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Disgusting. So because these elderly folks gave their grandson a place to stay at one time and he used their address for a driver's license, it was immediately and automatically assumed that he was and would be there.

Meanwhile, no record of actual POLICE WORK being done here. They took the word of a "reliable informant." No stakeout of the residence was done. No unmarked car parked near this mobile home to see if the suspect was regularly in or out. Just a "reliable informant."

This isn't too far from where I live. I'm starting to get nervous about our militarized police forces in the Tampa Bay area. There was an article posted to FR recently that discussed Florida Highway Patrol's "vehicle inspection checkpoints" in and out of Hillsborough county. Might need to consider getting out of Florida for real.

1 posted on 02/09/2013 2:05:00 PM PST by rarestia
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As for barging into the Stark's home, Nocco said the SWAT team had no choice. He said Vineyard is a self proclaimed member of the Aryan Brotherhood and is known to carry a gun. "This could've turned into a violent situation against law enforcement," Nocco said. "The person who should apologize is Aaron Vineyard."

This Nocco is a complete arrogant power-mad ass. Because a suspect they are after may be armed and dangerous gives carte blanche forced entry into any property? What about warrants? I understand there are such things as no-knock warrants, but there still has to be a presigned piece of paper (Nocco, that's a f@cking warrant in case you don't know). The Starks should get a lawyer. If I got on the jury, they'd win.

2 posted on 02/09/2013 2:09:48 PM PST by Gaffer
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One of these days, a heavily armed, well trained ex-soldier is going to go to war against the police force.

The cops won't like it. And maybe the guy fighting back will be sort of a leftist loon. But some of us are going to see the police running around, scared of their own shadow and we're gonna cheer. They've got it coming, because they don't police themselves. Jack-booted thugs think they can do anything they like.

3 posted on 02/09/2013 2:10:22 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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Every overweight, moronic, superannuated cop these days fancies himself a Navy SEAL, and wants to get dressed up in his gear and break down doors.

This particular form of egregious childishness is extremely dangerous and has to be stopped.

Even if the felon had been there, it’s no excuse for breaking down doors and terrorizing the elderly.

As a society, we should expect that sort of behavior only from terrorists.


4 posted on 02/09/2013 2:12:04 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: rarestia

Could they have tried, like, knocking on the door?


6 posted on 02/09/2013 2:18:04 PM PST by marron
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Why don’t they do an old fashioned stakeout anymore? Follow the guy around and catch him when they know he’s there. Let’s just kick in the damn door of some relative and hope he’s there... Great police work.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 2:19:17 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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I bet a SWAT team wasn’t needed when they finally arrested him. SWAT teams are a bigger threat to society than criminals.


9 posted on 02/09/2013 2:22:57 PM PST by pallis
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No knock warrants are evil.


11 posted on 02/09/2013 2:30:30 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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What ever happened to doing a little detective work and picking up the guy going or coming? Breaking down a door and rushing in is just asking for trouble.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 2:33:48 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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if you go look or the REZKO family that may make more sense. Remember Obama’s buddy Tony Rezko ~ that’s what the name means.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 2:37:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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Investigators finally caught up with Vineyard on Friday at his girlfriends house and arrested him.

So where was the SWAT team and what happened to her door.

It appears to me that these cops were sending this old couple a message.


19 posted on 02/09/2013 2:38:35 PM PST by Venturer
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Kindly elderly folk should be more careful of the company they keep.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 2:42:14 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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I’d like to file this article under the “Stupid Florida Law Enforcement Agency Actions” category. God knows, that category is overflowing already.

But this type of crap is happening elsewhere too.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 2:52:20 PM PST by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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I don’t understand why the police feel the need to bust in on people like this unless there is an imminent threat to someone. Why not wait for the suspect to leave a premise and arrest him in the open?


32 posted on 02/09/2013 3:15:27 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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34 posted on 02/09/2013 3:27:14 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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35 posted on 02/09/2013 3:52:26 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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i thought warrants were not supposed to be served at NIGHT!!!
36 posted on 02/09/2013 3:52:40 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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They are very fortunate that they were not killed.


39 posted on 02/09/2013 4:15:06 PM PST by sport
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What? His fake ID was not correct?

There are better things to do like clearing the streets of newspaper delivery people.


40 posted on 02/09/2013 4:16:33 PM PST by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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"They knew Aaron Vineyards lived over here. Because they have been to his house, they have talked to him," Juanita said. "And no. They will never convince me that they thought he lived here."

Not so fast, said Sheriff Chris Nocco. Vineyard is Carl and Juanita's grandson and it's their address on his license. On top of that, the sheriff said a reliable informant led investigators to their home specifically.

I don't see any denial that they knew he lived next door. I don't see any denial that they had been there and talked to him in person. Apparently they put more trust in their "reliable informant" than their own lying eyes and ears.

46 posted on 02/09/2013 5:14:32 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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