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Microsoft Office 365 is down worldwide
Microsoft Community ^ | 2/1/2013 | fulltlt

Posted on 02/01/2013 7:47:07 AM PST by fulltlt

Microsoft exchange online email is down worldwide.


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1 posted on 02/01/2013 7:47:16 AM PST by fulltlt
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To: fulltlt

Why I think the cloud is a fad in a nutshell.


2 posted on 02/01/2013 7:48:20 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: discostu

LMAO! My company wants to go to MS365 and “the cloud.” This is gonna be fun.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 7:50:57 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: discostu

I can’t think of a single advantage to using “the cloud”.


4 posted on 02/01/2013 7:52:23 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

There are some good things about the Cloud, but no way is it for mission-critical stuff.


5 posted on 02/01/2013 7:53:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: fulltlt
And so we come full circle. The reason so many Apple ][ computers were snuck into offices around the USA 40 years ago is because the Almighty Mainframe, the central point of computing, was not up to the job that could be done quickly with a "Visicalc computer". The idea behind the Microcomputer Revolution was to decentralize, so that a mainframe outage didn't stop people from working.

Who says the pendulum doesn't swing back and forth?

6 posted on 02/01/2013 7:53:32 AM PST by asinclair (B*llshit is a renewable resource.)
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To: discostu

Yep.


7 posted on 02/01/2013 7:53:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: discostu

The software as a web service concept was pushed by MS and other companies back in the late 90s. It was way too early for the technology back then and it isn’t much better now.

The “cloud” is presented as this mystical storage and web services super machine somewhere out there in the ether. It is just collections of servers located in some physical building on the ground, somewhere in the world. Servers fail and if the failover plan also fails it can be disasterous to entities that push critical services and data into the “cloud”. This is not that much different than the outsourcing craze back in the 90s. Put your critical data and resources into the hands of an outside company that has no real stake in your success and you are incurring a huge risk.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 7:58:19 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I can think of a dozen advantages to Office 365 and cloud computing. I can also think of one dealbreaking disadvantage and millions of people are getting that lesson today.


9 posted on 02/01/2013 7:58:45 AM PST by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: discostu

GET A MAC.


10 posted on 02/01/2013 7:59:35 AM PST by Bubba (Kriss... firearm of choice for close encounters of the worst kind)
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To: discostu

The cloud is a marketing gimick for suckers who are too democrat party to realize cloud is just code for “storage on my server”.

BTW storage those suckers are too lazy to realize costs money to their bottom line.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 8:02:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fulltlt

back online 10 min ago [at least for me]


12 posted on 02/01/2013 8:02:38 AM PST by IFly4Him
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To: fulltlt

I have 3 email accounts forwarding to my MS365 account. I don’t see any service interruption. Only problem I has with the service is that it didn’t pickup mail from remote accounts reliably. Never could get to the bottom of that, so I had each of the other accounts ‘Push’ the mail over to MS365 instead. Works better that way.


13 posted on 02/01/2013 8:04:19 AM PST by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania.)
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To: fulltlt

Must be bad weather..........it’s ‘cloudy’...........


14 posted on 02/01/2013 8:04:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: fulltlt

The Cloud is a very bad idea.


15 posted on 02/01/2013 8:04:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: dfwgator
There are some good things about the Cloud, but no way is it for mission-critical stuff.

Another IT guy and I were talking about this subject and this cloud stuff really is starting to "cloud" the judgement of a lot of corporate decision makers and it is getting out of hand.

The biggest pitfall is once you go into the cloud, it is darn near impossible to get out of the cloud. If your company decides to go "cloud" and divests of a lot of their IT infrastructure including their either homegrown software or off the shelf stuff, it is almost impossible to reconstruct that 2, 5, 10, 15 years down the road. You have locked yourself in. The funniest part about all this is that a lot of these management types have become "drunk" on the ability to walk into their IT manager(s) and ask for a functional software change or new program and actually see that change come to fruition within a reasonable time period. They will get a rude awakening when they float into the "cloud" for their total app and data storage needs.

