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Bruce Willis: Don't infringe on Second Amendment
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Posted on 02/06/2013 7:06:34 AM PST by Perdogg

Bruce Willis says he's against new gun control laws that could infringe on Second Amendment rights. The "Die Hard" star also dismisses any link between Hollywood shootouts and real-life gun violence.

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1 posted on 02/06/2013 7:06:37 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: kronos77; mass55th; Perdogg; DollyCali; EveningStar; Borges; Mr. K; Blondie; altura; mylife; ...

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2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:08:15 AM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: Perdogg

Good for Bruce. It’s about time someone from Hollyweird stood up for the Second Amendment, and didn’t descend into the anti-gun hysteria.


3 posted on 02/06/2013 7:10:55 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Perdogg

Good man.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:10:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Perdogg

FINALLY! One guy in Hollywood with common sense who understands the bigger picture and has some common sense. Now if we could get a lot more to jump on board that are real men. Liam Neeson next maybe?


5 posted on 02/06/2013 7:12:38 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Perdogg

“...also dismisses any link between Hollywood shootouts and real-life gun violence.”

...Bravo! Jimmy Cagney had “shootouts” all the time in the 30’s and there weren’t any mass shootings in theatres that I know of. Prescription drugs and bad parenting are most of the problem.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 7:14:11 AM PST by albie
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To: Perdogg

Well, there goes Bruce’s career!

Holywood socialists don’t take too kindly to anyone with conservatives views.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 7:14:38 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Perdogg

Of course he does after Stallone’s movie flopped big-time last weekend after Stallone called for an assault weapons ban. Willis isn’t stupid with a new Die Hard movie coming out soon.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 7:15:37 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: albie

My parents had some control over what I watched when I was a kid.

Today we have subjective reality being taught in the schools, parents who barely know their children, and as you said the drugs.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 7:16:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Perdogg

Thank goodness at least one “hollywood action hero” has some real cojones! I always liked Bruce Willis, now even more so.

He’s got the courage to not embrace the loony left (the money folks on the Left Coast) just to keep his fan base and future movie audiences.

Are any of those cowardly action heroes also against fast cars now because they might inspire us to drive faster? And couldn’t those fast cars be involved in accidents that kill people? No, they haven’t come out yet to do that. They’re just making sure to “cover their own sixes” so they are politically correct.

To quote the crazed Marine colonel (Jack Nicholson): “they can’t handle the truth!”


10 posted on 02/06/2013 7:26:52 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Perdogg

He must have a movie coming out


11 posted on 02/06/2013 7:30:30 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: albie

Similar to the controversy over some heavy metal music in the 80’s that allegedly triggered suicides among some adolescents. (eg, Suicide Solution) Dennis Miller put this in perspective when he said if some kid kills himself after listening to a song, it’s a safe bet he’s had serious psych and emotional problems long before he’s ever heard of Ozzie Osborne. But it still is hypocritical to see Mr. Willis’ colleagues calling for gun bans and then brandish guns, even if they’re fake, in their movies.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 7:31:53 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Perdogg
It's about time Clint Eastwood rallied his conservative buddies that he talked about at the GOP convention and kick some Hollywood Libtard weenie tucus.
Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis, Tom Selleck, ...
Time to set the record straight.

13 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:28 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Perdogg
Good to hear someone in Hollywood who isn't addicted to the hypocritical anti-gun Kool-Aid. Maybe personal financial interest had something to do with it, maybe not. Bruce made similar statements back in the 90's during the first 'Assault Weapons' ban.

Can't agree with him about the 'movies not providing an influence', though. This form of mass-media drives much of our culture, good and bad. You would have to be deliberately blind not to see it.

14 posted on 02/06/2013 7:46:11 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: jimbo123

Arnold bombed one week, then Sly. Hopefully Bruce will have better luck.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 7:58:36 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Perdogg
The guy that saw the Batman movie before killing indicates that movies DO influence behavior.

