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Women shot during LAPD ex-cop manhunt had no warning, lawyer says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com ^ | 02-08-13 | By Tracy Connor

Posted on 02/08/2013 12:15:18 PM PST by Red Badger

A mother and daughter who were mistakenly shot by Los Angeles police hunting for rampage suspect Christopher Dorner had no warning before bullets started whizzing through their newspaper-delivery truck, their lawyer said Friday.

“No command, no instruction, no warning. They just opened fire on them,” said Glen Jonas, who is representing Emma Hernandez, 71, and Margie Carranza, 47, in possible legal action against the LAPD.

“They had no idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up and praying and hoping they’re not going to die.”

Both women survived. Hernandez, shot in the back, was in good condition Friday. Her daughter suffered a hand injury during the shooting and is now physically fine, but emotionally scarred, Jonas said.

The LAPD admits the predawn Thursday shooting was a case of mistaken identity that unfolded while police were guarding the Torrance home of someone named in a manifesto that ex-cop Dorner posted online about his twisted plans to avenge his firing.

Chief Charlie Beck said the officers saw a vehicle that matched the description of Dorner’s, driving through the dark streets with no headlights – and a “police-involved shooting” ensued.

Jonas said the women’s blue Toyota Tacoma looked nothing like Dorner’s dark-gray Nissan Titan, but that even if it had been a match, the police should not have fired on it.

“They still have to give the guy an opportunity to surrender. You can’t just execute him,” the lawyer said. “It’s in these high-stress situations where you follow your training and they violated every piece of training they ever received.”

The LAPD had no comment on Jonas’ claims.

He said he expects the city will offer his clients a substantial payout; if not, he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit.

“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said. “If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copbashersonfr; dorner; lapd; leftwingmurderer; partisanmediashills
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To: Blood of Tyrants

> Those cops need to be removed from the force before they murder someone.

But then they’ll become removed ex-cops. Look at what just one ex-cop who was removed has allegedly done..


41 posted on 02/08/2013 12:39:56 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Pan_Yan

“they’ll get canned for making those two women Megamillions jackpot winners.”

Sorry but no they won’t get canned, they may get a few weeks paid vacation and then a disability retirement benefit but that’s about it. Expect to see them let off, also the MSM is down playing this like crazy so don’t expect any citizen anger either. The one nice thing about this is that cops are off the streets, I usually see at least two or three CHiPs on the way to work, this morning I saw none and there were two separate accidents one with the fire dept there and you always see cops when the fire trucks are on scene.


42 posted on 02/08/2013 12:40:13 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: Red Badger
“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said.
If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.

**************

I keep say'n.... "You can't make this stuff up..."

Now I rest my case...

43 posted on 02/08/2013 12:40:38 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Red Badger

IMO there looks like there is a whole lot more to this story than has been told. I give the MSM zero credibility


44 posted on 02/08/2013 12:40:47 PM PST by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: The Cajun

...and still only managed to wound two unarmed elderly women.........


45 posted on 02/08/2013 12:41:04 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Lurker
"Then they should be tried, convicted, stripped of their pensions, imprisoned for life, and sued into bankruptcy until their families are dead broke and starving in the streets."

Really think so?

46 posted on 02/08/2013 12:41:35 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: MeganC

It sure as hell does........


47 posted on 02/08/2013 12:43:13 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger
Semi-spray and pray.
They did get a decent amount in the kill zone of where the driver and passenger would be.
Imagine the more they shot, the wilder they got from panic trigger pulling.
Idiots is right in every aspect, from beginning to end.
48 posted on 02/08/2013 12:44:08 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: crazydad

49 posted on 02/08/2013 12:44:25 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Red Badger
The ex-cop they are looking to assassinate may be right after all...........

May be? May be?

The LA police sound like a bunch of lying thugs.

50 posted on 02/08/2013 12:44:25 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Red Badger

Someway, some how they will come up with charges to be placed against these women.


51 posted on 02/08/2013 12:44:31 PM PST by sport
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

As has been mentioned, what would happen to any of us in these circumstances? Tried, convicted, bankrupted by lawyers and civil judgements, families dead broke? Yep, yep, yep, and yep.


52 posted on 02/08/2013 12:45:42 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Lurker

Shea, right. They are covered by so many exemptions except intent.

Intent and malice will get them jailed. Making a big Azz mistake won’t.

Any regular citizen would be up on manslaughter + more and then sum more....


53 posted on 02/08/2013 12:46:17 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Red Badger

if you read the manifesto before it breaks down into a rambling, the guy has some legitimate beefs - those alone coupled with the cop killing assure he will not be taken alive - and be damned any law abiding civilian caught in the cross fire


54 posted on 02/08/2013 12:46:44 PM PST by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They did it. And will get away with doing it.


55 posted on 02/08/2013 12:46:54 PM PST by sport
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To: Tupelo

If you zoom in you can see it says LAPD.


56 posted on 02/08/2013 12:47:02 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Red Badger

Notice how tight the grouping is? /s


57 posted on 02/08/2013 12:47:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: sport

They’re already laying down some breadcrumbs — I myself don’t believe for a second that the woman was driving without headlights at 5 AM.


58 posted on 02/08/2013 12:48:09 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Those cops need to be removed from the force before they murder someone.

Should be convicted and hung for attempted murder.

59 posted on 02/08/2013 12:48:09 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: sport
Someway, some how they will come up with charges to be placed against these women.

I wouldn't be surprised at that.

At first, I was going to say that all large black men in LA better stay indoors, but after these chinese ladies got shot up, it seems EVERYONE in LA is in danger of being shot multiple times.
60 posted on 02/08/2013 12:48:34 PM PST by ZX12R
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