Report: 47 Percent of Detroit Property Owners Pay No Taxes

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[chessplayer]

An estimated 47 percent of Detroit’s property owners pay no taxes, according to recent report from The Detroit News.

n fact, according to The News, delinquency in the shattered city is so bad that that 77 blocks had only one owner who paid taxes in 2012.

Yes, one person paid taxes in an area covering 77 blocks.

Many of the people interviewed by The News said that they don’t understand why they should pay into a system that has failed to provide them with basic public services.

“Why pay taxes?” asked Fred Phillips, who owes more than $2,600 on his home. “Why should I send them taxes when they aren’t supplying services? It

[taildragger]

OK....What did Romeny know about this, and when did he know it....:-)...

Go over to the FR banned Detroit News and the Free Press to see the stories and results of the Governor's Commission to look into Detroit and how messed up it is.

14.9 Billion in Debt.

Most of it Pensions, it is GM all over again, and a pre-cursor to Fedzilla's Collapse of it's Legacy Entitlements.

Emergency Manager or Bankruptcy soon for Detroit, it will not go over well...

[Tea Party Terrorist]

Politicians think of Government (Local, State and Federal) as a jobs program for their constituents. Philadelphia, for instance, has half the population of 40 yrs ago, but 5 times the amount of Gov’t workers.

Worry not though, because you can’t have your cake and eat it too and the day of reckoning is coming.

[taildragger]

The fact is that things are looking a lot brighter for Detroit than they have in a long time and its because Detroit is increasingly under the control of republican held state government. Big money buyers are buying up the riverfront for development within easy reach of the new bridge.

Think out of the box CC....

What if...

The "Antrim" Shale Formation is not just out by Jackson and is all SE Michigan like some maps I have seen show it.

What if their is gobs of Natural Gas under Detwaa? Long story about a friend of a friend who is out at Bakken in regards to this thought..

[goldstategop]

Detroit is a city where property is so overvalued it ain’t worth much - and it doesn’t bring in tax revenue.

I keep having to find reasons to like Detroit.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

America lost its’ War on Poverty and War on Drugs. Now cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price.

More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).

In the war of Left verses right these cities are the first ones that the left claimed victory.

Could be. I'm not sure how that relates to the discussion.

[cripplecreek]

We know the antrim formation contains gas and oil under all of lower Michigan. Now we need to lift that idiotic and pointless great lakes directional drilling ban. There is definitely some oil under Detroit in fact every single county in lower Michigan has wells.

A Canadian company bought and reopened the salt mine and the state legislature has changed the tax structure of mining operations to make it easier to operate.

I was watching a video of Rick Snyder at the Detroit chamber of commerce and they were saying some very interesting things about what they would like to do. Basically what these big corporate heads were saying was "Give us a favorable business environment, and we'll rebuild Detroit."

People need to understand that Detroit is in a unique and near perfect spot for business. Its in the heart of industrial America with infrastructure designed for heavy industry with the heart of Canadian industry right across the river. Its the second busiest freight crossing on the continent.



Big business is not blind to the growth of upper midwest mining, the confluence of freight transportation arteries, and attractive business partners across the river. Now that the second bridge will be built, shippers are already celebrating the fact that the bottleneck will be eased.

[Beagle8U]

“More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).”

Bull$hit! Make drugs legal and the dysfunctional idiots in Detoilet will find something else to kill each-other over.

Most are illiterates with no skills or education. They will either sell drugs to buy sneakers, rims, and gold teeth, or will steal from you to buy them.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

More precisely: cities like Detroit and Chicago are paying the price for America having even waged the inherently unwinnable War on Poverty and War on Drugs - which fostered dependency (WoP), and hyperinflated drug profits and channeled those profits into criminal hands (WoD).

Bull$hit! Make drugs legal and the dysfunctional idiots in Detoilet will find something else to kill each-other over.

Show me where I said legalization would end killing. What it will end is the hyperinflation of drug profits and channeling of those profits into criminal hands. I support taking resources away from criminals - maybe you feel differently.

[Beagle8U]

“Most of it Pensions, it is GM all over again, and a pre-cursor to Fedzilla’s Collapse of it's Legacy Entitlements.”

The worst part of that is the state is on the hook for 100% of those pensions per the state constitution. Bankruptcy won't ever get rid of the debt. And that goes for all public sector pensions!