Of course they do. Also books, music, all ideas that go into your head influence thought patterns and, thus, behavior.

But censorship is not the answer. Changing hearts is. If consumers want healthy media they will turn off the raunchy stuff. That's not happening...yet.

16 posted on 02/06/2013 8:02:47 AM PST by what's up
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To: Perdogg

I will make it a point to see Bruce’s his next movie. Happily, Stallone opened his mouth before I wasted any money on his latest.


17 posted on 02/06/2013 8:14:13 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Perdogg

Now that’s something you don’t see every day. An actor who is actually smart enough to protect his career by not alienating his fans with liberal talking points. I predict that his newest Die Hard movie will be a smash hit because of his statement. Very clever marketing, dude.


18 posted on 02/06/2013 8:21:32 AM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Joe Brower

>Can’t agree with him about the ‘movies not providing an influence’, though. This form of mass-media drives much of our culture, good and bad. You would have to be deliberately blind not to see it.

I grew up with an overdose of on-screen violence via Tom & Jerry, Bugs Bunny, and a slew of Western movie shootouts. I don’t have the slightest inclination to go kill random people in real life.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 8:43:04 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Perdogg

Bruce knows how to get butts in the movie seats.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 8:44:19 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Perdogg; All

Money quote:

“I think that you can’t start to pick apart anything out of the Bill of Rights without thinking that it’s all going to become undone... If you take one out or change one law, then why wouldn’t they take all your rights away from you?”

Gets right to the point. Well said.


21 posted on 02/06/2013 8:49:17 AM PST by quesney (e)
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To: fatnotlazy

Bruce Willis has been openly conservative for a number of years now.


22 posted on 02/06/2013 8:55:15 AM PST by Borges
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To: mquinn
So did I. False comparison. The violence between Bugs Bunny and "Saw V" is akin to a candle vs. a bonfire. Like so many other things, it is a matter of degree, and present day is off the scale. And in those older days, there were also a preponderance of good examples, something sorely lacking now.

Add to that how you only need one psycho to make the headlines for the next year, until the next copycat is inspired. But that's another, although related, subject.

23 posted on 02/06/2013 9:01:53 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Enterprise

I COULDN’T AGREE MORE!! No one was happier than me when the Expendables movies came out as all my favorites were together for the first time (Willis, Stallone and Schwarzenneger). I came to peace with Arnold’s leftism the last few years but I’ve certainly been a little leery of Stallone as a few years back when he was promoting the last Rocky movie he supported amnesty for illegal immigrants.
Now his latest “there’s no need for legal assault weapons” statement is even more disconcerting.

He certainly isn’t a flaming liberal (especially usually his films) but he’s probably not really a conservative either.
Everything I’ve seen of Willis shows a very solid at worst libertarian foundation but certainly not any leftist core.


24 posted on 02/06/2013 9:02:07 AM PST by ctpsb (Thanks.)
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To: jsanders2001

Stallone , Arnold, Jason stratham, that chinese guy forget his name, Mel Gibson, that guy who plays person of interest, etc all need to come out as they seem to be the nly men left in Hollywood, the others are a bunch of fairies who would be more than happy to play feces, anal sex fairies.


25 posted on 02/06/2013 9:03:37 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: albie

BAD PARENTING, what kind of parent lets her boy dress liek a girl, what kind of parent lets their kids do what ever they want, etc etc etc

Seriously I have seen it every day and heard it off my kids friends how their parents are never there and let them do what ever they want.

I need to get a bumper sticker saying how be mature and responsible , pay and be there for your kids, or if anyone has a better idea along those lines


26 posted on 02/06/2013 9:06:22 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Perdogg

So there ARE some people in Hollywood who have common sense:

“I think that you can’t start to pick apart anything out of the Bill of Rights without thinking that it’s all going to become undone, if you take one out or change one law, then why wouldn’t they take all your rights away from you? It’s a difficult thing and I really feel bad for those families,” he said. “I’m a father and it’s just a tragedy. But I don’t know how you legislate insanity. I don’t know what you do about it. I don’t even know how you begin to stop that.”


