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NBC: Chicago Gun Restrictions Ineffective Because of Gun Rights Elsewhere
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Posted on 02/01/2013 6:02:23 PM PST by chessplayer

In a report at the top of Thursday's NBC Nightly News, correspondent Kevin Tibbles fretted that "Despite bylaws that prohibit gun shops within city limits...Chicago appears to be awash in guns." A sentiment that echoed ABC World News anchor Diane Sawyer, who on Wednesday announced to viewers that the whole nation was "awash in guns."

The declaration from Tibbles teed up gun control advocate and UCLA law professor Adam Winkler to claim that problem with Chicago's gun restrictions was that they were not universal: "Chicago certainly has strict gun control laws. But the difficulty is that outlying areas outside of Chicago and in other states, neighboring Illinois, don't have strict gun control laws, and the guns easily flow into Chicago because of that."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/01/2013 6:02:30 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Because in fairy world, there are no guns and no one ever gets hurt, ever. This is fairy world, right?


2 posted on 02/01/2013 6:05:15 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: chessplayer
Looks like there's only one option left if Chicago wants to protect itself.

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3 posted on 02/01/2013 6:07:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chessplayer

You would think NBC would finally be embarrassed after being caught lying so many times. But no.


4 posted on 02/01/2013 6:07:26 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: chessplayer

Maybe they should ask their president what he knows about guns being walked to gangs in Chicago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2773978/posts


5 posted on 02/01/2013 6:09:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chessplayer

So, let me understand the argument. Chicago’s strict gun laws don’t work for the reason that criminals don’t abide by them, and acquire guns in other places to bring into Chicago. Thus, they knowingly violate the law. Is this the argument?

So, logically, this means that America must be entirely disarmed from sea to shining sea. And then, when guns are smuggled across our borders because the lawful are willing to pay for them, the solution will be what?

How progressive can be so stupid and oblivious to human nature is truly a wonder.

The only real solution will then be a global government which has made illegal the possession of firearms to everyone ... except of course to itself. When that happens everything will be wonderful, right? Right?


6 posted on 02/01/2013 6:10:04 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: chessplayer
And yet, these places, places where guns spring up from the ground like precious water, are serene paradise wonderlands in comparison.

What's the difference? It CAN'T be the people, can it?

7 posted on 02/01/2013 6:11:03 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: chessplayer

LOL,

Commie Pigs NEVER deviate from the PARTY line.

Stalin complained vehemently that communism was failing in the Soviet Socialist Republic, BECAUSE ALL THE SURROUNDING STATES PRACTICED CAPITALISM!

Once we get all those surrounding capitalist pigs to become good communists, THEN AND ONLY THEN will Marxism succeed.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 6:13:06 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: chessplayer
My neighborhood is awash in guns. If I had to guess, on my street alone, the average number of guns per household is over eight and there are no large families. We also have no crime.

I wonder why we are so different than Chicago.

The reason is obvious to me. The folks in my neighborhood are law abiding Americans. They speak the American language. They go to work everyday. And except for the one liberal at the end of the street they do not want any help from government other than building roads, prisons and maintaining a strong military.

9 posted on 02/01/2013 6:13:30 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: chessplayer
The obvious answer is for Baraq and Rhambo to deputize the Million Moms for Gun Control and send them into Chicago next summer to round up all the illegal guns.


10 posted on 02/01/2013 6:13:50 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: chessplayer

The big and obvious question is, “If honest citizens in Chicago had the right to own guns, and use them for self defense, how quickly would it end the killing rampage?”

Seriously, nowhere in the country where there is gun freedom is there anything like the insanity in Chicago. So it raises the question: are people in Chicago defective, or just defenseless?

Their elected leaders assume they are defective. Incapable of having their God-given rights. That they can only be controlled by an armed police, but they are too irresponsible to protect themselves. So it is better that the people of Chicago live in fear as the prey of criminals.

If their own leaders think they are defective, then the rest of us should assume that maybe their leaders are correct, and that there is something about Chicago that makes people behave like animals.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 6:20:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: nascarnation

One Million Moms look more like about 100 PMSed Troglodytes.


