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Chris Kyle, record-holding sniper as Navy SEAL, killed in double slaying at Erath County gun range
dallasnews ^ | 03 February 2013 | TASHA TSIAPERAS

Posted on 02/03/2013 5:30:27 AM PST by JoeProBono

Chris Kyle, a former Navy SEAL who was the U.S. military’s deadliest sharpshooter and wrote the best-selling book American Sniper, was fatally shot Saturday in a double slaying at an Erath County gun range, the U.S. Marshals Service said. Late Saturday, Lancaster police said they had arrested a man they say matched the description of a gunman wanted in the slayings.

After a brief chase, officers arrested 25-year-old Eddie Ray Routh, said Lt. Kelly Hooten, a department spokesman. Kyle was at a charity event at the gun range at Rough Creek Lodge and Resort on behalf of his Dallas-based security firm Craft International, said Hudson Hartson, a childhood friend of Kyle’s. Craft International often hosted law-enforcement training events at the location, which is near Glen Rose, about 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth. Investigators said that Routh, a former Marine who sources said is believed to suffer from post-traumatic stress syndrome, shot Kyle and the second victim at point-blank range.

No information was available on the second victim late Saturday. Erath County officials had issued an alert for authorities to be on the lookout for the gunman, who was believed to be armed and dangerous and driving a black Ford F-350 truck with large tires and rims. The suspect was believed to be highly trained with military experience.

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KEYWORDS: americansniper; banglist; bradleycooper; chriskyle; chriskylemurder; clinteastwood; warnerbros

1 posted on 02/03/2013 5:30:35 AM PST by JoeProBono
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Eddie Routh


2 posted on 02/03/2013 5:33:09 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Trophy killing? Most lethal sniper in the History of the US and a famous SEAL, at that.


3 posted on 02/03/2013 5:38:20 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like a driver’s license photo. Troubling eyes.

Here’s another photo that was posted on the original thread yesterday...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2984764/posts?page=140#140


4 posted on 02/03/2013 5:39:59 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: submarinerswife
RIP, brave American warrior. What I say next should not be taken as a joke or disrespectful:

He forgot the (other) Golden Rule, Be professional and courteous with everyone you meet and have a plan to kill them, if necessary.

5 posted on 02/03/2013 5:44:19 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: JoeProBono

Registered democrate, might he be?


6 posted on 02/03/2013 5:55:45 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: JoeProBono

It is time for public hangings to return.


7 posted on 02/03/2013 6:07:09 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Feckless

Saw one report that they were both shot in the back. Another that the neighbor guy was shot 1st and Kyle went to help him.

Certainly doesn’t seem they were cautious enough when they decided to hand a gun to a guy who has PTSD.


8 posted on 02/03/2013 6:07:21 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: JoeProBono
Ecclesiastes 9:11 I again saw under the sun that the race is not to the swift, and the battle is not to the warriors, and neither is bread to the wise, nor wealth to the discerning, nor favor to men of ability; for time and chance overtake them all.
9 posted on 02/03/2013 6:16:56 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: JoeProBono
Other threads if anyone is interested in the comments there on:

Author of "American Sniper" among the dead at Rough Creek (CHRIS KYLE MURDERED!)

Former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle Killed at Shooting Range; Suspect Arrested

Chris Kyle, Another Brother Lost

Renowned Navy SEAL Sniper Shot Dead At Texas Gun Range

10 posted on 02/03/2013 6:22:52 AM PST by deport
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To: JoeProBono

Kyle has a large bounty on his head form several groups I suspect. I suspected ROP at first.


11 posted on 02/03/2013 6:27:00 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: deport

snip

In all, he was awarded two Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars with Valor and two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medals.

“I don’t care about the medals,” Kyle told the Star-Telegram in a 2012 interview. “I didn’t do it for the money or the awards. I did it because I felt like it was something that needed to be done and it was honorable. I loved the guys.”

A member of SEAL Team 3, Kyle picked off his targets from rooftops or windows of abandoned buildings during the 2003 war against Iraq, which toppled the Saddam Hussein regime. Primarily serving as a sniper and wounded twice, he provided “overwatch” protection for Marines and other U.S. troops and earned a reputation for his proficiency.

Most shots ranged from 200 to 1,200 yards. His longest, most remarkable kill — from 1.2 miles away — took out an insurgent aiming a rocket launcher at an approaching Army convoy.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02/02/4595767/top-navy-seal-sniper-killed-on.html#storylink=cpy


12 posted on 02/03/2013 6:31:47 AM PST by deport
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To: JoeProBono

Ease up on those hammers. The great odds are that this is a real PTSD mental illness deal.

I suspect the shooter went “temporarily insane”, shot the two men, and fled in his pickup. According to the stories, he offered no resistance to the police. He may or may not have even realized what he did. Just thought he was pulled over for some traffic violation.

To start with, he needs to have his head candled by a very competent psychiatrist, if for no other reason than to find out “how bad is ‘bad’?” This will not be easy, because often after a blow up like this the person will revert to normal behavior, even more normal than usual. But it is just a mask.

He has likely been such a severe case that he is showing physical, not just psychological, symptoms.


13 posted on 02/03/2013 6:43:15 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What is happening in todays military?

