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Women shot during LAPD ex-cop manhunt had no warning, lawyer says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com ^ | 02-08-13 | By Tracy Connor

Posted on 02/08/2013 12:15:18 PM PST by Red Badger

A mother and daughter who were mistakenly shot by Los Angeles police hunting for rampage suspect Christopher Dorner had no warning before bullets started whizzing through their newspaper-delivery truck, their lawyer said Friday.

“No command, no instruction, no warning. They just opened fire on them,” said Glen Jonas, who is representing Emma Hernandez, 71, and Margie Carranza, 47, in possible legal action against the LAPD.

“They had no idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up and praying and hoping they’re not going to die.”

Both women survived. Hernandez, shot in the back, was in good condition Friday. Her daughter suffered a hand injury during the shooting and is now physically fine, but emotionally scarred, Jonas said.

The LAPD admits the predawn Thursday shooting was a case of mistaken identity that unfolded while police were guarding the Torrance home of someone named in a manifesto that ex-cop Dorner posted online about his twisted plans to avenge his firing.

Chief Charlie Beck said the officers saw a vehicle that matched the description of Dorner’s, driving through the dark streets with no headlights – and a “police-involved shooting” ensued.

Jonas said the women’s blue Toyota Tacoma looked nothing like Dorner’s dark-gray Nissan Titan, but that even if it had been a match, the police should not have fired on it.

“They still have to give the guy an opportunity to surrender. You can’t just execute him,” the lawyer said. “It’s in these high-stress situations where you follow your training and they violated every piece of training they ever received.”

The LAPD had no comment on Jonas’ claims.

He said he expects the city will offer his clients a substantial payout; if not, he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit.

“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said. “If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copbashersonfr; dorner; lapd; leftwingmurderer; partisanmediashills
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To: Girlene
What criminal charge(s) could be made against these LEO’s?

Aggravated Assault, Attempted Murder, violation of Civil Rights under color of authority (The Rodney King Federal Charge). I could probably think of a couple more.

I only wish I could be their attorney on a retainer for the Civil suit. These ladies will be rich someday soon. Their attorney will get 1/3. Heck, I'd do it for 1/6.

81 posted on 02/08/2013 1:08:02 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: MeganC
Wow, thought provoking post, Megan.

Another interesting scenario, check out this video in the Desert of a woman accosted by San Bernadino (California) Sheriff’s (in a helo) for collecting rocks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsj89p3RHE

82 posted on 02/08/2013 1:08:55 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: varyouga
...You can’t just execute him”

Wanna make a bet?........

83 posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:13 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

LOL!........


84 posted on 02/08/2013 1:11:38 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger
I don’t know how old these two Barney Fife wannabes are , but they will Never Ever live this down.................

These guys are fired. There won't be any jokes around the water cooler for these idiots. They failed to identify their target before they started shooting.

The vehicle that they shot at didn't even match the description of the vehicle that was the subject of the manhunt. There is no comparison between the little old ladies truck and the one they found burned in Big Bear.

If either of these ladies had been mortally wounded these guys would be going to prison.

They will probably avoid prison but they will be charged and convicted of some kind of felony. They will never be given the chance to kill someone with a firearm again.

85 posted on 02/08/2013 1:15:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Red Badger

I count at least 30 rounds all over the back end of that truck.

A.) The women are lucky to be alive, and B.) those idiot cops should be fired and barred from ever carrying a gun again.


86 posted on 02/08/2013 1:15:47 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks. I wondered if they could be charged with attempted murder. Think they will actually face any criminal punishment?


87 posted on 02/08/2013 1:16:34 PM PST by Girlene
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To: ColdOne

LA Cops....what else is there to say?

At least they didn’t shoot a dog?


88 posted on 02/08/2013 1:17:15 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jiggyboy

I used to deliver papers in the early AM, and driving (idling along, actually) the side streets with the lights off while the runner goes house to house is quite normal: It’s a courtesy to the residents, so your lights don’t disturb them.


89 posted on 02/08/2013 1:17:15 PM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: sport
Someway, some how they will come up with charges to be placed against these women.

Broken windshield?
Illegal parking?

90 posted on 02/08/2013 1:18:27 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: All

Funny, no boot lickers on this thread berating these women like they did for a former Marine named Jose Guerena defending his home against unkown attackers (cops).


91 posted on 02/08/2013 1:18:47 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: P-Marlowe

I hope you are right, but in today’s Bizzarro World, they may skate with a slap on the wrist and a wink and a nod.........


92 posted on 02/08/2013 1:18:59 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Luckily these two women were not seriously injured

Shot in the back and in "Good" condition isn't serious?

93 posted on 02/08/2013 1:19:18 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Red Badger
“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said. “If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.”

In the real world (which bears little resemblence to the movies), most people survive a gunshot wound.

94 posted on 02/08/2013 1:20:03 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Taking away guns will do nothing to stop violence.)
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To: Red Badger

Too.much.free.coffee!


95 posted on 02/08/2013 1:21:21 PM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: spodefly

A) God must have protected them.

B) Probably won’t happen..........


96 posted on 02/08/2013 1:21:59 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger

Unbelievable they should issue rubber bullets to the LAPD.


97 posted on 02/08/2013 1:22:20 PM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: mlizzy

BAD COP!.....NO DOUGHNUT!........


98 posted on 02/08/2013 1:23:17 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger

So police should be limited to seven rounds in their magazines. That will fix it. Oh! Maybe they shouldn’t have semi-auto weapons. There wouldn’t be so many bullet holes in Toyotas.


99 posted on 02/08/2013 1:24:55 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Don W
"I used to deliver papers in the early AM, and driving (idling along, actually) the side streets with the lights off while the runner goes house to house is quite normal: It’s a courtesy to the residents, so your lights don’t disturb them."

I would suspect that paper deliveries and everything else that requires night or early morning driving with a truck is going to be severely restricted.

100 posted on 02/08/2013 1:25:06 PM PST by Truth29
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