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Obama Gun Grab Based On False Assumptions
Ammo Land ^ | Feb 9, 2013 | Jeff Moran

Posted on 02/09/2013 9:32:22 AM PST by EXCH54FE

--(Ammoland.com)- On Jan. 16 213, President Obama put forward his 15-page plan to “better protect our children and our communities from tragic mass shootings like those in Newtown, Aurora, Oak Creek, and Tucson.”

The plan’s titular theme was “now is the time” for action. The top two priorities: universal background checks for gun purchases and a categorical rifle ban.

Setting aside the troubling facts that the White House sales pitch had significant omissions and/or exaggerations, that other experts say mass shootings are not any more prevalent today than they were in the past, and that rifles account for approximately 3 percent of all homicides, Mr. Obama’s two priorities are simply misguided and off-target, especially if he wants to move the needle with respect to American gun homicides and suicides.

This is because his top two priorities, as well as the rest of his plan, are based on the false assumptions that lethal gun abuse is a large and growing problem, and that it impacts Americans equally, making one-size-fits-all solutions appropriate.

My analysis of data within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System reveals 10 empirical and interrelated reasons why Mr. Obama’s assumptions are false and why his top two priorities are dead wrong:

1. The rates of gun-related homicide, suicide and accidental death have decreased by 44 percent, 19 percent and 69 percent respectively since 1993 (for all races and ages).

2. After declining substantially over 10 years, gun suicides rates have significantly increased each year since 2006 (for all races and ages).

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/09/2013 9:32:28 AM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

Here’s more:
3. Since 1993 the rate of gun suicides has been higher than both gun homicides and accidental gun deaths combined (all races and ages).

4. The ratio of gun suicides to gun homicides for white Americans is 3.1 to 1 and is the highest across all races, with whites aged 15 to 34 being most at risk.

5. Americans aged 15 to 24 are the most at risk for gun homicide, but the ratio of gun homicides to accidental deaths for this group was just 1 to 3 (all races).

6. The majority of American gun homicides (54 percent) take the lives of black Americans, who constitute just 14 percent of the total population.

7. Homicide is the leading cause of death only for black Americans aged 15 to 34, with 87.4 percent of all homicides for this group caused by guns.

8. The ratio of gun homicides to gun suicides for black Americans is over 6.1 to 1, but for non-black Americans it is just 1 to 3 (a difference of nearly 20 times).

9. The ratio of gun homicides to deaths from flu/pneumonia for black Americans is 1.1 to 1, for non-black Americans, it is just 0.1 to 1 (a difference of 10 times).

10. The ratio of gun homicides to accidental death not due to firearms for black Americans is .50 to 1. For non-black Americans, it is just .05 to 1 (a difference of 10 times).

These 10 take-aways suggest that Mr. Obama and his policy advocates seem to be ignoring the giant black and white elephants in the room, and this is shameful. The “black elephant” is the disproportionately large problem of gun homicides for black Americans. There is clearly a cause for grave concern with respect to blacks aged 15 to 34 years. Because black Americans are such a small percentage of the total population and tend to live in certain high-density areas, customized and targeted policies, outreach, civic organizing and engagement of at-risk individuals seem quite feasible and more likely to make substantial impacts.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 9:39:31 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: EXCH54FE

Obama Gun Grab Based On Lies


3 posted on 02/09/2013 9:43:26 AM PST by TYVets
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To: EXCH54FE

He does not care if they are False Assumptions! Just keep repeating them through the MSM and they soon become perceived as truth.


4 posted on 02/09/2013 9:48:32 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Beelzebubba

The facts don’t matter because his real purpose is to disarm the American public. The rest is spin and smokescreen.


5 posted on 02/09/2013 9:50:48 AM PST by umgud
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To: EXCH54FE
Assumptions??? please... it's based on his desire to disarm America
6 posted on 02/09/2013 9:52:00 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: EXCH54FE; All

Obama really wants to repeal the 2nd Amendment imo. But the problem for Obama is that he cannot afford for the Constitution’s Article V, the Constitution’s amendment process, to be put into the limelight. This is because once voters find out from Article V that only the states, not the federal government, can ratify proposed amendments to the Constitution, then voters would know that the states have absolute control over the federal government. And such knowledge would undoubtedly throw a monkey wrench into the Democratic agenda to unconstitutionally centralize government power in DC.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 10:00:21 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: EXCH54FE

Even if he was 100% correct the Chocolate Mince Pie can’t have my guns.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 10:00:33 AM PST by 4buttons
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To: Beelzebubba

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57% of firearms murders are by the 12% of population Baracks (who voted 98% for Obama)

27% of firearms murders are by the 14% of population Hispanics/Latinos (who voted 78% for Obama)

85% of firearms murders are by the 26% of population of Baracks and Hispanics/Latinos

Whites & Asians have a low perp rate - basically under 1/100,000

You do not like the numbers?