27 posted on 02/06/2013 9:06:35 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: mquinn

Lots of Germans read Nietzsche and listened to Wagner without dedicating their lives to becoming Chancellor and burning Jews in mass ovens. Does that mean they had no influence?


28 posted on 02/06/2013 9:06:47 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: jimbo123
"...after Stallone called for an assault weapons ban...."

This, coming an actor who made millions running around with automatic weapons, shooting everything that moved.

And by the way, "Sly" Stallone...they're NOT "assault rifles" anymore - they're now only to be called Personal Defense Rifles (PDRs).

Department of Homeland Security SAYS so, per their purchase of 7000 AR15 PDRs.

29 posted on 02/06/2013 9:07:02 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: mquinn
Here is the thing.
Advertising works. Why are we shocked that violent video games and films influence people?
30 posted on 02/06/2013 9:08:09 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Perdogg
America: Live Free or Die Hard
31 posted on 02/06/2013 9:13:44 AM PST by 444Flyer (Obama killed the Twinkie, but not the terrorists in Benghazi. What's wrong with this picture?)
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To: Sybeck1
Hopefully Bruce will have better luck.

Don't hold your breath.
32 posted on 02/06/2013 9:15:10 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-eyed killer of the deep.)
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To: Lucky9teen

If we were able to “Legislate Insanity”, there would be no Democrats.


33 posted on 02/06/2013 9:23:15 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: Joe Brower; Perdogg; mquinn

“...This form of mass-media drives much of our culture, good and bad. You would have to be deliberately blind not to see it. ...”

It may have an influence if/when there’s no parental influence to teach kids right versus wrong.

I grew up watching The Three Stooges, Abbott and Costello Bugs Bunny, Combat, The Rat Patrol, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, etc., and never once had the inclination to do the things which were portrayed there. My folks - both Mom and Dad - made sure that I knew right from wrong. Smacking either of my siblings with a sledgehammer ala Moe and Curly was just not ever an option (although, I have to admit, there were times when....well, never mind).

The problem then, it would seem to me, is not one of what is shown onscreen - but how it is assimilated by people who lack a moral baseline from their secularized parents.

A couple generations of people have grown up with the intentionally de-Christianized moral relativist education taught to them by liberal idiots, and now we have a substantial portion of the population that can’t distinguish basic right from wrong.

Case in point: 60 years ago, who would have ever thought it was OK, much less a “right” - to murder an unborn infant - a CHILD?? Yet we got Roe v Wade in the 1970s. And somehow, magically, after a few decades, it’s now accepted practice.

Society’s been nothing but sh*t downhill ever since then.

So yeah, there’s the pop culture influence that pushes ALL of the liberal insanity through the television.

When there’s a vacuum where a soul should be, be sure there will be something to fill that vacuum. And never be surprised at what that new occupant can and will do...it usually produces pretty horrific results.


34 posted on 02/06/2013 9:24:48 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Perdogg
What I really want to know is:
Where does Sean Penn weigh-in on this subject?
35 posted on 02/06/2013 9:40:28 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: jimbo123
Of course he does after Stallone’s movie flopped big-time last weekend after Stallone called for an assault weapons ban.

The movie would have flopped anyway......

I think his next movie will be called "Rambo - Medicare Madness"

36 posted on 02/06/2013 9:54:32 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Perdogg

Yep. Now will make a point to catch the new Die Hard.


37 posted on 02/06/2013 10:33:48 AM PST by mykroar ("I'm afraid I can't use a mule. I have several hundred up on Capitol Hill." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: OCCASparky

I doubt it’ll do that great, but it’ll probably be #1. Die Hard at least has a fan base as a series. Sly did alright with Rambo and the last Rocky movies. Arnold and Sly were both pretty dumb (if it was their choice) to release their movies in the dead zone of January/Feb.


