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Bipartisan Plan Faces Resistance in G.O.P.
NYTimes ^ | January 28, 2013 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Posted on 01/28/2013 7:51:15 PM PST by Steelfish

Bipartisan Plan Faces Resistance in G.O.P.

MICHAEL D. SHEAR January 28, 2013

GREENVILLE, S.C. — At Tommy’s Country Ham House, a popular spot downtown for politics and comfort food, not much has changed since 2007, the last time conservatives here made it crystal clear to politicians how they felt about what they see as amnesty for people who entered the country illegally.

“What we need to do is put them on a bus,” said Ken Sowell, 63, a lawyer from Greenville, as he ate lunch recently at the diner. “We need to enforce the border. If they want to apply legally more power to them. I don’t think just because a bunch of people violate the law, we ought to change the law for them.”

Six years ago, the intensity of that kind of sentiment was enough to scuttle immigration overhaul efforts led by President George W. Bush and a bipartisan group of lawmakers, including Senators John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, both Republicans.

Now, as a new bipartisan group of eight senators, including Mr. Graham and Mr. McCain, try again — (snip) — members of Congress will have to overcome deep-seated resistance like that expressed in the restaurant if they are to push legislation forward.

Republicans are betting that opposition from Tea Party activists and the party’s most conservative supporters will have less impact because of the dire electoral consequences of continuing to take a hard line regarding immigrants.

(snip) There is some evidence that the politics of immigration may be changing. Sean Hannity, the conservative host at Fox News, said days after the 2012 presidential election that he has “evolved” on immigration and now supports a comprehensive approach that could “get rid of” the issue for Republicans.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 01/28/2013 7:51:23 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Hah, McLame and Grahmnasty getting flak.


2 posted on 01/28/2013 7:58:11 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish

It just warms my heart how generous the NYT is with their advice to Republicans.

To summarize that advice - “Roll over. Play dead. Good boy.”

Actually they never seem to get the Good Boy.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 7:58:35 PM PST by DManA
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To: Steelfish
Well, if it is simply a case of taking issues off the table, why not just give the Democrats everything they want? Oh, wait, the GOP already is.

Time for a new party...

4 posted on 01/28/2013 7:59:02 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Steelfish
Democrats react to GOP idea that passing amnesty will help them win elections
5 posted on 01/28/2013 8:01:31 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Steelfish

Part of the Kabuki theater, folks.

Don’t be fooled.

This deal was already signed. The rest is entertainment.


6 posted on 01/28/2013 8:02:55 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Sad, and most likely true!


7 posted on 01/28/2013 8:04:51 PM PST by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: Steelfish

If it’s a “bipartisan” plan, then where’s this resistance coming from?


8 posted on 01/28/2013 8:05:32 PM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: Red Steel

It time to Target Grahamnasty in 2014 !
He needs to retired and so does
Mitchy Poo from Kentucky!

Lindsay needs to be retired to the closest Gay Bar in DC !


9 posted on 01/28/2013 8:09:48 PM PST by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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Agree but Tea Partiers screwed up in AZ and got McCain re-elected. With 71% Hispanics voting for the Rats, this number will only increase in future elections. And Rubio is the new golden boy in FL. And don’t forget the new generation of Bushes.


10 posted on 01/28/2013 8:16:55 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

hehe

Texans and Floridians will be all hat and no cattle. Amnesty will mean Texas and Florida go the way of California, and the dream of any conservative ever winning the presidency will end there, as defeated as the Texas and Florida of the Confederacy.


11 posted on 01/28/2013 8:28:12 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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I recall Mel Martinez was the golden one too of the GOP too .

Rubio is a con artist .
Amnesty push will kill his chances along that K st stooge Ryan .

Watch Rand Paul actions since he has been very clever lately .

The more Senators and Rep get targeted the better .
Grahamnasty is a K St bagman.


12 posted on 01/28/2013 8:32:23 PM PST by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: Steelfish

It doesn’t really matter what people think; congress and the president will do whatever the h*ll they feel like doing, anyway.

The days are gone when congress was the people’s house and responded to the will of the people.

American has an Imperial Government, now, and they mostly do whatever King Hussein wants them to do.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 8:35:21 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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The last time this nightmare was pushed at us, the NATION rejected it by a wide margin. It isn’t just conservatives or the GOP. For example, I’m sure the blacks getting ethnically cleansed from parts of California are just thrilled about this.


14 posted on 01/28/2013 8:38:49 PM PST by Trod Upon (Civilian disarmament is the precursor to democide.)
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“But in many Congressional districts around the country, the prospect of intense opposition carries with it the threat of a primary challenger if Republican lawmakers stray too far from hawkish orthodoxy on the issue.”

Yep, EXACTLY!!!