The men who returned from WW2 did not have the problems these guys are having.

Was it because they were allowed to fight back and not hampered with Rules of Engagement?

They fought to win. Is that the problem> We have’t really fought to win since WW2.


14 posted on 02/03/2013 6:54:56 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

There were indeed people with PTSD after WW2. Many who were unable to function in society for years...even a few who snapped and killed people. I think the difference is that it wasn’t an “unpopular war” in people’s minds, so the media didn’t make a big deal out of it...and when veterans did snap and kill people it was treated as local news, without the if-it-bleeds-it-leads sensationalism we’ve been seeing since Vietnam.


15 posted on 02/03/2013 7:06:08 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: M1903A1

I suppose you are right.


16 posted on 02/03/2013 7:08:10 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
It has nothing to do with the ROE.

Back in the '30's when our WWII vets were being raised, Jesus Christ was taught at home and school. These boys grew into men having a strong relationship with their Savior. When confronting evil, they had the power of The Spirit. So, the things they saw and had to do for their country could be coped with easier because they had The Great Comforter.

I personally don't believe in any mental illness. I think we let demons in by keeping God out. And since we as a nation, shun God, we see more of the works of the Prince of Lies.
17 posted on 02/03/2013 7:13:24 AM PST by ScoochDude
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To: Venturer
The men who returned from WW2 did not have the problems these guys are having.
BS. Every GI who goes into combat in any war gets PTSD to one degree or another. It's how they choose to deal with it (public and private) that makes the difference.
Quite frankly, I'm sick of hearing how tough the Iraq and Afghanistan vets have (or had) it. Many have hooches with AC, refrigerators, Internet access, satellite phones, three squares a day, etc.
No war is easy, but to say these vets had it worse than those who came before them, is just not true.
18 posted on 02/03/2013 8:10:10 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: JoeProBono





Welcome Home

19 posted on 02/03/2013 9:07:33 AM PST by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: oh8eleven
Read Steven Ambrose' book, Citizen Soldiers, about the troops that served from June 7th, 1944, until May of 1945 in the battles of France, Maginot line, Hurtgen Forest, Battle of the Bulge, Falaise Pocket, Remagen Bridge and others. There were entire units that were sent to the rear for battle fatigue where the men couldn't even function. The conditions and terror these men went through were horrific. These men suffered high rates of depression and battle fatigue and came home with significant PTSD except it wasn't called that then.
20 posted on 02/03/2013 9:27:20 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: The Mayor


21 posted on 02/03/2013 9:42:44 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Venturer

Actually, after WWII, the press put out lots of horror stories about returning veterans “who have been trained to rape and kill”. Seriously. The truth was that the vast majority had years of ‘chaste’ stored up.

In any event, the veterans as a group had some huge priorities. First they wanted a college education and a good job. Then somewhere in there they wanted to get married and have kids. The war was over, and there was no time to fret about being a civilian again.

At the time, a lot of universities were still gender segregated, and all mixed gender activities had to have a faculty chaperone. In many places students could not even own a car or live off campus.

The response of the veterans to this was “Hell no!”, and they changed these schools overnight, being particularly persuasive individuals.

(I heard one account of a Dean of Women at a prominent college, who was horrified at the prospect of veterans “raping” her “ladies”, who in truth were as desperate as the veterans to do “a little raping” themselves. Or maybe a whole lot of raping, and marriage, and kids.)

In any event, for years thereafter there was the occasional story of some veteran who went nuts, though I might add, at a statistically *lower* frequency than civilians as a whole.


22 posted on 02/03/2013 9:44:42 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: JoeProBono

Odd number of notable gun people starting to end up dead under odd circumstances.

For an honorable mention to that list, Massad Ayoob survived a fluke helicopter crash last week.


23 posted on 02/03/2013 9:49:09 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: ctdonath2


24 posted on 02/03/2013 9:57:39 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: vetvetdoug
My FIL was at the Hurtgen Forest; my father was a WWII Marine in the Pacific; I was a VN Marine up on the DMZ.
Between the three of us, we knew PTSD.
25 posted on 02/03/2013 10:01:00 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Didn’t Eleanor Roosevelt write a magazine article calling for returning vets to be placed on an island in the pacific for six months or so before coming home, so as to be able to assimilate back into society? She felt that the brutality of the war and what they had experienced made it unsafe for them to return too soon after the fighting ended.


26 posted on 02/03/2013 10:04:43 AM PST by Deadeye Division
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To: JoeProBono

The jackels are already out, they have no shame ,no honor, no respect.http://twitchy.com/2013/02/03/twisted-ghouls-descend-on-murder-victim-chris-kyle/


27 posted on 02/03/2013 10:04:50 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: JoeProBono

Ok, I am not one to buy into conspiracy theories, but this just stinks to high heaven. I am getting real worried about the many so called coincidentally timed shootings around America as of late.

I cannot be the only one who has been keeping my guns cleaned, ready and my powder dry.


28 posted on 02/03/2013 10:15:52 AM PST by Yellowstone Joe
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To: JoeProBono

RIP. Horrible to lose someone like this.

It’s not a conspiracy though. Everything that goes wrong nowadays does not equal conspiracy. There is evil in the world.


29 posted on 02/03/2013 7:45:31 PM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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