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POLITICO: Fact-checking Marco Rubio’s State of the Union response (Let's fact-check them back)
POLITICO ^ | 02/13/2013 | By DARREN SAMUELSOHN and JOANNE KENEN

Posted on 02/13/2013 8:19:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Sen. Marco Rubio got a turn on the national stage opposite President Barack Obama Tuesday night, but some of the facts the likely 2016 presidential contender marshaled to make his case played loose with the truth.

Here’s POLITICO’s look at some of the Florida senator’s questionable claims during his prime-time debut.

* Sequester blame game

Rubio: “And tonight, he even criticized us for refusing to raise taxes to delay military cuts — cuts that were his idea in the first place.”

Actually, Obama didn’t directly criticize Republicans for not agreeing to raise taxes to offset the across-the-board spending cuts. He slammed them for trying to shift the budget hit to domestic programs, something the Pentagon and the defense industry have taken pains to oppose.

Indeed, both Democrats and Republicans signed off on sequestration under the impression neither side would let it happen. With just weeks to go before it hits, both are blaming the other side without offering a substantive way out of the impasse.

The senator did get one thing right: The idea of sequestration started in the White House.

* Climate change attacks

Rubio: “When we point out that no matter how many job-killing laws we pass, our government can’t control the weather — he accuses us of wanting dirty water and dirty air.”

It’s hard to say which “job-killing” environmental or energy laws the Florida Republican is talking about. Though Obama nudged Congress on cap and trade again, the president essentially gave up on this idea back in 2010 when it died in the Senate.

And when the bill died, Obama didn’t exactly go on offense slamming Republicans the way Rubio describes it.

* Medicare broke?

Rubio: “But anyone who is in favor of leaving Medicare exactly the way it is right now, is in favor of bankrupting it.”

By “anyone” Rubio clearly means Democrats. But through Obamacare, Democrats have already made changes to Medicare that added several years of solvency to the hospital trust fund. The health care law also initiated many changes to how Medicare delivers care, which are designed to slow spending growth. The president has said he’s open to other changes in the health care program for the elderly, as long as it’s part of a balanced approach of increased revenue and spending cuts.

In addition, Medicare isn’t going “bankrupt.” The hospital trust fund — one part of the senior health care program, although a crucial part — would start taking in less money than it pays out in a few years if Congress doesn’t do something about it — but Congress has always done something about it. Nevertheless, Medicare does cost a lot of money, the baby boomers are retiring and their future health bills are widely seen as a huge drag on the economy for years to come.

* Obamacare killing jobs?

RUBIO: “Obamacare was supposed to help middle-class Americans afford health insurance. But now, some people are losing the health insurance they were happy with. And because Obamacare created expensive requirements for companies with more than 50 employees, now many of these businesses aren’t hiring. Not only that; they’re being forced to lay people off and switch from full-time employees to part-time workers.”

There’s nothing in the law that is forcing people to lose insurance they’re happy with — in fact, according to census data, both the number of uninsured people and the uninsurance rate declined in 2011 (the most recent census figures available), partly because more people under 26 have gotten covered. Some people lose or change insurance every year — and that was true long before Obamacare became law.

It is true that some employers are at least contemplating cutting their full-time workforce to keep under the 50-worker threshold. How widespread this will be at the end of the day — or whether these people will be able to get subsidized coverage on exchanges or through expanded Medicaid — isn’t yet certain. But Rubio hit on a valid concern.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barfalert; factcheck; marcorubio; politiconuffsaid; rubio; sotu

1 posted on 02/13/2013 8:20:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How come they never fact check Obama?


2 posted on 02/13/2013 8:23:37 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

RE: How come they never fact check Obama?

You don’t fact-check your Lord and Savior:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQNL3Pntbko


3 posted on 02/13/2013 8:26:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Timber Rattler

Actually, at least MSNBC did:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2988092/posts

Politico is toooooo far left to fact check the _resident


4 posted on 02/13/2013 8:26:55 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is hilarious. On each point they claim Rubio is wrong, then in the last sentence of each section, they admit he’s right.


5 posted on 02/13/2013 8:27:47 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: SeekAndFind

Politics’s attempt at “fact checking” seems to be more an exercise in shallow speculation.


6 posted on 02/13/2013 8:28:07 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN | 2/8/13

Republicans open to letting billions in sequester cuts go through figure they can blame the president if the economy goes south.

But Democrats are betting they can shift that blame right back to the GOP.

They’re so confident, in fact, that they’re already eyeing at least 10 Republican-held seats with strong military connections from Florida to California to target in 2014, after sequester cuts have trickled down to local bases where jobs are lost and voters notice.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/sequester-cuts-ticking-time-bomb-87363.html#ixzz2KnTGzaE2


7 posted on 02/13/2013 8:30:12 AM PST by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Joanne Kenen

8 posted on 02/13/2013 8:32:11 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Timber Rattler
"How come they never fact check Obama?"

Politico is on Obama's team.

9 posted on 02/13/2013 8:32:49 AM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Darren Samuelsohn

10 posted on 02/13/2013 8:33:02 AM PST by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Politico = Politburo.


