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Shops to start charging you for paying by credit card from tomorrow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268744/New-fee-using-credit-card-begins-Sunday-retailers-sa ^ | January 26, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/27/2013 7:28:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip

The retailers already have it factored in, duh


41 posted on 01/27/2013 11:06:10 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Logical me
Those in California will shi! a brick.

Reread the article. California and several other states already forbid the practice.

42 posted on 01/27/2013 11:15:11 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: driftless2

They are going to have to hire more employees to handle the cash transactions......penny smart...pound foolish.


43 posted on 01/27/2013 11:16:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: goldi
Bring the merchandise to the counter, withdraw your credit card, ask the cashier, “Oh, by the way, are you going to add a 4% credit card surcharge to the purchase price of this sweater?

And the odds are, the cashier won't have a frigging clue what your talking about and really does not give a flip if you buy the sweater or not.

44 posted on 01/27/2013 11:35:33 AM PST by Ditto
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To: VAFreedom
I’ve seen “cash discount” before. once or twice, in the past... say 30 years of shopping.

That used to be quite common at the gas pump. I haven't seen it in years as retailers just bumped up their prices to include the card processing fees. The only ones getting screwed are the hardcore, cash only customers and you don't see them much anymore either.

We have largely become a "cashless" society.

Regards,
GtG

45 posted on 01/27/2013 1:56:02 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: bgill
I have never seen a "discount for cash" but I shop locally when I can, and always pay cash when patronizing local mom-and-pops. Just to do my neighbors a little favor.
46 posted on 01/27/2013 2:09:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: oh8eleven

I was just over in NJ today - it’s 10 cents a gallon cash discount. Gas is cheaper in NJ than here in Pennsy, so I end up saving about 25 cents a gallon. Hey, in these times a few bucks here and there are important.


47 posted on 01/27/2013 5:43:21 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Uncle Chip
Economics 101, as taught in any public High School:

ALL COSTS of doing business including raw materials, labor, utilities, transportation, inventory, marketing and taxes are included in the end cost of the product.

Anyone who doesn't already know that the 1.5% to 3% transaction charge that credit card companies were charging to retailers wasn't already in the final cost of the product is a fool.

Translation: That means if you paid CASH for any product from any retailer that accepted credit cards, your price included that 1.5% - 3% transaction charge already.

Rather than give you the 1.5% - 3% back as a "cash discount" the retailer pocketed an extra profit on your behalf.

So what everyone should do at this point is PAY CASH and DEMAND you get the credit card transaction fee BACK from the retailer at the point of sale since the retailer DOES NOT have to pay it when you pay cash (and they built that cost into their price.)

BTW: Anyone else remember CASH and CREDIT prices for gas? Guess what: Gas Station Retailers got smart (at least here in IL) and started charging EVERYONE the CREDIT price years ago. One price, whether you pay CASH or use a CREDIT card. Guess where that 1.5% - 3% transaction fee went when you paid cash? That's right: in the gas station owner's pocket.

It's high time for a consumer credit revolution.....

48 posted on 01/27/2013 5:55:31 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: VAFreedom

There is a store near where I live that has two prices on each item, one for cash and one for credit.


49 posted on 01/27/2013 5:57:37 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: usconservative

Here in Indiana, truck diesel fuel is typically priced both ways - I believe the add charge for credit is around 10 cents per gallon.


50 posted on 01/27/2013 6:01:24 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Uncle Chip

The place where I buy grain for our horses gives me a two percent discount if I pay with cash or check...no discount if I pay with credit card. This has been their policy for several years.


51 posted on 01/27/2013 6:02:32 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Uncle Chip

This does not apply to debit cards. So if you have a debit card number that goes with your Credit card just use it.


52 posted on 01/27/2013 6:14:00 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Uncle Chip
Received after business hours, Friday, 1-25-2013
In November 2012, the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York preliminarily approved a proposed settlement agreement in the 'In re Payment Card Interchange Fee and Merchant Discount Antitrust Litigation'. As part of this settlement, Visa and MasterCard rules prohibiting surcharging for merchants in the U.S. for credit card transactions will change beginning January 27, 2013.