38 posted on 02/06/2013 10:38:15 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: NFHale; OCCASparky; Perdogg

Time to execute this War on our 2nd Amendment Rights on our terms.

Please consider the following. Make call and send some e-mails.... Make industry and the NRA work for us!

Gun Control; Time to Fight

As consumers and 2nd Amendment advocates, we have to engage an economic boycott of all ammunition and firearms covering the entire State of NY; Citizens & Government while pulling an “Alinsky” Andrew Cuomo when executing the boycott. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules for Radicals)

The embargo ends when the current NY Government agrees all NY State Citizens have a 2nd Amendment Right to own any quantity and all types firearms, those made 400 years ago and those to be made in the future!

How

The firearms industry from top to bottom completely terminate sales of a firearms and ammunition to all of NY State, citizens to Government to include the Federal Government offices in NY State till the State of NY recognizes the US Constitution and its own State Constitution starting on 12 February 2013.

To the Citizens aka Serfs in NY State

You will suffer till you elect representatives that respect the Constitutions. You made your bed, now go lie down in it! If you are a gun owner in NY you are a Serf, and it sucks to be you. If you are a believer
in Gun Control, great! Now your Government will have no guns too! NY Government can continue to prosecute the criminals without guns or ammunition.

To all Government in NY State

You want gun control for your Citizens and Taxpayers? Well the rest of us out here think that concept is flawed. The rest of the Country think you, the Government should be just as restricted or more so restricted than the law abiding taxpayer…….how do you like not having “Assault Rifles”, High Capacity Magazines or no Ammunition now? If it sucks for you Mr & Mrs. Government Employee in NY State……well it sucks to a NY State Citizen under the current laws too!

Respect your citizens/ taxpayer and Constitutions.

To Industry: Time to break the bully’s’ face

Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren will be running on the 2016 Democrat Presidential ticket. With record sales in other markets, there will be zero impact if all NY sales terminated tomorrow. If the NY State Government along with the SAFE act are not reigned in, this cancer will only spread. Time to fight the bully and make the bully understand in no uncertain terms, the 2nd Amendment is very important, has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with citizens/sovereigns reigning in and eliminating out of control Government, foreign or Domestic.

To the Citizens of the “other 56” States

Call every manufacturer of ammunition and firearms and tell them to stand up to Andrew Cuomo and the NY State Government by completely boycotting all sales to NY State till the SAFE Act, Assault weapons ban and any other restrictions to firearms ownership are removed. Respect the 2nd Amendment or pay the consequences. Boycott NY State or we as consumers will boycott your company!

Federal Ammunition, Winchester/OLIN, FN USA, FN Herstal, Remington, Freedom Firearms Group, Colt, S&W, Glock, Lewis Machine Tool, Heckler & Koch, Sig-Sauer… etc.

Call the NRA and every other gun rights organization to support the industry boycott of NY State and make sure that Andrew Cuomo owns it!

Contact them all and tell them you support a NY State Firearms and Ammunition Boycott!

Andrew Cuomo

Mr. Cuomo owns this. Every Answer, every utterance about this initiative is his. This will end his chances for President in 2016.

When NY State Government Officials complain: ANSWER Call Andy…. When NYC Police Commissioner
Ray Kelly and NYC Mayor Bloomberg whines… ANSWER: Call ANDY! When the UN security teams in
NYC complain….. answer Andrew Cuomo…..When hunters in NY complain: ANSWER: Andrew Cuomo….. when non gun owners fear the “cops” will not be armed: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo. When any NY State Citizen comments, complains, or utters any thought about their safety: ANSWER Andrew Cuomo.

If it drags on and a NY Citizen or Police Officer is killed due to no training ammunition the answer is: Andrew Cuomo

When the news media runs a story explaining the criminals gangs think this boycott is great cuz the Po
Po ain’t gots noz bullets…. The answer is Andrew Cuomo

Andrew Cuomo is your fear, Andrew Cuomo is your pain, and Andrew Cuomo is your lack of security…..your lack of ammunition and firearms.. Governor Cuomo can heal that pain….