With all that said, there is a niche for the cloud in off-site storage and perhaps very small businesses that don't want any IT infrastructure to worry about and can function with "off the shelf" cloud solutions. But that is a very limited sector of the market.

Interesting times we live in.
16 posted on 02/01/2013 8:04:53 AM PST by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: IFly4Him

back online here too.


17 posted on 02/01/2013 8:05:25 AM PST by fulltlt
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To: fulltlt

They are renaming it to Office 364.


18 posted on 02/01/2013 8:10:25 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Bubba

Doesn’t matter what brand you have if the other side is down.


19 posted on 02/01/2013 8:11:08 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: fulltlt

I remember back in the old days, discoveries of problems in MSFT software would cause the stock price to go up, because they believed in the saying, “never let a crisis go to waste.”


20 posted on 02/01/2013 8:11:44 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
They are renaming it to Office 364.

They could have kept the name if it was a Leap Year.

21 posted on 02/01/2013 8:14:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: asinclair

Switch it from a “cloud” of servers to a peer-to-peer network, where the encrypted data is mirrored six ways from Sunday across all the boxes on network, and then you won’t have to worry about points of failure. Of course, you’ll then have to worry more about the security of the data and retrieving it efficiently.


22 posted on 02/01/2013 8:17:05 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Bubba

Office 365 is cloud-hosted, not hardware dependent. Get a clue.


23 posted on 02/01/2013 8:18:55 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Bubba

What, might I ask, does a MAC have to do with cloud services? Any of these services can fail at any time. Apple has it’s own version of cloud services and I have seen parts of their services fail as well. Having a MAC won’t preclude failure of any cloud services, the MAC is just the client.


24 posted on 02/01/2013 8:21:06 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: fulltlt
Does anyone remember the stupid Microsoft "To the cloud" commercials from about a year ago? They gave two examples of "using the cloud": editing together local photographs to make a good family photo and watching videos stored on your home DVR from an airport. The problem is that neither one of those had anything to do with cloud computing - both used files stored on your own computer to either edit or view. And only one used networking at all.

My friends and I laughed derisively at Microsoft for not having the slightest idea of what they were advertising.

25 posted on 02/01/2013 8:24:43 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: rarestia

Same here. Exactly the same.


26 posted on 02/01/2013 8:32:02 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Well I can think of a few bad advanages to using the cloud.


27 posted on 02/01/2013 8:37:50 AM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: rarestia

Speaking as a software engineer with extensive data access experience from both desktop and web browsers the Cloud is crap! This whole push to get everything on your mobile phone is a pie in the sky dream. It also takes x times more security protocols and layers upon layers. You want security have a main database server(s) on a clustered failover schema and keep a subset of that data locally on desktop/laptop and replicate over a secure network as needed or in the least make data request to your own servers on your own network.

On another tangent I don’t care what version of HTMLx you will never get the rich functionality and robustness of a desktop interface. I hate web apps, but it is cheaper to make them because you can hire lower experienced developers cheaper to make the web pages and only have a couple of high priced devs as your data/logic guys or bypass that cost all together by mining someone else’s web service. Companies get into trouble when those lower devs start designing/implementing more complex systems without the proper experience and I don’t mean writing little household or mobile apps that return tonight’s menu at Bob’s Bar or maintaining a blog. Not to mention the stability of compiled languages over scripts.

Another beef is the Agile method. It has gotten so bastardized it is worthless. I just went to a company that is extreme Agile and trying to find any technical documentation on the code base is a dream or anyone who knows how the whole system works or at least most of it (and they want it that way). There are none. All the systems designed years ago when the waterfall method was used are still in use and stable. Sure, may have cost a bit more but they are worth it in the long run. I equate the Agile method to the mentality of today’s young gun developers and their propensity to only stay in a place long enough to get half done with a project and move on to another job spouting their experience and achievements to get a big boost, never finishing anything and leaving no documentation on anything and a hodge-podge of open source, plug-ins, and third party layers that always seem to need rebooting or re-installing/patching .