Surcharge requirements issued by Visa and MasterCard include:

- Limit surcharging to credit cards only (no surcharging debit and prepaid cards) and limit the amount of the surcharge to the applicable merchant discount rate for the credit card transaction surcharged.

- Disclose the actual dollar amount of the surcharge on every receipt and disclose the fact that the merchant assesses a surcharge at the point of store entry and at the point of sale.

- Cap on the level of the surcharge. The level of the fee that a merchant may charge a cardholder is capped in relation to the merchant's cost for Visa and MasterCard credit acceptance.

Notice of Visa's Rules Changes

In November 2012, the federal district court overseeing 'In re Payment Card Interchange Fee and Merchant Discount Antitrust Litigation (MDL 1720)', the merchant class action interchange litigation against Visa and other defendants, preliminarily approved a class settlement agreement that resolves antitrust claims involving Visa's interchange and merchant acceptance rules in the U.S. and its territories. We are writing to inform you of the changes Visa is making to its rules, effective January 27, 2013, applicable to transactions at merchants in the U.S. and U.S. territories 1 ('U.S. merchants'). This letter describes certain merchant acceptance practices that will be permitted. The text of Visa's revised rules will be available at www.visa.com in mid-January.

Visa's Operating Regulations already allow merchants to engage in certain practices to steer customers to forms of payment other than Visa cards, including offering discounts to customers that initially present a Visa card to steer to another payment type or to a different type of Visa card. Following this settlement, U.S. merchants may surcharge Visa Credit card transactions (not debit or pre-paid card transactions) at the Visa 'brand level' or at the 'product level,' but not both, subject to the following requirements:

First, a U.S. merchant's surcharges on Visa Credit card transactions cannot exceed certain levels.

U.S. merchants who surcharge at the 'brand level' may impose a surcharge on Visa Credit card transactions if the surcharge:

- is the same for all Visa Credit card transactions, regardless of the card's Issuer or product type (e.g., Visa Traditional, Visa Traditional Rewards, Visa Signature, Visa Signature Preferred);

- is no greater than the merchant's average discount rate for Visa Credit card transactions for the preceding one month or 12 months; and

does not in any event exceed 4% (even in cases where the merchant's average discount rate exceeds 4%).

U.S. merchants who surcharge at the 'product level' may impose a surcharge on Visa Credit card transactions if the surcharge:

- is the same for all transactions on the particular product type (e.g., Visa Traditional, Visa Traditional Rewards, Visa Signature, Visa Signature Preferred), regardless of Issuer;

- is no greater than the merchant's average discount rate associated with the Visa Credit card product type transactions being surcharged for the preceding one month or 12 months, minus the regulated debit cap established by the Board of the Governors of the Federal Reserve System;

- does not in any event exceed 4% (even in cases where the merchant's average discount rate exceeds 4%).

Second, for U.S. merchants that accept credit or charge cards of other payment network brands, surcharging practices are subject to a competitive 'level playing field' limitation that depends on whether those payment network brands impose surcharge restrictions on credit cards and the merchants' costs of accepting those credit cards:

- If the merchant accepts a competing payment network brand that is as or more expensive to the merchant than Visa, and that competing payment network limits the merchant's ability to surcharge credit cards, the merchant may surcharge Visa Credit cards only in the same way as the merchant would be allowed to surcharge the competing payment network's credit card (or on the terms on which the merchant actually surcharges the competing payment network's credit cards).

- If the merchant accepts a competing payment network brand of credit card that prohibits or effectively prohibits the merchant from surcharging in a particular channel of commerce (i.e. either face-to-face or non-face-to-face), the merchant may not surcharge Visa Credit cards unless it also surcharges the competing payment network's credit cards regardless of the cost of that card to the merchant. The amount of the surcharge on the competing payment network brand must equal at least the lesser of: the cost to accept the competing brand's credit cards or the surcharge imposed on Visa Credit cards.