They WILL find themselves in a VERY COSTLY Primary contest if they vote against their constituents on this issue. EXACTLY the same for the gun grab. The Tea Party, and others, WILL hold these people accountable. The days of voting one way and campaigning the OPPOSITE way are over...and they know it!!!


15 posted on 01/28/2013 8:49:36 PM PST by BobL
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16 posted on 01/28/2013 8:51:47 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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17 posted on 01/28/2013 8:53:32 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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18 posted on 01/28/2013 8:53:51 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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GOP - read my lips, no amnesty in any way shape or form, ever. The moment you let several tens of millions of criminals become citizens two things are going to happen.

One, several tens of millions more will flood across the border and complete the destruction of the United States.

Two, while this is happening, no GOP candidate will ever be elected again. You will have thoroughly alienated your base, and the 'rats will have several tens of millions more voters who they will easily convince they are solely responsible for giving to them citizenship, free healthcare, etc.

You hear me GOP? Amnesty is suicide.

19 posted on 01/28/2013 8:55:00 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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20 posted on 01/28/2013 8:55:00 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Steelfish

Sean Vannity is a fraud...

Then again he knows gullible FOX NEWS viewers will swallow anything.

If you like swallowing cyanide, then the so-called illegal alien “amnesty” plan is right up your alley.

If you want to enfranchise millions of more liberal Democratic voters, kiss America good-bye!


21 posted on 01/28/2013 8:58:47 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Steelfish

I didn’t support Marco Rubio so he could go to
Washington and make whoopee with Chuckie Schumer.


22 posted on 01/28/2013 9:04:01 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Call call call. Ultimately it is their jobs they care sbout.

Tell your friends call call call. Every day call call call.

This will destroy America to give legal residency to people who want to use this country and do not love it or respect it..


23 posted on 01/28/2013 9:13:46 PM PST by amihow
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To: Steelfish
If Chuck The Schmuck Shumer is "for" it, that makes it a no brainer. It is no good for America.

Oppose it with every fiber of your body.

24 posted on 01/28/2013 9:25:51 PM PST by Gritty (The purpose of the Constitution is to insulate personal freedom from the lust for power-A.Napolitano)
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To: jjotto

hehe

Texans and Floridians will be all hat and no cattle. Amnesty will mean Texas and Florida go the way of California, and the dream of any conservative ever winning the presidency will end there, as defeated as the Texas and Florida of the Confederacy.

You seem pretty pleased with the prospect of a conservative never again winning the presidency.

25 posted on 01/28/2013 9:33:07 PM PST by FreedomOfExpression
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If Illegal Aliens were sure to Vote Republican instead of Democrat after completing their “Path to Citizenship”, we wouldn’t hear a peep about Immigration Reform in the Press.

Don’t doubt me.


26 posted on 01/28/2013 9:57:19 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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There is nothing bi-partisan about this plan. Same old Shamnesty. Grahamnesty and McAmenesty need to pelted with rotten veggies.


27 posted on 01/28/2013 10:01:49 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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“All I’d ever hear is, ‘Why don’t you enforce the laws that we already have?’ And then I’d hear, ‘Why don’t you just build the fence?’ ” Mr. Dawson said, describing the comments he expects to hear again during the immigration debate.

Let me see if I'm understanding these people. They can't enforce the laws we have now, that's why we have millions of illegals. They say we can't stop them at the border and we can't deport them. How do they intend to keep thirty million from being in the country 10 years after this amnesty? This is the same thing Reagan told us with his amnesty. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

These are some of the things I'd require in any immigration reform;
End to birthright citizenship. No ifs ands or buts.
A ten year moratorium on all immigration.
Because so many illegal immigrants are from Latin America and China, we will not allow any more immigrants from these countries for another fifty years after the moratorium expires. No family reunification. If they want to be with their family they can stay in their home country.
Immigration after the moratorium will be based on what they can do for America, not what America can do for them.
Because most illegal immigrants are doing jobs people on Welfare should be doing and it would be unfair for American taxpayers to be supporting them while allowing millions of poor people to become legal, for every illegal immigrant legalized one American has to be removed from government assistants. This means no food stamps, government housing, WIC...
English will be the official language. No government forms, including ballots, will be printed in any other language.
Illegals will have to return to their home country while a background check is run. Before they can return they must; be able to read and write English, pay back taxes, repay taxpayers for any expenditures pertaining to their children or themselves. This would include medical care for their American born children.
The border will be secured without an expensive fence. We will dig two trenches 6' wide x 3' deep. The first will be six feet on our side of the border, and will have no trespassing signs posted before you enter it. The 2nd trench will be one half mile away from the first with danger signs on our side. The land in between will be posted as "No Man's Land". Every country will be notified to warn their citizens that Americans will be patrolling the border and will have the authority to shoot anyone within the "No Man's Land" who is not an American Citizen.

28 posted on 01/28/2013 11:12:52 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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