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Dems move to change federal pot laws
AdminPress ^ | Feb 4, 2013 | Salon

Posted on 02/05/2013 7:59:15 AM PST by Cheerio

Reps. Earl Blumenauer and Jared Polis to introduce bill Tuesday to end prohibition

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 113th; agenda; bho44; dems; obama; pot; potheads
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To: Cheerio

Note the feds want to tax it at 50 percent. As usual follow the money. The feds just want to regulate and get their grubby snouts in the middle of these transactions. Thats all this is. Why is there any tax at all if all they want to do is legalize?


41 posted on 02/05/2013 8:51:36 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Darren McCarty

As far as the feds go, they need to stay out of these areas and leave it for the states.


Frankly, that is what it boils down to for me as well.


42 posted on 02/05/2013 8:51:39 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Monty22002

Not to sure about those two drugs, because we did not have those in the sixties, yes we had double crossers and black beauties (speed), but they were “diet Pills” given to fat women for the most part, and basically just kept you wide awake for a long time. I will agree meth is a problem, but multiple amounts of lives are Destroyed Daily from the effects of ALCOHOL, there simply is no comparison if you were to actually look at it HONESTLY and without emotion.


43 posted on 02/05/2013 8:52:06 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: pfflier

years ago I had a friend who was a total pot head.If it was a workday and he had no pot he would not go to work.He also did not care about voting.Think about it.


44 posted on 02/05/2013 8:52:55 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: stuartcr

I’ve done every legal drug. Caffeine, booze, smoking, and so on. So of course if it were legal and in stores I’d have tried the other stuff. I have an ethical outlook on life that means if you have to go the drug dealer route, it’s wrong. If suddenly it’s at a store and advertised, I’d go for it at some point. Especially since you say it’s so ‘trivial’.


45 posted on 02/05/2013 8:53:14 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: plain talk

Yep, the feds outright want to be drug dealers, damn the consequences. DU and some on FR are the types that’ll cheer them on to the end too.


46 posted on 02/05/2013 8:55:27 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: Beelzebubba

We have 20,000,000 or more alcholics in this country...why not legalize POT and add another 10,000,000 pot heads like you see in Amsterdam and the Middle East? Legalize Cocaine too while you’re at it?


47 posted on 02/05/2013 8:56:25 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: philetus

Sounds like with or without drugs he was a loser. Which is usually how it works, people’s big “examples” of the horrors of drugs are actually just losers who gravitated towards one method but had that method not existed they’d have found something else.


48 posted on 02/05/2013 8:56:41 AM PST by discostu (I recommend a fifth of Jack and a bottle of Prozac)
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To: cuban leaf
But today, we are all paying for it. Its not enough to just legalize weed and go yippee, we're pushing back.

The whole system, the whole culture, the whole population is different than it was in 1900 when the stuff was unregulated. Its simplistic and shortsighted to think that merely legalizing weed will make a positive impact or be a good thing.

Much deeper thing need to change before I could sanction legalization of marijauna. When my 2nd amendment rights are no longer being infringed, when my 1st amendment rights are no longer being trampled, when queers are no longer pushing their crap on tiny children in schools, when 1/2 of the federal budget is no longer spent on welfare, when the single payer communist healthcare system is revoked, when our military is no longer a social experimentation playground for the libs, when my taxe are not sucking up 1/3+ of every buck I make, when borders are closed and the illegals sent back to where they came from, when Judeo-Christian values are not trampled and spat upon in the public square, THEN I'll care legalizing weed. Not before.

49 posted on 02/05/2013 8:58:02 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: eyeamok

I would also say that we compare the incidents vs use rate as well. Not just cut and dry numbers. How many meth users have problems or die vs alcohol. Of course alcohol is going to have the higher raw numbers by far, it’s legal and ubiquitous. We add more drugs to that list and the use rates will rise as well. Lots of the left legalizer countries in Europe are going to hell faster than the USA is at this point and are going to have a hard time reversing the downslide.


50 posted on 02/05/2013 8:58:02 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

if you have to go the drug dealer route, it’s wrong.”

How do you feel about prohibition?
People had to break the law to get a drink.
Alcohol is a drug.Alcohol is 2 molecules of ether.


51 posted on 02/05/2013 9:01:09 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Monty22002

Has any of it made you move back with your parents and give up?


52 posted on 02/05/2013 9:01:18 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: philetus

I remember when Morton Downey Jr way back was asked something like that. The guy said ‘How can you be a smoker and anti-drug’ and he answered ‘if they made it illegal I’d put it out in your eye!’


53 posted on 02/05/2013 9:02:31 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002; pfflier

Yeah 100 years of creeping socialism has had little effect on America. No major problems devaluing the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage huh?

No problems either with the democrat liberal wars?

The war on guns
The war on babies
The war on poverty
The war on marriage
The war on education
The war on conservatism
The war on small business
The war on defense spending

They just keep ramping it up on these

Democratic liberals progressives = the true warmongers


54 posted on 02/05/2013 9:03:33 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

So many people smoke it now that there would be little difference in consumption. What it would do is suddenly allow a huge portion of the population to see themselves as “not criminals”.

I was furious with the 55 MPH speed limit when it was instigated because it suddenly made most drivers lawbreakers. It means there was a subtle change in the attitudes about the police and government. The same thing happens with pot. Heck, tax it like alcohol, and use some of the money for public service ads like the ones about wearing seatbelts before the government made THAT a law, making many normal Americans “criminals”.

BTW, a friend of mine is a second level manager for Microsoft. I was at a large party at his house once and couldn’t find him. I finally found him behind a bush with a couple of work mates sharing a bong. He said he was LITERALLY tryint to hide it from me.

You and I are both are mindful of the law of unintended consequences. We’re just focusing on different ones.


55 posted on 02/05/2013 9:03:53 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: discostu

You mean, it’s the person, not the drug???!!!


56 posted on 02/05/2013 9:04:47 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: cuban leaf

Hey at least the guy had some shame, even though he’s a scumbag for still doing it.

Shoulda reported him for testing. I would. Screw em. Let someone with some morals have that job.


57 posted on 02/05/2013 9:06:00 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: BrandtMichaels

Whoops forgot the 1st liberal war - the war on tax - 16th amendment 1913. not properly ratified but at least some voted as opposed to the Federal Reserve which is neither.


58 posted on 02/05/2013 9:06:05 AM PST by BrandtMichaels
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To: cuban leaf
That says it all right there. Prohibition was such a bad ammendment that it was repealed.

Prohibition permitted possession and consumption. It also allowed low alcohol beer and the prescribing of alcohol as medicine. The enforcement law also included loopholes.

59 posted on 02/05/2013 9:10:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: discostu

I haven’t seen him in years. What I have heard is that he is so obese now that he would have a heart attack just getting off the couch.We should all be supporting legalizing pot.


60 posted on 02/05/2013 9:24:05 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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