Posted on 02/12/2013 7:11:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Ronald Reagan: RINO? Cokie Roberts and Joe Scarborough have suggested the Gipper might be viewed that way by the modern-day Republican party, making him unelectable within GOP ranks.
After Joe Scarborough said that it was Reagan who rounded up Republican support for the assault weapons ban in 1984, Roberts exclaimed "I'm not sure Reagan could get elected within the Republican party today." Scarborough concurred: "I don't know that he could."
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That is total crap. Duncan Hunter is not national material. He was fizz in California but bust out of his area
That’s it exactly. Altho I do think Palins support was soft enough in certain areas to make her vulnerable. I don’t see her doing well against Gingrich in debates ... and the first part of the GOP primaries recently has been about Conservative going after each other before going after the moderate ( who ends up being the nominee). Gingrich would see her as the first obstacle to get past before knocking off the other Conservatives and then finally going after Romney.
A Paul - Rubio contest in 2016 would be preferable. But my guess us that there are four or five other Conservatives in it as well. So we end up with a repeat of 2012: three final candidates of which two are Conservative and one GOPe ( or at least percieved as such ... I still need to do more homework on Rubio).
Cokie And Scarborough Not Sure what time zone there in.
Reagan wasn’t necessarily elected because of his stances on the issues....he was elected because people saw him as a true leader, and he had the political savvy that it took to win over people, even if they didn’t agree with him on everything he said.
I’m not sure Ronald Reagan would have stayed in the republican party of today!!!
He stayed in it while the Rockefeller Wing held sway.
No, RINO Scarborough could not get elected as a republican.
But he could elected as a liberal democrat, which is what he has became since the started working at PMSNBC, where his main role is to bash conservatives, most notably Sarah Palin.
Well, if that’s true, why do so many candidates evoke his name and try to convince people they’re from the same mold?
Reagan today would not be pro “assault weapons” ban. He was pretty good at assaying reality.
Their last two candidates were McCain and Romney. What more centrism do these people want?
Newt a clear-voiced conservative? Maybe he’s a better spoken than Romney. He’s also prone to say stupider and Frazier things occasionally. As far as ideology goes, between him and Romney it’s six of one, half a dozen of the other.
“Historical heft”? More like baggage.
Those people are worthless, just like their opinions.
Newt was part of the conservative movement since the 1970’s. In deeds he has demonstrated his conservatism. He cut spending and balanced budgets, eliminated committees in the House, limited the terms of committee chairmen and the speakership (his own office), he cut congressional staffs by a third and forced Bob Dole to do the same, he kept passing welfare reform till it was signed, he passed tax cuts through the House, he let the ICC expire (the first time an agency ever went away), he ignored seniority and put conservatives in charge of committees (unlike Boehner, who did the opposite), he wasn’t afraid of shutting down the government (also unlike Boehner). This is just a sampling. In actual deeds, Gingrich is a conservative.
Romney on the other hand, raised taxes and fees here in MA, pushed through Romneycare, was pro-choice then pro-life, loved mandates, refused to associate himself with conservative groups. In 1994, a conservative wave year when Bill Weld was re-elected with 70% of the vote, Romney lost to Ted Kennedy. Had Romney campaigned with Weld, and been not so mushy moderate, he could have beaten Kennedy.
This is all water under the bride, of course. But I’ll take Gingrich’s actions over Romney’s words any day of the week.
“First order of biz get those hostages OUT”
That’s not really something the Reagan administration did, but had done for them, considering they were released on inauguration day. How cpuld it have been first order of biz if by the time there was a Reagan presidency there were no histagrs? Unless you believe in conspitacy theories about people on his side, for instance Bush the Elder, deliberately delaying release until after he was president.
“Afleck left that out”
Maybe because “Argo” was about the rescue of the Americans hiding in the Canadian embassy, not the hostages themselves. Though obviously it was about the hostages, too, tangentially. I don’t think there was any obligation to go into the diplomacy or the ‘80 campaign or otherwise explain how, exactly, the 52 or whatever got out. There were a few things to complain about politically, if you were lokoking fir a fight, with “Argo.” How they portrayed the Shah, the boons on the street news footage, or Carter’s cameo, but that’s nitpicking, really.
“First order of biz get those hostages OUT”
That’s not really something the Reagan administration did, but had done for them, considering they were released on inauguration day. How cpuld it have been first order of biz if by the time there was a Reagan presidency there were no histagrs? Unless you believe in conspitacy theories about people on his side, for instance Bush the Elder, deliberately delaying release until after he was president.
“Afleck left that out”
Maybe because “Argo” was about the rescue of the Americans hiding in the Canadian embassy, not the hostages themselves. Though obviously it was about the hostages, too, tangentially. I don’t think there was any obligation to go into the diplomacy or the ‘80 campaign or otherwise explain how, exactly, the 52 or whatever got out. There were a few things to complain about politically, if you were lokoking fir a fight, with “Argo.” How they portrayed the Shah, the boobs on the street news footage, or Carter’s cameo, but that’s nitpicking, really.
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