When Mr. Cuomo buckles: the left will hate him. The Left will punish him

NO negotiations, NO middle of the road,
Nothing but recognition of the Individual Taxpayers Rights to Firearms Ownership

When NY State Government recognizes the Rights of the Citizens, then and only then will sales resume

MAKE EVERY Gun Grabbing Democrat or Republican politician fear being “Coumo’d” by Taxpayers that believe in the Second Amendment.

The Common Sense Solution is already in place: Current NY State Constitution ARTICLE XII*
DEFENSE
[Defense; militia]
Section 1. The defense and protection of the state and of the United
States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature
shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized.

For clarity and intent here is the original language from 1777

XL. And whereas it is of the utmost importance to the safety of every State that it should always be in a condition of defence; and it is the duty of every man who enjoys the protection of society to be prepared and willing to defend it; this convention therefore, in the name and by the authority of the good people of this State, doth ordain, determine, and declare that the militia of this State, at all times hereafter, as well in peace as in war, shall be armed and disciplined, and in readiness for service.

(just a small observation: As read, the citizens of NY State should be fully armed “the duty of every man” , not the NY State Government or any Employee that takes a pay check from TAX REVENUE. Right now, it is completely backwards! NY State should be more like Switzerland of 2012 and less like Nazi Germany of 1938.)

And

US Constitution 2nd Amendment, which by the way is now in been affirmed as incorporated and defined to protect the individual’s right to own firearms, via the Heller decision

If a citizen and Militia member in NY cannot own it, can neither a NY State Government Agency nor
Employee. That is common sense and that is the current Constitution!

Make Mr. Cuomo recognize that fact. See the rules below and start making Andy Cuomo’s political life painful or we will be dealing with him and his venal ilk in 2016!

Addendum:

The rules

RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood.

How: NY State Boycott of all arms and ammunition, starting with NY State Government, local
Government and all NY State Citizens/Taxpayers/Serfs

RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

We all know firearms and the Second Amendment. Time to say NO to the Bullies in NY State!

RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

NY State Government will be clueless on how to handle a boycott by Industry initiated by Taxpayers from the other “56” States.

RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.

No Rights to own Firearms for Citizens = No Rights, exemptions, or any other weasel language to possess
Firearms or ammunition for Government Employees anywhere in NY

If a NY State Citizen cannot buy the firearms/magazines/ammunition…. Nor can a Government Entity or
Government Employee in NY State

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It is irrational. It is infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Call Andrew Cuomo, he owns: your lack of Rights, your lack of security, or lack of ammunition or lack of firearms

RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more.
They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones.

For those of us outside of NY State: More product available and we end this gun control issue for a while

For those in NY State: Think of this as Chemo-therapy for gun control cancer; the process is not very enjoyable, but the results of killing off the gun control cancer are worth it.

Enjoy watching the NY State bureaucrats squirm and fuss

Enjoy watching the anti- gun types freak when the Government is not armed either! Que Mike Bloomberg, NY Police Union types and the UN idiots “guns for our security now! While leaving the taxpayers un-armed”

ENJOY ANDREW COUMO GET POUNDED ON ALL SIDES and watch his 2016 chances go away!

RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news.

Start this MONTH, it won’t last long!

Abe Lincoln took on slavery, so let us free taxpayers that enjoy firearms and the 2nd Amendment from being treated like Dred Scott honor Mr. Lincoln and start the BOYCOTT on 12 February 2013!

Call or e-mail every manufacturer of firearms and ammunition and demand they BOYCOTT all sales to NY STATE! Call and/or e-mail the NRA, NSSF, and SAMMI and demand they support a BOYCOTT of all firearms and ammunition to NY State to begin on February 12, 2013 starting with the NY State Government due to ANDREW Cuomo!

RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new.

The Boycott Ends when LAWS are repealed, not amended, not replaced…REPEALED and Law Abiding
Citizens & Taxpayers RIGHTS are recognized

RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.

NOT A THREAT. DEMAND a total BOYCOTT and make sure Andrew Cuomo owns it!

RULE 10: “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.” It is the unceasing pressure that will result in the reaction of the opposition that is essential for the success of the campaign.

The enraged Parties such as the NY State Police, Local Police, Government Employee Unions and finally
Citizens/Serf will be plenty of pressure on Mr. Cuomo.

RULE 11: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog.

Common Sense will prevail

RULE 12: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

No Compromise: The answers & solutions are already in place, the NY State Constitution and the US Constitution

RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

ANDREW COUMO


39 posted on 02/06/2013 11:34:44 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: redgolum

I’m not shocked at all because the claim of “influence” is false.


40 posted on 02/06/2013 11:49:36 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Joe Brower

Not a false comparison in the slightest. I was also quite entertained by the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Friday the 13th.

The person that commits these acts bears sole responsibility for them. Mommies that didn’t hug them enough or violence in TV is not a crutch or substitute for responsibility.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 11:51:35 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: mquinn
So advertising has no effect at all? Really?
42 posted on 02/06/2013 11:56:10 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: NFHale
Case in point: 60 years ago, who would have ever thought it was OK, much less a “right” - to murder an unborn infant - a CHILD?? Yet we got Roe v Wade in the 1970s. And somehow, magically, after a few decades, it’s now accepted practice.

When there’s a vacuum where a soul should be, be sure there will be something to fill that vacuum. And never be surprised at what that new occupant can and will do...it usually produces pretty horrific results.

Excellent post.

FMCDH(BITS)

43 posted on 02/06/2013 12:08:47 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: mquinn
Well, it's good to know that you had the presence of mind and strength of will to resist those negative influences. Me too. Unfortunately, decades of observation lead me to the conclusion that a good chunk of the populace is negatively effected to some extent or another. Simply calling for such qualities does not immediately ensure their existence.

Your unneeded slight against good, solid family influences incorrectly dismisses the value of that foundation of human civilization against such influences, and thereby misses another very large factor present today, and that is lack of same. This weakens your arguments.

One last thing -- in older days, splatter films were something that technology didn't bring into every household at the press of a button. You had to actively seek it. Nowadays, it finds you. As a parent, I can say with authority that's not good for kids.

44 posted on 02/06/2013 12:46:09 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

You sound like a liberal, wishing to lay responsibility for one’s actions upon external forces. Are you sure you didn’t misclick the democraticunderground.com by mistake?


45 posted on 02/06/2013 12:55:32 PM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: what's up

“The guy that saw the Batman movie before killing indicates that movies DO influence behavior.”

I agree. After seeing “John Carter” I wanted to kill the director.


46 posted on 02/06/2013 1:21:28 PM PST by MeganC (“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!”)
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To: mquinn
If I sound like a liberal, then your hearing needs to be checked. You want sounding like a liberal, how about smarting off to people you don't even know?

Grow up, and stow the insults, chum. I will waste no more time with you.

47 posted on 02/06/2013 1:47:10 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: fatnotlazy; Perdogg; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy

It’s a known fact that Willis is on our side.

Big stars with proven $$$$$ making ability have nothing to worry about.

It’s the the minor actors who would have to worry about being blacklisted.


48 posted on 02/06/2013 11:26:06 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: Joe Brower

Well, when you learn a bit more about taking responsibility for one’s own actions, do give me a buzz.


49 posted on 02/07/2013 10:31:24 AM PST by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: mquinn
Speaking of buzz -- buzz off, punk. I've forgotten more about personal responsibility than you'll ever learn.

Now go ahead -- post one more time so you can think you've won the debate.

50 posted on 02/07/2013 12:08:12 PM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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