11 posted on 02/13/2013 8:33:57 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Samuelsohn joined POLITICO in June 2010 after a decade in Washington D.C. with E&E Publishing’s Greenwire and Environment & Energy Daily. There, he covered domestic and international climate change politics and policy, major energy legislation and air pollution regulations. Before E&E, Samuelsohn was the outdoors, travel and entertainment reporter at The Olympian in Washington state.


12 posted on 02/13/2013 8:34:22 AM PST by kcvl
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To: SeekAndFind

Hard to hear what Politico is saying when they have their heads so far up Obama’s butt.


13 posted on 02/13/2013 8:36:41 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: kcvl

IT’S A MAN, BABY!!
-Austin Powers


14 posted on 02/13/2013 8:36:41 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: kcvl

So............basically he’s an eco-hippy.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 8:38:33 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kenen got the newspaper bug in second grade (the Teeny Town News), spent way too much time at the Harvard Crimson and then found herself in Central America, where she had an Inter American Press Association fellowship. She worked for Reuters in New York, Florida and the Caribbean and Washington. As a Kaiser Family Foundation media fellow in 2006-07, she wrote about aging and palliative care. She spent three years writing and blogging about health policy at the nonpartisan *New America Foundation.

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The New America Foundation is an American non-profit, left-leaning public policy institute and think tank focusing on a wide range of issues, including national security studies, technology, asset building, health, energy, education, and the economy. The organization is based in Washington DC in addition to having a significant presence in New York City.

In 2007 Steve Coll, a former managing editor of The Washington Post, became President of the New America Foundation. Google's Executive Chairman, Eric Schmidt, is chairman of the foundation's board of directors.

16 posted on 02/13/2013 8:39:05 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Timber Rattler
How come they never fact check Obama?

Well, that would be racist.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 8:39:11 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: V_TWIN

Joanne Kenen

butthucking fugly


18 posted on 02/13/2013 8:41:10 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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New America Foundation: Another ‘Non-Partisan’ Group Goes Hard Left...Again

Behold the New America Foundation (NAF), yet another Washington, D.C. entity laying claim to high-browed, high-minded non-partisanship.

The New America Foundation is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy institute that invests in new thinkers and new ideas to address the next generation of challenges facing the United States....

Too often, these challenges have proven impervious to conventional party politics and incremental proposals.

The first question that leaps to mind is: Why a New America? Why do they want to rid us of the Old America? Sounds an awful lot like President Barack Obama wanting to “fundamentally transform” the Old Girl.

Who pays for this little show? And by “little show” we mean one that had a 2010 outlay of $15,695,563. Why, it’s Leftist joints like:

$1,000,000 (in 2011)

The Ford Foundation

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

Eric and Wendy Schmidt

$250,000-$999,999 (in 2011)

Open Society Institute (a George Soros outfit)

Google, Inc.

Wait, go back - Eric Schmidt? Is that the President Obama Uber-Crony?

Eric is a member of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology....

Google Chairman Eric Schmidt Doubles Down On His Support Of President Obama

Some Perspective on Obama’s Bromance with Eric Schmidt

Why yes it is. And wait: Google gave somewhere between $250K and $1 million - and their former Chairman gave an additional $1 million-plus?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/08/New-America-Foundation-Another-Non-Partisan-Group-Goes-Hard-Left-Again


19 posted on 02/13/2013 8:41:20 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Those two rats look like imperfect, strange characters from a Steven King novel. Their evil-following intent shows through.


20 posted on 02/13/2013 8:48:05 AM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: V_TWIN
IT’S A MAN, BABY!!

I don't know about that. I don't think we can agree on the species, let alone the sex.

21 posted on 02/13/2013 8:50:44 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: mkmensinger
This is hilarious. On each point they claim Rubio is wrong, then in the last sentence of each section, they admit he’s right.

Absolutely.

Regarding cap and trade: Zero just decided to use the EPA to impose job-killing regulations, ie. the War on Coal, to basically have the same effect by fiat vs. legislation.

22 posted on 02/13/2013 8:53:43 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: kcvl
That is one great big heapin' helpin' of ugly right there.

I wonder how much she charges to haunt a house?

23 posted on 02/13/2013 9:09:05 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SeekAndFind

As a long time small(relatively) business manager, I really get tired of this ‘you can keep your insurance’ talk. Any owner that has under 50 will definitely drop their employer paid plan. If you netted $150000 in your business with 35 employees, the penalty I think is $2700 per employee per year, they are going to pay $750/mo/employee for their plan. $94,500 or $315000, which do you think they are going to choose? I have already been told what this result is, there will be no employer paid health insurance!


24 posted on 02/13/2013 9:25:58 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: kcvl

Wow...that is ONE ugly dude!


25 posted on 02/13/2013 9:37:40 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

didn’t politico start off as a cionservative site? They sure as hell aint now if so-


26 posted on 02/13/2013 9:39:00 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: kcvl

...another satisfied customer of the Rosa DeLauro Charm and Beauty Institute...


27 posted on 02/13/2013 9:50:27 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: kcvl

Bow wow! What a dog!


28 posted on 02/13/2013 9:50:32 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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