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How realistic should school shooting drills be?
Associalted Press ^ | January 31, 2012 | Carolyn Thompson

Posted on 02/01/2013 10:31:02 AM PST by opentalk

"I want to see my kids! Bang! Bang!" the man shouted as he stormed into the front office of a South Carolina elementary school and pointed a handgun at a secretary and custodian. Both went limp at the verbal gunshots, and the "shooter," a police officer taking part in a school safety drill, continued his rampage. ... All fell to the floor with bloody, fake wounds.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; children; guncontrol; il; schoolsafety; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/01/2013 10:31:06 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
This is getting ridiculous. The chances of dying in an accident on the way to school are probably greater than dying in a school shooting.
2 posted on 02/01/2013 10:33:51 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: opentalk

“While shocking and senseless shootings give the impression of dramatic increases in school-related violence, national surveys consistently find that school-associated homicides have stayed essentially stable or even decreased slightly over time. “

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/youthviolence/schoolviolence/data_stats.html


3 posted on 02/01/2013 10:35:52 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: opentalk
Looks like these guys own the market on reality:

http://crisisactors.org/

4 posted on 02/01/2013 10:41:45 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: opentalk

The chances of any particular K-12 school in the United States experiencing a shooting incident in any given year is approximately 1 in 53,925.

The chances of a school shooting taking place in a US high school in any given year: 1 in 21,000.

The chances of a school shooting taking place in a US elementary or middle school in any given year: 1 in 141,463.

The chances of dying in a car crash in 2013 is approximately 1 in 7775.

http://www.psychlawjournal.com/2012/12/school-shootings-what-are-odds.html


5 posted on 02/01/2013 10:43:42 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: opentalk

I think they should use live ammo in the school drills but make sure the person playing the “crazed shooter” just sprays everything at least six inches over everyone’s heads.


6 posted on 02/01/2013 10:50:33 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: dynoman

Man, it looks like I’m more likely to be killed in a school shooting than I am to eat a big mac, and I don’t even go to school!


7 posted on 02/01/2013 10:53:58 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: opentalk

Until these jackoffs realize a “lockdown” is the opposite response to a shooter inside the building, your children will be sheep waiting for the slaughter.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 10:55:51 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: dynoman
Focusing on these drills as a community may not be increasing security, psychologically harmful.

Newtown...By grim coincidence, even as the terrible events were unfolding in Newtown on Friday morning, the Putnam County Emergency Response Team (“ERT”) happened to be assembled for regular training in Carmel, and team members were at that very moment engaged in a mock scenario of an active-shooter in a school.

Oregon Mall shooting

...The Clackamas Sheriff said the shooting could have been much worse. There were 7,000 customers and 2,000 employees inside the mall... Stores and police followed training from a shooting drill at the mall earlier this year

Aurora

Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine was holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 medical students.... one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack

9 posted on 02/01/2013 10:55:51 AM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Fifty years ago they had schoolkids hiding under plywood desks as protection from the threat of thermonuclear bombs.

Today the threat of schoolkids being shot by a crazy person has to be several million times greater than being vaporized by a nuclear weapon was back then.

And the potential for avoidance training having some positive effect in the event of a shooting, tornado, or other danger is infinitely greater.

So why not make an effort to teach vulnerable children how to take some simple but realistic action to help reduce the odds of being injured, wounded or killed?

It can’t hurt and it might plant the seed of awareness and inculcate a sense of self responsibility when they are exposed to the concept that a person can do something more than cry and cringe when faced with adversity or danger.


10 posted on 02/01/2013 11:00:47 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: dynoman

In my high school, the shooting drills were fairly realistic. The ROTC shooting team would lay down in the space between the buildings with our 1903A3 MILITARY BATTLE RIFLES, and practice our target acquisition and hold with our spotter.

Never had a problem


11 posted on 02/01/2013 11:07:26 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: opentalk

Stupid. Then the a$$whole$ on the left say that having armed police officers will scare the kids.

Back in the 50’s, schoolkids were told to dive under the desks in case of a bomb alert. We all knew it was to scare us into thinking that the Russians would drop an atomic bomb any minute.

All so we would come to accept big government as the great protector.


12 posted on 02/01/2013 11:49:57 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: I want the USA back
Stupid. Then the a$$whole$ on the left say that having armed police officers will scare the kids

good point-

Chicago School to Use Real Gunfire/blanks in Student Crisis Drills

....About half the parents who have contacted the school are concerned that students will find the gunfire too emotionally upsetting

13 posted on 02/01/2013 12:00:48 PM PST by opentalk
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Over the intercom in a school in Arizona:

“This is your principal speaking. In about 10 minutes, a man wearing full body armor is going to simulate, PRETEND, to be a gunman attacking the school. Students and faculty who have guns on them are asked not to shoot him. Teachers, please insure that your students do not shoot him. Students, if your teacher isn’t paying attention, remind him that this is just PRETEND, so he or she shouldn’t shoot the guy in body armor screaming that he has a gun. Mr. Jones, the security guard, is in the parking lot, and will ask any tardy students to NOT shoot him as well.

“Let’s try not to have a repeat of last year because it took the janitor all summer to patch all the bullet holes.”


14 posted on 02/01/2013 1:06:21 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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