This cost-based comparison is performed by comparing the merchant's Visa Credit card cost of acceptance (the average effective interchange rate plus the average of all network fees imposed on merchants or acquirers applicable to Visa credit card transactions at the merchant for the preceding one or twelve months), with the merchant's cost of acceptance for other credit card networks (the average merchant discount rate for the preceding one or twelve months). If the merchant cannot determine its Visa Credit card cost of acceptance, a merchant may use the Visa Credit card cost of acceptance for its merchant category, which is available on www.visa.com/merchantsurcharging, to compare its Visa Credit card cost of acceptance in the merchant's category to the cost of accepting competing payment network credit cards.

A U.S. merchant can 'contract out' of these competitive 'level playing field' provisions by entering into an individually negotiated agreement with another payment network in which the merchant waives or limits its ability to surcharge transactions on the competitive credit card brand, as long as the agreement is for a fixed duration, the merchant's acceptance of the competitive credit card brand is unrelated to and not conditioned on the merchant's entry into the agreement, the agreement is supported by independent consideration, and the agreement expressly specifies a price at which the merchant may accept transactions on the competitive payment network credit card brand and surcharge those transactions up to the merchant's discount rate for the other credit card brand.

Third, a U.S. merchant that chooses to surcharge Visa Credit card transactions must satisfy notification and disclosure requirements. A U.S. merchant that intends to surcharge must provide advance written notice to both Visa and the merchant's acquirer at least 30 days prior to surcharging, which must identify whether the merchant intends to impose surcharges at the brand or product level. Merchants can easily provide this notification to Visa through the visa merchant surcharging site. While notifications may be provided beginning December 20, 2012, actual surcharging of Visa Credit transactions may not commence until January 27, 2013. Please contact your acquirer for their notification requirements.

In addition, a U.S. merchant who surcharges must provide clear disclosure to the merchant's customers (1) at the point of store entry, or in an online environment on the first page that references credit card brands, that the merchant imposes a surcharge that is not greater than its applicable merchant discount rate for Visa Credit card transactions; (2) at the point of interaction or sale with the customer, of the merchant's surcharging practices (including the amount of any surcharges that the merchant imposes and a statement that the surcharge is being imposed by the merchant), in a manner that does not disparage the brand, network, issuing bank, or the payment card product being used; and (3) of the dollar amount of the surcharge on the transaction receipt provided by the merchant to its customers.

Merchants must continue to respect a cardholder's decision to pay with Visa: the settlement does not impact merchants' existing obligation to accept for payment properly presented Visa cards, including rewards cards. In addition, the rule changes that Visa is implementing under the settlement do not affect any obligation of a U.S. merchant to comply with all applicable state or federal laws, including state laws regarding surcharging of credit or debit card transactions, and federal and state laws regarding deceptive or misleading disclosures.

Additional Practices and Policies

- Visa will meet with merchant buying groups that meet certain criteria and that seek to negotiate proposals that provide reasonable commercial benefits to both parties

- A merchant will be permitted to decline acceptance of Visa products at all of its merchant outlets that operate under the same trade name or banner in the United States

1 This includes American Samoa, Guam, Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Puerto Rico, U.S. Outlying Islands, and U.S. Virgin Islands.

If you have any questions regarding merchant surcharging, please contact your acquirer or visit visa merchant surcharging.

Notice of MasterCard Rule Changes

As a result of the U.S. merchant class settlement agreement that was executed on 19 October 2012 and preliminarily approved by the U.S. District Court on 27 November 2012, MasterCard will make changes to certain of its rules and practices affecting merchants in the United States. The class settlement agreement also obligates Visa to make similar modifications of its practices.

The rule changes, which will take effect on 27 January 2013, are summarized below. A detailed description of the MasterCard rule changes and other information relevant to those rule changes can be found at www.mastercardmerchant.com.

Brand-level Surcharge Rules on Credit (not Debit) Cards

Merchants will be able to charge an extra fee to all customers who pay with MasterCard credit cards. This is called a brand level surcharge, and it is allowed if the surcharge:

- is the same for all MasterCard credit cards, regardless of the card's issuer;

- is no more than the lesser of the merchant's average MasterCard merchant discount rate (calculated historically or based on the previous month) or the maximum surcharge cap, which will be posted on MasterCard's website at www.mastercardmerchant.com.

