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Cabin In Dorner Barricade Situation Engulfed In Flames (FBI Hostage Roasting Team?)
CBS Los Angeles ^ | ebruary 12, 2013

Posted on 02/12/2013 6:08:33 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: dfwgator
The LAPD really wanted this man dead That's your opinion.

LOL.

54 bullet holes in the Asian women's car and you think they just wanted to wound him?

81 posted on 02/12/2013 9:15:46 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They cannot afford to let him be taken alive. He’ll start doing jailhouse interviews and the American people will hear him repeat the leftist propaganda that is in his “manifesto.” The liberal media and the liberal politicians cannot allow that. Better just to kill him.


82 posted on 02/12/2013 9:19:04 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: virgil

“It’s unnecessary escalation of force on the street that is becoming out of control.”

And the routine violation of the laws they are supposed to be enforcing. In a sense, by so doing, they make their own jobs more difficult because they are not respected. Example: I was returning home about midnight a couple of months back. I was just a couple of miles beyond the local CHP office when I noticed two vehicles (notably not displaying any warning devices) coming up on me at an extremely high rate of speed (I mean something on the order of 120 mph). And sure enough, it was two CHP Crown Vics traveling at speeds that would get a citizen thrown in jail! Where were they going in such a hurry? Well about ten miles later, there they both were with their lights flashing, sitting on a night construction project. I guess they were just late for the “shift change.”


83 posted on 02/12/2013 9:46:30 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

FWIW, the truck of the 2 newspaper delivery folks was the same make, different model, and in the hours of darkness was dark blue vice dark silver. The truck was driving around without lights and fit the MO appearance of the suspect who was considered armed and dangerous and very life threatening to other officers.

I can understand their mistaking the vehicle and drivers as possibly the suspect from afar.

I think they have difficulty explaining the numbers of rounds fired, how few struck their target, and why so many other vehicles in the neighborhood also got shot up.

IMHO, it would be easier to explain if the cops had used automatic weapons on full auto with only 1 out of every 5 rounds even striking the vehicle and they went through about 5 magazines of ammo each before even stopping to inquire about their intended target.


84 posted on 02/13/2013 1:37:01 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: lacrew

This also is one reason we try to train folks in MOUT as the tactics and weaponry perform much differently in closed quarters than in open areas. Inside a small room, well insulated and with furnishings, there is plenty of fuel for small fires. The CS grenade eats up the oxygen and concentrates the incapacitants.

While training in a CS chamber, it’s easy to get the impression you can hold your breath and walk through the gas threat. In real life, it incapacitates once inhaled in close quarters not to mention it’s difficult to put out secondary fires when they begin in the CS laden environment.

Best choice is to get out while still conscious and nor yet incapacitated.


85 posted on 02/13/2013 1:55:28 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

What about the fact that they opened fire in the first place? Do you think that was justified?


86 posted on 02/13/2013 3:46:25 AM PST by Ken H (Note to self: ALWAYS use the '/s' tag, even when you don't think it's necessary.)
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To: mrsmel

Yet the “crazy left” cheer for him taking innocent folks out. Such dark times we live in.


87 posted on 02/13/2013 3:56:17 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: TheRhinelander
And you people wonder why this site is on the DHS cyber team’s watch list.

Who isn't, other than Moslems?

88 posted on 02/13/2013 6:08:24 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Cvengr

“While training in a CS chamber, it’s easy to get the impression you can hold your breath and walk through the gas threat”

Geez, I never got that impression. We took off our masks, had to shout our names, do push ups, etc...essentially when the first guy looked green and blue, the group left the tent...and we had snotcicles down to our feet.

There’s been a little more information about the assult on the cabin. I saw a report that an APC rammed holes in it.

Now look at one thing you wrote: “The CS grenade eats up the oxygen”.

I wonder if LEO’s are deliberately punching holes in buildings (Waco comes to mind) as a tactic to make sure the grenades don’t starve themselves out...and as a result making buildings alot more likely to ignite.


89 posted on 02/13/2013 7:08:43 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Cvengr

“I can understand their mistaking the vehicle and drivers as possibly the suspect from afar.”

I can’t! You had better hope you are never on the receiving end of this kind of “shoot first and ask questions later” type of “law enforcement!” I find it very disturbing that anyone would countenance this kind of behavior. Bullets can go a lot of places where they can injure others who are not in the line of fire. This was disgraceful behavior. Surprised you think it’s justified, particularly when the truck wasn’t returning fire! Are you a cop?


90 posted on 02/13/2013 9:00:37 AM PST by vette6387
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To: IMR 4350

Or, a holiday theme. “Chris’s nuts roasting in an open fire”.

(Should have named him Chet.)


91 posted on 02/17/2013 6:43:54 AM PST by tdscpa
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To: smoothsailing

I was following part of this on KFI radio online and do remember they reported he may have taken a horse and escaped. It was also reported during the standoff that a police cruiser was missing. The other interesting thing that was reported was that no one, LEO or otherwise actually saw Dorner enter the cabin or saw him during the shoot-out until he stepped outside at one point and was herded back in by LEO.

I just figured most of what was being reported was inaccurate as it usually turns out to be.


92 posted on 02/17/2013 7:21:53 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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