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Graham, Paul split on U.S. drone strikes, impact of upcoming $85B spending cuts
Fox News | Feb 17 2013 | FNS

Posted on 02/17/2013 3:44:04 PM PST by NoLibZone

op Senate Republicans disagreed Sunday over who should authorize drone strikes on Americans suspected of terrorism.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., affirmed his position that a federal court, not President Obama, should make the decision, while Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told “Fox News Sunday” that having a court decide would be “the worst thing in the world.”

The issue of using unmanned aircraft, known as drones, has been a controversial issue since Americans learned last year that Obama was secretly and personally ordering such strikes.

The issue returned to the forefront last week when the president agreed to give House and Senate intelligence committees access to a classified legal opinion on using drones to kill U.S. terror suspects on foreign soil.

Paul, also on "Fox News Sunday," attempted to clarify his position. He said he was “primarily” focused on Americans on U.S. soil but also concerned about Americans abroad.

He said Americans suspected of terrorism should have their day in court before a “hell fire” missile comes at them.

“If you have a grenade launcher on your shoulder and firing at Americans, by all means,” Paul said.

Obama also said last week there has never been a drone strike on a U.S. citizen on American soil and that he will work with Congress on a way to be more open with the public about the U.S. drone program.

However, Paul said he was concerned about Obama saying only that he doesn’t “intend” to use domestic drone strikes.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/17/graham-paul-split-on-us-drone-strikes-impact-upcoming-85b-spending-cuts/#ixzz2LCcBDdMf


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assassinations; drones; obamadrones
The left has finally agreed with the right on use of assassinations to win wars.

Well, at least as long as its them doing the assassinating.

1 posted on 02/17/2013 3:44:09 PM PST by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Graham’s response to obama’s ability to use drones was very disturbing this morning. He seems to “trust” obama in his CIC role to do what is right.

This morning, Rand Paul brought up Brennan’s testimony in which Brennan claimed obama had the authority based on powers already given to him (I believe from authorizing going in to Afghanistan), and that those powers had no “geographical limits”. Geographical limits??????? sounds like the US is not off limits for drone strikes on anyone as long as it can be justified to be “terror related”.


2 posted on 02/17/2013 3:50:53 PM PST by Girlene
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To: NoLibZone

Let me see if I understand this.
A judge has to approve wire tapping and electronic surveillance. But the government wouldn’t need judicial approval to use drones as surveillance, possibly even killing citizens?

Isn’t that a lop-sided argument on priorities?


3 posted on 02/17/2013 3:52:54 PM PST by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: NoLibZone
while Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told “Fox News Sunday” that having a court decide [that assassinating AMERICANS] would be “the worst thing in the world.”

Yeah, accountability sucks ass.

I see no daylight between Lindsey Graham's positions and the positions of the most ardent, freakishly leftist pol.

4 posted on 02/17/2013 3:56:17 PM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: NoLibZone

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or
indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual
service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in
jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be
deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use,
without just compensation


5 posted on 02/17/2013 4:04:04 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: NoLibZone
"Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told “Fox News Sunday” that having a court decide would be “the worst thing in the world.” "

Nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

6 posted on 02/17/2013 4:07:17 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: NoLibZone

“That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”

Absent that- or other- specific authorization the president, whoever he is, is constitutionally authorized to use military or other deadly force to protect the nation from imminent attack.

Assasination of Americans on foreign soil should be in consultation with members of congress just as any act of aggresion on foreign soil. It’s a diplomatic matter.

On American soil assassination would only be the result of attempted arrest and subject to judicial review.
But if the president has to do it he better do it and suffer the consequences.


7 posted on 02/17/2013 4:08:41 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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