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Pentagon creates new medal for cyber, drone wars
Boston.com ^ | February 13, 2013 | LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 02/13/2013 1:14:39 PM PST by Mad Dawgg

WASHINGTON (AP) — They fight the war from computer consoles and video screens.

But the troops that launch the drone strikes and direct the cyberattacks that can kill or disable an enemy may never set foot in the combat zone. Now their battlefield contributions may be recognized.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Wednesday that for the first time the Pentagon is creating a medal that can be awarded to troops who have a direct impact on combat operations, but do it from afar.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodod; dronemedal; drones; medal
OK but DRUDGE teaser says they will be rated Higher than Bronze... Interesting...
1 posted on 02/13/2013 1:14:45 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg

Let’s call it the “Useless REMF”!


2 posted on 02/13/2013 1:16:51 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"A recognition of the evolving 21st Century warfare, the medal will be considered a bit higher in ranking than the Bronze Star, but is lower than the Silver Star, defense officials said."

Perhaps the medal should be in the shape of a chair.

3 posted on 02/13/2013 1:18:10 PM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Mad Dawgg

You posted a few seconds faster than me, I will ask to have it pulled. My comment was my son just upgraded his Vector last night to diamond, is he entitled to a medal now too?


4 posted on 02/13/2013 1:18:19 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: US Navy Vet

My buddy had sent me a joke about this around Christmas. It was about the first drone pilot getting an Air Medal and a Purple Heart for carpal tunnel syndrome.


5 posted on 02/13/2013 1:20:10 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Mad Dawgg

I guess the pentagon has medal envy...

6 posted on 02/13/2013 1:20:47 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Mad Dawgg

My understanding is that medals are for acts of bravery. Recognition of the contributions made by the tech guys is appropriate but aren’t there other ways to do it?


7 posted on 02/13/2013 1:23:09 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: US Navy Vet
"Let’s call it the “Useless REMF”!"

I got no problem at all giving people medals who are piloting multi-million dollar remote aircraft and kicking ass while doing it. Nothing wrong with giving props for a job well Done.

But Rating it higher than a Bronze Star for which one usually must risk life and limb to get, is a slap in the face to people who have risked it all to serve their country and received such.

8 posted on 02/13/2013 1:23:14 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The Order of the Game Controller.

9 posted on 02/13/2013 1:23:16 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: US Navy Vet

If a person can take out a terrorist camp from 8,000 miles away, run to the store at during lunch, come back to work and do it again, and then finish the day with a round of golf, I’d call that a RE Bad-ass MF...


10 posted on 02/13/2013 1:24:22 PM PST by stormer
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Comes in several varieties...


11 posted on 02/13/2013 1:25:02 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mad Dawgg

“But Rating it higher than a Bronze Star for which one usually must risk life and limb to get, is a slap in the face to people who have risked it all to serve their country and received such.”

agreed


12 posted on 02/13/2013 1:25:56 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Bronze Star can be awarded for valor OR merit. It isn’t necessarily a combat award.


13 posted on 02/13/2013 1:27:11 PM PST by stormer
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To: Mad Dawgg

Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto medal?

They’ve also come up with some brand new disorders caused by operating these drones.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-woes-of-an-american-drone-operator/5315869


14 posted on 02/13/2013 1:27:23 PM PST by WCH
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To: US Navy Vet

“Let’s call it the “Useless REMF”!”

with Caramel Cluster


15 posted on 02/13/2013 1:27:51 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Mad Dawgg
"But Rating it higher than a Bronze Star for which one usually must risk life and limb to get, is a slap in the face to people who have risked it all to serve their country and received such."

That is what bothers me most, no way it should ever be higher than a medal earned in combat.

16 posted on 02/13/2013 1:29:16 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Squawk 8888
"My understanding is that medals are for acts of bravery. Recognition of the contributions made by the tech guys is appropriate but aren’t there other ways to do it?"

Locally I know several guys who are in the Coast Guard (One is a rescue swimmer which is one of the most dangerous jobs in all of the Armed forces.) They were home a few years back (they are all related) and we remarked on the many Medals they were sporting. The spoke up and said that literally many of them are awarded for things like Not falling off the boat or tying your shoes right. But none of them ranked above or even close to the Several Awards the Rescue Swimmer got for risking his life to save people.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 1:29:32 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I got no problem at all giving people medals who are piloting multi-million dollar remote aircraft and kicking ass while doing it. Nothing wrong with giving props for a job well Done.
But Rating it higher than a Bronze Star for which one usually must risk life and limb to get, is a slap in the face to people who have risked it all to serve their country and received such.