28 posted on 02/01/2013 8:46:38 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I can’t think of a single advantage to using “the cloud”.

I agree.

I have a dozen sources for 'clouds', if I wanted to use them. I just don't trust the concept. It is hard enough to not lose data on sites such as Yahoo.

Hard drives are relatively inexpensive, so I don't see porting my important data to some cloud.

I recently bought a 3 TB NAS hard drive (wireless capabilities) for under $200. Plus, I have 6 other USB hard drives for multiple copies of my important stuff.
29 posted on 02/01/2013 8:50:54 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: discostu
Last year I went to the "Maker Faire" in Silicon Valley. Autodesk was there with their "direct from reality" auto-sculptor, a very elaborate setup which includes an array 64 Canon SLR digital cameras and their associated lighting.

There were two or three Autodesk people standing around, looking bored. One of them showed me a sculpture of a show guest that had been made earlier in the day. I asked if I could get one of myself, and the young lady replied "sorry, the cloud's down."

30 posted on 02/01/2013 8:52:02 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Pretty much my take on both topics as well.

Agile’s being used here to avoid accountability. 1 major group is using it, and they just do whatever the hell they want and nothing ever works. It requires more discipline to work, not less.


31 posted on 02/01/2013 9:00:49 AM PST by whatexit
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To: fulltlt

Apparently, it’s more like “Office 364”


32 posted on 02/01/2013 9:04:05 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: fulltlt

Having it be offline is the best thing about the product....


33 posted on 02/01/2013 9:05:05 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Another reason for this push to the cloud was tighter control of who is using the software. It is easier to monitor people hitting your site by a log in ID than track who has it installed locally and how many are using it under one license. SaaS has a continuous revenue string that can be measured and forecast rather than depending on off the shelve/download sales.

Another reason is the ability to scan your data. I don’t care who you are or what security you have, the government and anyone who wants to scans it. How do you think all the marketing studies and email come about? Don’t believe how easy it is, the next time you go to a watering hole that has free internet look around at the techies capturing your wireless signal to see what you are doing and they can get. There is always one or more around and they can be a hundred yards away in their car or an adjoining storefront.


34 posted on 02/01/2013 9:05:25 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: copaliscrossing

It seems cloud was developed by a computer illiterate who thinks of computers as being in the 1950’s computing room with reels and tape.

The cloud is OLD OLD OLD tech.

Probably people who are still clininging to some far out dated crackberry.


35 posted on 02/01/2013 9:06:24 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bubba
GET A MAC.

Get an education.

36 posted on 02/01/2013 9:09:00 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: whatexit

Exactly. Goes along with the lower expectation of dressing for work. Granted I don’t think you should have to wear a suit to work (although I did for years and liked it) I am tired of seeing cargo shorts, bra straps, t-shirts with green slogans, pajama pants, all of your tats, flip flops and hair like you just got up. I like the relax work schedule environment but that doesn’t equate to dressing like you are at home.

Dressing nice for work even if you are not client facing instills a sense of pride and professionalism. Sadly software development has become the self-indulgent, rebelling against tradition generation. I call them “generation null”.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 9:15:13 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Moonman62
I remember back in the old days, discoveries of problems in MSFT software would cause the stock price to go up, because they believed in the saying, “never let a crisis go to waste.”


38 posted on 02/01/2013 9:19:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

It was down, but only affected logging into Outlook Web App according to the service status site.


39 posted on 02/01/2013 9:42:10 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: discostu

Exactly. I want some control over my software, and I want it on my own machinery for just this reason. I don’t want my office wiped out, without recourse or backup. And who would trust Mister Bill Gates, anyway?


40 posted on 02/01/2013 9:51:20 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Moonman62

You, sir, are very witty!


41 posted on 02/01/2013 9:56:00 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I can’t think of a single advantage to using “the cloud”.

Same here, I'll never use it. I want my applications and files on my computer, not out in cyberland.

42 posted on 02/02/2013 4:53:53 PM PST by ducttape45
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