12 posted on 02/01/2013 6:20:53 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: nascarnation

All these sandwiches that will never be made...


13 posted on 02/01/2013 6:23:54 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: chessplayer

It is illegal all across the country to distribute cocaine.
Does that mean there is no cocaine in Chicago?


14 posted on 02/01/2013 6:24:58 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

It’s a media numbers thing.

3 yrs after 9/11 there were an additional 4 million jobs and the media called it a “jobless recovery”.

3 yrs after the 08 meltdown there were 7 million LESS jobs and the media call it the “new normal”.


15 posted on 02/01/2013 6:26:17 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Cocaine is medicinal.

You are not sensitive.


16 posted on 02/01/2013 6:32:33 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: chessplayer

5th grade Chicago math wizard proves a statistical correlation between “Chicago being awash in guns” to “Chicago being awash in politicians and criminals”.


17 posted on 02/01/2013 6:33:51 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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To: chessplayer
"announced to viewers that the whole nation was 'awash in guns.' "

But unlike Chicago, the whole nation isn't awash in lawlessness and a lack of respect for human life.
18 posted on 02/01/2013 6:35:29 PM PST by indthkr
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To: nascarnation

Oh Jeez, you done gone and jogged the ol memory machine.

You get the “Nail On Head” award for that one.

People like you are the salvation from the “low info” voters and the bane of little Joey Goebbels worldwide.

LOL, watch yer back my friend.

Thanks for the post.


19 posted on 02/01/2013 6:40:24 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: chessplayer

Then why is crime higher where the guns are easier to get?

No matter where they come from, if gun availability is the cause of crime, then de facto, crime should be higher where guns are easier to come by.


20 posted on 02/01/2013 6:42:35 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: chessplayer

Hey, is dis kinda like de gubmin refusing to police our southern border gainst dem illegals comin in frum Mexico? But dey wants to police de chitown borders from de rest of Illinois and Indiana from guns? Is dat be right? Mebe dey kin mek dat work. But, me be nots, cuz guns don’t vote.


21 posted on 02/01/2013 6:46:28 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: who knows what evil?

LMAO.


22 posted on 02/01/2013 6:49:34 PM PST by CommieCutter
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To: chessplayer

At least when some of Holders people come to my nearby mini-metropolis and get caught with coke and guns, we have a judge that hands down 30 year sentences like candy


23 posted on 02/01/2013 6:50:11 PM PST by digger48
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To: chessplayer

So why aren’t the places where Chicago’s guns come from as bad as Chicago?


24 posted on 02/01/2013 6:51:32 PM PST by papertyger
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outlying areas outside of Chicago and in other states, neighboring Illinois, don't have strict gun control laws, and the guns easily flow into Chicago because of that.

Build a wall, don't let any evil guns in.

25 posted on 02/01/2013 6:51:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: chessplayer

Maybe the surrounding communities sell guns to protect themselves from the citizens of Chicago.


26 posted on 02/01/2013 6:52:33 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: chessplayer

Kinda like the gun restrictions in Mexico are ineffective because the ATF is illegally running guns across the border?


27 posted on 02/01/2013 6:55:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: chessplayer
The only word that I can think of is, "convoluted."

5.56mm

28 posted on 02/01/2013 6:56:14 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Belteshazzar
So, let me understand the argument. Chicago’s strict gun laws don’t work for the reason that criminals don’t abide by them, and acquire guns in other places to bring into Chicago. Thus, they knowingly violate the law. Is this the argument?

Yes, that is the ignorant argument.

29 posted on 02/01/2013 6:57:54 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: chessplayer

That’s amazing! Mexico has the same problem.

Guess what top two nation states supply them?

It ain’t the USA


30 posted on 02/01/2013 6:59:40 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“I wonder why we are so different than Chicago”

My guess is that you are not surrounded by inner city black and Hispanic gang bangers and gansta rapper wannabes.


31 posted on 02/01/2013 7:04:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: chessplayer
Chicago Gun Restrictions Ineffective Because of Gun Rights Elsewhere

TRANSLATION:

Chicago Gun Restrictions Ineffective Because Freedom Still Exists Elsewhere


32 posted on 02/01/2013 7:10:14 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Belteshazzar

No, his argument is that utopia is hampered by too much freedom.