[Beagle8U]

All making drugs legal is make them legal.

Every single dime in the criminals pockets will still be there along with all the crime. They will just do something else to get money without working.

Legal drugs solves nothing and would likely just cost taxpayers more.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

Show me where I said legalization would end killing. What it will end is the hyperinflation of drug profits and channeling of those profits into criminal hands. I support taking resources away from criminals - maybe you feel differently.

Every single dime in the criminals pockets will still be there along with all the crime. They will just do something else to get money without working.

That's clearly wrong. If there was any other way to make as much money with as little work, they'd already be doing it. Legalization will take a bite out of crime just as ending Prohibition of the drug alcohol did:

"The lush traffic in alcohol beverages during the violent years of 1920 to 1933 had laid the base of organization for a number of criminal gangs. The termination of the ban on liquor deprived these gangs of their most lucrative source of money" - Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce

[3clean]

The big difference between Chitown and the D is that Chicago still has viberance in the downtown. It became too dangerous for citizens to commute in to and out of Detroit by the 80s..... That has never ben the case in Chicago, all you hear of is the shootings on the news but it isnt happening to “citizens” just the underclass, ie Obama’s people. Detroit became something like a place where urbanites had rights to steal, kill, and rape suburbanites when they were stupid enough to go down town for fireworks or a free concert.....Chicago is really still a jem. The D is a ruin filled with “residents” that are intent on burning down there own homes and stealing anything they can....Just like a few of there ex-mayor.

[Beagle8U]

“”The lush traffic in alcohol beverages during the violent years of 1920 to 1933 had laid the base of organization for a number of criminal gangs. The termination of the ban on liquor deprived these gangs of their most lucrative source of money” - Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce”

Well, clearly there is no money in drug crime then, you solved that when alcohol became legal again. / eyeroll.

[JustSayNoToNannies]

”The lush traffic in alcohol beverages during the violent years of 1920 to 1933 had laid the base of organization for a number of criminal gangs. The termination of the ban on liquor deprived these gangs of their most lucrative source of money” - Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce

Well, clearly there is no money in drug crime then, you solved that when alcohol became legal again. / eyeroll.

No, that's you babbling. When the drug alcohol became legal, there was no more money in alcohol crime; when other drugs become legal, there will be no more money in drug crime. What part of this are you finding difficult to understand?

[Responsibility2nd]

Detroit's outlook falls along with home prices

January 29, 2009|By Tim Jones, Tribune correspondent

 

DETROIT — It may be tough to get financing for a new car these days, but in Detroit you can buy a house with a credit card.

The median price of a home sold in Detroit in December was $7,500, according to Realcomp, a listing service.

Not $75,000. Remove a zero -- it's seven thousand five hundred dollars, substantially less than the lowest-price car on the new-car market.

 

[publius911]

Many of the people interviewed by The News said that they don’t understand why they should pay into a system that has failed to provide them with basic public services.

I might agree with their reasoning, but first I need to know if they stopped paying taxes before or after the basic public services stopped.

Personally, I would welcome the deletion of 80% of my city's "services." Seriously.
Reality. Most of the people who scream for public services pay no property taxes or income taxes.

[publius911]

In Texas, it's because your property will be sold at auction if you don't pay the taxes.

That's funny. Really.

I'm sure in Detroit that's also true.
What are they gonna do?
Who WANTS to buy anything there?
What are the authorities gonna do? Post police at every defaulted home to prevent the owner from squattinG in their own foreclosed home?

R-I-G-H-T-!

Smell the coffee, Dude! Utilities? Who needs utilities? Sanitation and garbage pick-up? who needs that?
Have you seen pictures of the place?

This is the end game waiting for every city and town which thinks they can support the HUGE bloated bureaucracy (the other welfare,)75% of the population at the expense of the remaining 25%!

[taildragger]

The worst part of that is the state is on the hook for 100% of those pensions per the state constitution. Bankruptcy won't ever get rid of the debt. And that goes for all public sector pensions!

Please explain this, this is news to me, how is the State on the hook for a Muni Pension Debt?

[Beagle8U]

There isn't much to explain except that the state constitution says that all public pensions are guaranteed by the state. So state taxpayers are on the hook for the debt.

Counties, townships, and cities are only allowed to be formed under direction of the state. I guess that is why they put that in the constitution?