suggest it. Republicans better wake up and smell the coffee.
We better be realistic or it is over, or they will all vote Dem when a Rub/Obama amnesty bill finally passes.

43 posted on 01/31/2013 10:10:44 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: sickoflibs

Boehner: It’s ‘time to deal’ with immigration
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Fine but isnt it high time you also ‘deal” with all those 30 MILLION illegal aliens ???

what are you going to do about them ???

Why are they still here ???


44 posted on 01/31/2013 10:31:23 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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