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A Temporary Majority - The problem Democrats can’t solve.
Weekly Standard ^ | February 18, 2013 | Jay Cost

Posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:39 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 02/10/2013 5:51:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Amnesty will guarantee the democrats win most national and state level elections for the next three generations.
2 posted on 02/10/2013 6:01:30 PM PST by skeeter
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To: neverdem

We shall see. If they take a poll in the Fall of 2016 and a majority of the voters are still blaming Bush for the sour economy, then the Pubbies are sunk once again. And I won’t rule that possibility out. The Dem faithful have an endless capacity to swallow bovine fecal matter thrown at them from their Dem leaders.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 6:06:07 PM PST by driftless2
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To: neverdem

Oh, I’ve no doubt the Pubs will rise again. But the difference this time is that when the Dems go out, they’re going to take the country and its economy with them. The sad fact is that we’ve reached the tipping point where the idiots will keep electing the Santas that promise free stuff. At least until the point is driven home to them that in the end, there IS no free stuff, only stuff that exacts a price somewhere else in the economy. Before that happens, there will be economic upheaval and social disruption on a scale no one has seen in his lifetime, perhaps ever. It cannot be predicted just what will happen, or what type of shell the Pubs will be taking over, or just what can be done to set it back on course. Depends, I suppose, on whether after all the conflict and disruption, the entitlement society still feels entitled and continues to act on that. If so, there will be no stability until one group, either the entitled or the productive, are effectively neutralized.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 6:09:52 PM PST by Emile (Leftists are so 'open-minded', their brains have fallen out. -- (HT to GOPJ))
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To: neverdem

They don’t seem to be having much of a problem holding on to power in North Korea.

I submit that the NK economy is somewhat worse that the US economy.

The author apparently has never heard of vote fraud either.


5 posted on 02/10/2013 6:11:45 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: neverdem

This fellow makes a pretty good historical case, but we have one condition today that is different and relevant. The Latino population in the USA is far larger and growing rapidly and there is no proof or record that they will ever vote republican in large numbers. I think this trumps the author’s position and clearly predicts the near (5-10 years) future.


6 posted on 02/10/2013 6:12:39 PM PST by umgud
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To: skeeter

We are definitely swimming against the tide.

Every year 2.5 million (mostly old, white, 60%+ R voting) people die replaced by (mostly minority 70%+ D voting) people.

Two generations of progressive controlled education and the influx of illegals may be too much to overcome.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 6:16:42 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: neverdem

As if I am interested in taking advice from people on the left who “want to help me win elections.”


8 posted on 02/10/2013 6:21:47 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: skeeter
What always happens in a bimodal saddle situation (which is forced by the cold, hard facts of the single member district) is new coalition partners are found within the ranks of the other pole of the equation who are tired of not getting any of their guys into the top slots in the party elections.

Remember it takes 50%+1 vote to win! People don't care to be losers, nor do they care to be a little cog in a big machine that never lets any of them get to pull the levers of power.

It's virtually impossible to get so many voters to support your cause that the other side totally disappears.

9 posted on 02/10/2013 6:23:01 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: skeeter

That and control of the media, which is a huge advantage in every election, especially the Presidential ones.


10 posted on 02/10/2013 6:23:35 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: neverdem

I think this is historically fairly accurate, but to put it into Pol Pot terms, history is quite possibly being rewritten before our eyes. If indeed the Dems have successfully mixed up their sordid soup of underinformed, perpetually dependent “gimme” voters, while ginning up hatred against the evil rich white folks who put the country into whatever state is the gripe of the week, then this could go on for a long time. Who knows, it could still be GWB’s fault 20 years from now. I can’t predict, and I know that almost nobody else can, either.

Yeah, it’s the economy, but more specifically, the *perception* of the economy. The economy of redistributing astronomical riches so unjustly snaked away from those deserving it the most...the poor...the underserved, the recent immigrant class...then the abstract appeal of freedom and the ideals of independence will dry up, wilt, and become cute little remnants of a once-great country in the shadow of the coolness of Beyonce.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 6:25:06 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: umgud
-- This fellow makes a pretty good historical case, but we have one condition today that is different and relevant. --

I was thinking that the primary difference, today, is that "the economy" is different for the takers, who vote for the government givers (the DEMs).

"The economy," for that voter, is not whether or not a job is coming, or a rising tide floats all boats. That voter is self centered, and is sensitive to promises form more handouts, better care, etc. As long as the DEMs can blame the GOP for failing to handout, the takers will rule.

This was predicted long ago, and is a historically repeating pattern. It is the reason democracies always always always fail.

12 posted on 02/10/2013 6:28:46 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: FreedomPoster

Reagan won two elections in an era where the dems had the media and there was no other media.


13 posted on 02/10/2013 6:31:19 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: neverdem

“Weekly Standard’ is an EXTEME RINO/GOP-e “Publication”!


14 posted on 02/10/2013 6:32:39 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: neverdem; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”All of this raises the key question: Can the Democrats keep these groups happy and grow the economy? The evidence to date suggests the answer is no. Witness the Democratic opposition to opening up domestic energy production, which would have been a no-brainer 50 years ago. Witness the party’s stimulus bill of 2009, which focused more on political patronage than economic growth. Witness the party’s continued efforts to push for a cap and trade system, which would kneecap economic growth. And above all, witness Obamacare, a vast regulatory system that saddles businesses with even more burdens. The Democrats have proposed all of these things since 2009, when they were voted into office to jump-start the economy.”

Obama needed a GOP controlled House to get re-elected.
Democrats can continue to push the freebees because they can always blame the bad economy and the deficits on the GOP House.
In 2010 they couldn't get away with that.
Or in 1994.

‘Obama cares for me and is trying to fix things. That's all that counts’

15 posted on 02/10/2013 6:54:28 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: nascarnation

However, consider that if Europe continues its slide into the abyss, we may have an influx of immigrants from Greece, Italy, Spain, and Ireland. The balance of power may shift again if we can get our messaging right.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 7:00:37 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Cboldt
The fellows making all those predictions didn't have much knowledge of democracies ~ at that time. They didn't know if they failed ~ in fact, in their consideration of democratic process they imagined a permanent majority would pop into existence and begin looting the republic.

Actually, the single member district and it's 50%+1 long term winning standard pretty much eliminates that problem. Alas for the Founders, they didn't have much knowledge of democracy so they blew it. In fact they thought men of property and education would always elect good men to office so they didn't really think that far ahead to the time when there'd be no slaves, and everybody could read and write.

17 posted on 02/10/2013 7:03:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Viennacon

I hope you’re right.


18 posted on 02/10/2013 7:07:54 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: umgud; nascarnation
The Latino population in the USA is far larger and growing rapidly...

Not according to the author of this piece, Jonathan V. Last, which is linkrd below. Last also said on C-Span's BookTV last week that the fertility of Latinas in the USA is also dropping fast.

Fertility and immigration: Global demographics, not domestic policy, will control who comes and who goes.

The result is that from 2005 to 2010, the U.S. received a net of zero immigrants from Mexico...

Michael Barone also wrote within the last year that net migration from Mexico was zero. It's our booming economy, not. The number coming is the same as the number going home. IIRC, Mexico's annual GDP is about 5 %.

19 posted on 02/10/2013 7:14:53 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

I’ve seen those stats also. Not sure of the validity, but certainly possible.

One example here in the midwest was that many non-union construction jobs (largely single family home construction and repair) were held by Mexicans, and most of that work is gone.


20 posted on 02/10/2013 7:17:58 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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