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To: this_ol_patriot; DMZFrank; DUMBGRUNT
What is the fuss here? Israel has had frontline women soldiers in the IDF for years.

That's not true. That only happened in 1948.

'Equality' on the Battlefield

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The experience of the Israelis, a democratic nation that has deployed women to combat zones, is instructive. Phyllis Chesler reported in a symposium on Islamic Terror and Sexual Mutilation:

"Soon after the establishment of the IDF, the removal of all women from front-line positions was decreed. Decisive for this decision was the very real possibility of falling into enemy hands as prisoners of war. It was fair and equitable, it was argued, to demand from women equal sacrifice and risk; but the risk for women prisoners of rape and sexual molestation was infinitely greater than the same risk for men."

During the same symposium, Dr. David Gutman said:

"During the Israeli War of Independence Jewish fighters, including female soldiers captured by Arab irregulars, were routinely tortured and mutilated in the most obscene ways (by contrast, water-boarding would have furnished a pleasant interlude), and IDF officers warned their troops against being taken alive."

John Luddy of the Heritage Foundation cites the demoralizing effects on unit cohesion, another vital consideration. Male soldiers who saw their fellow women soldiers mutilated in obscene ways were devastated. Luddy writes:

"For example, it is a common misperception that Israel allows women in combat units. In fact women have been barred from combat in Israel since 1950, when a review of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War showed how harmful their presence could be. The study revealed that men tried to protect and assist women rather than continue their attack. As a result, they not only put their own lives in greater danger, but also jeopardized the survival of the entire unit. The study further revealed that unit morale was damaged when men saw women killed and maimed on the battlefield."

23 posted on 02/07/2013 10:20:22 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
That's only special forces and commando operations, look up Nachshol Reconnaissance Company or Caracal Battalion, about 4% of the IDF combat units are women.

I'm not saying that the US needs to follow this model, Israel of course is vastly out-numbered by the Arabs and needs all the personnel they can muster.

24 posted on 02/07/2013 10:37:42 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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