33 posted on 02/01/2013 7:11:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

The obvious answer is for Baraq and Rhambo to deputize the Million Moms for Gun Control and send them into Chicago next summer to round up all the illegal guns

Thats a great idea, after that they can go on a national tour and clean up all the bad places.


34 posted on 02/01/2013 7:13:24 PM PST by Mr Murphy
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To: Blood of Tyrants
No, his argument is that utopia is hampered by too much freedom.

.......elsewhere.
35 posted on 02/01/2013 7:15:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chessplayer

NBC

             

36 posted on 02/01/2013 7:23:13 PM PST by tomkat ( .. shall NOT be infringed)
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To: Repeal The 17th

It is illegal all across the country to distribute cocaine.
Does that mean there is no cocaine in Chicago?


By their reasoning, it must be cocaine free. No drugs whatsoever in Chicago. Not even pot.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 7:27:45 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I have a condo on s. south shore drive, (facing east, all water views) I been trying to sell for 2 years. I can’t give the place away. It’s right next to where Obama held his wedding reception. (South shore center, very rough south side Obama hood)

If anybody interested in a Chicago condo let me know great views!
(Yeah I know, no takers just thought I’d throw it out there)


38 posted on 02/01/2013 7:30:06 PM PST by tangchung
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To: chessplayer

Ah, it’s nice to have a bit of diversity, isn’t it? You know, embracing other cultures and ways of life, and tolerating them and whatnot. Sure, people can’t buy guns here in Chicago, but they can right across that highway, or over there, or on the other side of the river. Isn’t it just wonderful that we can accept those other jurisdictions as they are without wanting to impose our own morals upon them? Because, after all, can we be really sure what right and wrong really is?


39 posted on 02/01/2013 7:32:28 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: chessplayer

Chicago is awash in neo-Nazis and their 50 IQ savage spawn. Diane Sawyer is the fascist honeypot where Rahm dips his beak. And the UCLA professor is a sewer pipe for everything flushed down the Chicago toilet.


40 posted on 02/01/2013 7:33:23 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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41 posted on 02/01/2013 7:43:42 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
My guess is that you are not surrounded by inner city black and Hispanic gang bangers and gansta rapper wannabes.

Yes, I guess that is correct. We are white.

42 posted on 02/01/2013 7:56:30 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: chessplayer
Sooooo the murder rate in Wisconsin, Indiana, Missouri, Kentucky and Iowa are ALL as high as Chicago?

And just where did MOST of the thousands of guns recovered in Chicago last year come from? IE; Where were they originally purchased? 1) Illinois. Huh? 2) Indiana. OK
3) Mississippi Mississippi????????

Thanks to Cam Edwards for this info.

43 posted on 02/01/2013 8:04:22 PM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I’m getting sick of the liberal Marxists who have been pushing gun control for 30 yrs or more. Perhaps congress should draft and pass a bill criminalizing any action by politicians and govt employees to infringe on our 2nd ammendment .this includes shills at every level (fed,state,county,local). It should be rated a felony with 2-5 yrs in prison. If the swine took an oath to defend our constitution, then perjury should be an additional charge. If their actions resulted in lowering the security of our citizens,then Treason should be considered.


44 posted on 02/01/2013 8:16:46 PM PST by Bravo six
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To: chessplayer
Chicago has a violence problem because criminals own the state.
45 posted on 02/01/2013 8:52:48 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: chessplayer

Bingo people, this will also apply at the national level. Create a nationwide ban and only the criminals will have it. There is absolutely no rational reason to believe whatever you ban will not still be available - to those with a disregard for the law.


46 posted on 02/01/2013 8:57:59 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Belteshazzar

Yes...you are correct...this explains why no one can get their hands on cocaine because it has been made illegal in all areas of the country ... the same goes for crack, but not for weed because it is still being snuck in from the legal pharmacies in California. Make sense?


47 posted on 02/01/2013 9:10:55 PM PST by willyd (Don't shoot, we're Republicans!)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

To #12: “How white of them”


48 posted on 02/02/2013 12:58:48 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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