Racist you say? You are correct!

Consider the SOURCE:

Obama/Holder FBI-DOJ Uniform Crime Reports (under AG Eric Holder)

The democrat majority urban voting areas are the areas that firearms murders are occuring and are where the homo electus “Barry of the Bungle” tribes live, breed, snort, kill, and abort

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9 posted on 02/09/2013 10:03:28 AM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he's living now--)
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To: Beelzebubba; All

Any analysis that separates “gun homicides” or “gun suicides” from all homicides or all suicides is misleading because it is using a propaganda metric. If you eliminated all gun homicides, but the total number of homicides went up, you have made things worse, not better.

Consider “hospital deaths”. Millions of people die in hospitals. If we ban hospitals, we will stop all hospital deaths, but the overall number of deaths will increase.

That is why using “gun deaths” is a propaganda metric.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 10:04:17 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: EXCH54FE
Obama Gun Grab Based On False Assumptions

Nothing NEW here. Pretty much everything perpetrated by the Obozo administration is based on FALSE ASSUMPTIONS.

11 posted on 02/09/2013 10:07:20 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: EXCH54FE

“2. After declining substantially over 10 years, gun suicides rates have significantly increased each year since 2006 (for all races and ages).”

Sucicides had been on a decline, this being the lowest point, then we elected a democrat majority in the house where they even vote to control what kind of light bulb we are allowed to use.


12 posted on 02/09/2013 10:22:33 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: EXCH54FE

“2. After declining substantially over 10 years, gun suicides rates have significantly increased each year since 2006 (for all races and ages).”

Sucicides had been on a decline, this being the lowest point, then we elected a democrat majority in the house where they even vote to control what kind of light bulb we are allowed to use.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 10:22:53 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: marktwain

Any analysis that separates “gun homicides” or “gun suicides” from all homicides or all suicides is misleading because it is using a propaganda metric. If you eliminated all gun homicides, but the total number of homicides went up, you have made things worse, not better.


Exactly. 10 people might have prevented a knife or fist murder with a gun, while only one gun murder occurred.

Even if guns were safety-neutral, you’d still be beneficially equalizing the playing field to protect the small, frail, and infirm from tough guys.


14 posted on 02/09/2013 10:25:51 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: EXCH54FE
Obama Gun Grab Based On False Assumptions

What false assumptions?

He assumes he cannot communize America and liquidate his enemies unless we are disarmed, and he is absolutely right about that.

15 posted on 02/09/2013 10:28:05 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Obama is not working on a false assumption. He is pandering to his voters and those that will pay him money after this term

He need not think anything other than which way is the wind blowing.


16 posted on 02/09/2013 10:34:22 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: EXCH54FE

The whole gun grab bit is intended to criminalize White and Asian gun owners. They are the people who legally bought their guns and for whom a paper trail exists. Blacks and to a lessor extent Hispanics tend to have illegal guns for which no paper trail exists. Thus Whites are the people who will refuse to register their guns. Most who will refuse will be Obama’s political opponents. Game, set and match.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 11:09:08 AM PST by JimSEA ( “what difference does it make?”)
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To: TYVets
Obama Gun Grab Based On Lies

Obama is a walking, talking LIE, in human form.

18 posted on 02/09/2013 11:39:15 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: EXCH54FE
Forget the idea that Obama wants to “better protect our children and our communities", HE WANTS TO END CIVILIAN POSSESSION OF GUNS.

Obama looks at every situation as potentially exploitable, he thrives on exploitable situations, they are the root of all his power.

19 posted on 02/09/2013 12:09:40 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: EXCH54FE

Nothing of the kind.

Obama’s gun grab is based on the very soundest of assumptions; i.e., that a disarmed population will be easy to coerce in his drive toward Marxism/Leninism.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 3:41:11 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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