They also get combat flight pay for the missions they "fly."

18 posted on 02/13/2013 1:31:42 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Mad Dawgg

And you,sir are awarded the Golden Drone Award!


19 posted on 02/13/2013 1:33:30 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Minutemen
"And you,sir are awarded the Golden Drone Award!"

Does that make me an official REMF?

20 posted on 02/13/2013 1:37:02 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The Legion of Merit (LOM) is a military award of the United States Armed Forces that is given for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding services and achievements.

I know, I know, this would make field grade and above officers mad,hmmm on second thought people might think they really did something.


21 posted on 02/13/2013 1:43:37 PM PST by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Mad Dawgg
They aren't just saving the princess, they are earning a medal...then they have to clean their room.
22 posted on 02/13/2013 1:53:04 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Hoffer Rand

Ridiculous. It does take skill, and there is a shoot-don’t shoot element to it, but combat intimates that you’ve placed yourself in harm’s way. This ain’t that.

Colonel, USAF
Senior REMF


23 posted on 02/13/2013 1:55:02 PM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Mad Dawgg

“...will be rated Higher than Bronze...”

Give them a Navy/Army/Air Force Achievement Medal. That’s plenty high enough.

It was good enough for spending 11 days in the tunnels on the Batangan Peninsula and capturing 41 VC.

It ought to suffice for sitting in a chair and playing video games or writing code.


24 posted on 02/13/2013 2:01:02 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: jagusafr

The people shot and injured or killed in Fort worth cannot even get a Purple Heart, but they are going to give Computer geeks a medal.

This is a new America,


25 posted on 02/13/2013 2:15:06 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Mad Dawgg
“....is a slap in the face to people who have risked it all to serve their country and received such”

That is their plan. Incrementally destroying the military and the country.

26 posted on 02/13/2013 2:16:55 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Mad Dawgg
Since this is all driven by Obama's Drone program, why not use a symbol that everyone associates with Obama anyhow...this leaf:


27 posted on 02/13/2013 2:23:53 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Venturer

Paper cuts, carpal tunnel, coffee stains...oh the horror.

not to mention the brutal commute to base.


28 posted on 02/13/2013 2:24:40 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Finally, keyboard warriors will be honored.


29 posted on 02/13/2013 2:27:18 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: bigbob

Sorry, that symbol already represents the b(l)ooming underground economy.


30 posted on 02/13/2013 2:31:17 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

This group needs an appropriate shoulder patch as well

“Chairborne Ranger”


31 posted on 02/13/2013 3:33:53 PM PST by Makana (Today's solution is tomorrow's problem.)
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To: jagusafr
Sorry, FRiend. You're right, they're nowhere near harm's way. They're not even in theater. But it's true. Read it and weep
32 posted on 02/13/2013 3:49:09 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: stormer

If there were no janitors at the Pentagon generals couldn’t relieve themselves in comfort while they wage war. Where is the medal for meritorious toilet scrubbing?


33 posted on 02/13/2013 4:28:28 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Don’t know if you’ve served, but let me tell you, there are a lot of thankless jobs in the military. And while the jobs may be thankless, the folks that perform them are every bit as dedicated and mission critical as the task of the guy pulling a trigger with the enemy in his sights.


34 posted on 02/13/2013 10:22:07 PM PST by stormer
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To: stormer

I’m not even sure Pentagon janitors are in the miilitary. And no, not every military job is “mission critical,” let alone as critical as the men in the field. The military is so damn big; much of ot has nothing whatsoever to do with combat, and the staff might as well be in the Department of Education. Armies have their Big Government, pencil pushing make-work, too.

Certainly not everyone is equally dedicated. Pretending they are is an insult to the ones who actually are dedicated. Even among janitors there are more and less dedicated workers.


35 posted on 02/14/2013 9:23:28 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Just wait till janitors have a movie about them: "Toilet Dark Thirty"


I'm just a cook

36 posted on 02/14/2013 10:40:11 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"Pentagon is creating a medal that can be awarded to troops who have a direct impact on combat operations, but do it from afar."

Something like an IED?
37 posted on 02/15/2013 2:36:27 AM PST by clearcarbon
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