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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Liz; DoughtyOne
There is no way Republicans will win a fight trying to kick them out. In fact no Republicans POTUS will suggest it. Republicans better wake up and smell the coffee. We better be realistic or it is over, or they will all vote Dem when a Rub/Obama amnesty bill finally passes.

We are screwed either way I guess. If the GOP says deport them all, they vote for Dems. If the GOP lets them stay, they all get "path to citizenship" and vote Dem, or worse, eventually.

"Wake up and smell the coffee?" Then what?

47 posted on 02/01/2013 12:48:46 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Liz; ...
RE :”We are screwed either way I guess. If the GOP says deport them all, they vote for Dems. If the GOP lets them stay, they all get “path to citizenship” and vote Dem, or worse, eventually. “Wake up and smell the coffee?” Then what?”

That is what we got now that has to be changed.

We got one group of GOP who are rushing to give illegals the vote and benefits hoping that will buy them a few votes, perhaps a few Asian votes since even Asians vote against the GOP now.

The other group, the ‘ deport them all even those raised here since childhood ’ Gside has ideas so toxic that they wont even offer their ideas in a proposal for a bill anymore. They just whisper them to each other.
(and they cant win national elections on it either to do it by EO)
So their position in practice is ‘do nothing’.

So here are the three proposals far:

1) Give amnesty and the vote now(Obama), or
2) Give amnesty and the vote a little later, after a panel decides the border is effeciively closed ??? (Rub, Mccain))
3) Stick head in sand, do nothing, offer nothing, and pray that Bohner doesnt put #1 or #2 up for a house vote because they are likely to pass. with Dem votes

How about a #4 that doesnt give illegals the vote, doesnt give them freebees, gives a stricter path to legalization (say for those who grew up here as kids and graduated HS) without rallying Hispanics to cream the GOP again in 2016 for demonizing those for 'who they are' rather than 'what they did' ?

How about in the bill a part that makes it a felony to bring a minor to this country illegally? Should have done that in the Reagan amnesty bill. That criminalizes the victimizers not the victims.

49 posted on 02/01/2013 5:16:47 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :” If the GOP lets them stay,...”

The problem is that ‘them’ are all not the same.

51 posted on 02/01/2013 5:44:33 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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