For merchants that accept other brands of credit payment networks, such as American Express, Discover, PayPal or Visa, there are other requirements that depend on whether those brands enforce surcharge restrictions and the costs of those brands to the merchant.

- If the merchant accepts a competing brand of credit card that is as or more expensive than MasterCard, and that competing brand limits the merchant's ability to surcharge, the merchant may surcharge MasterCard credit cards only in the same way as the merchant would be allowed to surcharge the competing brand's cards or on the terms on which the merchant actually surcharges the competing brand's cards.

- If the merchant accepts a competing brand of credit card that prohibits or effectively prohibits the merchant from surcharging in a particular channel of commerce (i.e., either face-to-face or non-face-to-face), the merchant may not surcharge MasterCard cards unless it also surcharges the competing brand's cards regardless of the cost of that brand to the merchant. The amount of the surcharge on the competing brand must at least equal the lesser of: the cost to accept the competing brand or the surcharge imposed on MasterCard cards.

Exception: A merchant may individually negotiate an agreement with the competing brand to waive or limit its ability to surcharge that brand, if that agreement fulfills the terms set out in the surcharge rule modifications that can be found at www.mastercardmerchant.com.

Product-level Surcharge Rules on Credit (not Debit) Cards

A merchant that does not wish to surcharge all MasterCard credit cards may instead impose a surcharge on a particular MasterCard credit card product, such as World Elite MasterCard. The amount of the surcharge must not be more than the merchant's cost to accept the particular MasterCard credit card product, minus the Durbin Amendment's cap on debit-card interchange fees. The surcharge must be the same for all transactions on the particular MasterCard credit card product, regardless of the card's issuer.

For merchants that accept credit cards issued by competing brands, there are requirements similar to the brand level surcharge rules summarized above.

Merchant Registration and Disclosure Obligations Concerning the Surcharge Amount

A merchant's ability to apply either a Brand-level or Product-level Surcharge is conditioned on the merchant's satisfaction of certain disclosure requirements. These disclosure requirements include advance notice to both MasterCard and the merchant's acquirer of the merchant's intention to impose a surcharge no less than thirty days before the merchant implements a surcharge and clear disclosure to the merchant's customers of the merchant's surcharging practices at the point of interaction. In addition, the merchant must disclose the dollar amount of the surcharge on the transaction receipt provided by the merchant to its customers. A detailed description of the merchant disclosure requirements is contained in the rule and a link for a merchant to register its intent to surcharge with MasterCard can be found at www.mastercardmerchant.com.

Nothing in the changes to MasterCard's rules described above affects any obligation of a merchant to comply with applicable state or federal laws, including but not limited to state laws regarding surcharging of credit transactions, and federal and state laws regarding deceptive or misleading disclosures. However, the fact that a merchant's ability to surcharge may be restricted under the laws of one or more states is not intended to limit that merchant's ability under the settlement to surcharge Visa or MasterCard credit cards where permitted by state law.

Additional MasterCard Rules and Policies Impacted by Settlement All Outlets: Merchants may accept MasterCard cards at fewer than all of the merchant's 'trade names' or 'banners' if the merchant operates multiple businesses under different trade names or banners.

Buying Groups: Merchants that form buying groups that meet certain criteria may make proposals to MasterCard about card acceptance on behalf of the group's members. If MasterCard believes that the group's proposal 'provides reasonable commercial benefits to the parties,' it must negotiate with the buying group and decide, in 'good faith,' whether or not to make an agreement with the group. Information concerning how a buying group could contact MasterCard to initiate such negotiations can be found at mastercard merchant.

Additional Information

In addition to the MasterCard website previously identified, all these rule changes are set forth in full in the Settlement Agreement, which appears on the website: Payment Card Settlement.


53 posted on 01/28/2013 11:48:55 AM PST by kitchen (Due to the increased price of ammo, do not expect a warning shot.)
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