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The Deadly Opposition to Genetically Modified Food
Slate .com via Instapundit.com ^ | February 18, 2013 | Bjorn Lomberg

Posted on 02/22/2013 10:52:31 AM PST by CharlesMartelsGhost

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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Proud to be a Luddite, if that means foods that don’t have non-plant genes inserted into their DNA.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 1:01:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: goldstategop

“Apparently you must like food slathered with chemicals that are more dangerous than genes that combat pest infestation of the foods you eat.”

... So in your world there are only bad option?


22 posted on 02/22/2013 1:05:53 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Who cares about a few million blind kids when when the earth is being saved by the anti-Gm food lobby?

Like it was saved by the anti-DDT lobby.


23 posted on 02/22/2013 1:06:07 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: OneWingedShark
As you said: Just because something has a basis in something simpler, or is an improvement doesn't mean it's not a new invention.
24 posted on 02/22/2013 1:19:35 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: goldstategop
Making crops pest-resistant

Except the way Monsanto does that is making the plants more pesticide/herbicide tolerant so the farmers can spray MORE pesticide/herbicide on the plants to resist pests. But, guess what? The pests are becoming more pesticide/herbicide resistant and there is more pesticide/herbicide in the food we eat.

Nearly Half of All US Farms Now Have Superweeds

But of course there's another way. In a 2012 study I'll never tire of citing, Iowa State University researchers found that if farmers simply diversified their crop rotations, which typically consist of corn one year and soy the next, year after year, to include a "small grain" crop (e.g. oats) as well as off season cover crops, weeds (including Roundup-resistant ones) can be suppressed with dramatically less fertilizer use—a factor of between 6 and 10 less. And much less herbicide means much less poison entering streams—"potential aquatic toxicity was 200 times less in the longer rotations" than in the regular corn-soy regime, the study authors note. So, despite what the seed giants and the conventional weed specialists insist, there are other ways to respond to the accelerating scourge of "superweeds" than throwing more—and ever-more toxic—chemicals at them.

India's Rice Revolution

Kumar, a shy young farmer in Nalanda district of India's poorest state Bihar, had – using only farmyard manure and without any herbicides – grown an astonishing 22.4 tonnes of rice on one hectare of land. This was a world record and with rice the staple food of more than half the world's population of seven billion, big news.

It beat not just the 19.4 tonnes achieved by the "father of rice", the Chinese agricultural scientist Yuan Longping, but the World Bank-funded scientists at the International Rice Research Institute in the Philippines, and anything achieved by the biggest European and American seed and GM companies. And it was not just Sumant Kumar. Krishna, Nitish, Sanjay and Bijay, his friends and rivals in Darveshpura, all recorded over 17 tonnes, and many others in the villages around claimed to have more than doubled their usual yields.

The villagers, at the mercy of erratic weather and used to going without food in bad years, celebrated. But the Bihar state agricultural universities didn't believe them at first, while India's leading rice scientists muttered about freak results. The Nalanda farmers were accused of cheating. Only when the state's head of agriculture, a rice farmer himself, came to the village with his own men and personally verified Sumant's crop, was the record confirmed.

GMO fail: Monsanto foiled by feds, Supreme Court, and science

This matters because stacked-trait crops are a favored approach to combat the superweeds and bugs that are part and parcel of years of GMO crops. But the more you stack, the worse your yield. The scientists also found evidence of a “yield penalty” that comes simply from the act of manipulating plant genes.

In short, the more one meddles with plant genes, the worse yields get; when you change multiple genes at once, yields drop even further. This should give pause to those who see GMO seeds as the means to address more complex problems like drought tolerance, nutritional value, or plant productivity. These are traits involving dozens, if not hundreds, of genes. This study suggests genetic manipulation of food crops at such a scale is a losing game.

A few years ago, the Union of Concerned Scientists published a report with a similar conclusion, but this is one of the first rigorous attempts to establish through controlled experiments the yield benefit (or penalty) of GM seeds.

As Challenge over Seed Rights Approaches Supreme Court, New Report Exposes Devastating Impact of Monsanto Practices on U.S. Farmers

The new report investigates how the current seed patent regime has led to a radical shift to consolidation and control of global seed supply and how these patents have abetted corporations, such as Monsanto, to sue U.S. farmers for alleged seed patent infringement.

Seed Giants vs. U.S. Farmers also examines broader socio-economic consequences of the present patent system including links to loss of seed innovation, rising seed prices, reduction of independent scientific inquiry, and environmental issues.

Debbie Barker, Program Director for Save Our Seeds and Senior Writer for the Report, said today: “Corporations did not create seeds and many are challenging the existing patent system that allows private companies to assert ownership over a resource that is vital to survival, and that, historically, has been in the public domain.”


25 posted on 02/22/2013 2:06:31 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost
"They show that golden rice is even better than spinach in providing vitamin A to children."

Oh, well, don't mention carrots while continuing the work of Malthus and trying to outlaw private gardens.


26 posted on 02/22/2013 2:09:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

This is the dumbest article I’ve ever read on FR. Vitamin A deficiencies are caused by evil governments and cultures that cause poverty and starvation among their people. Spreading Frankenfoods won’t help starving kids in Zimbabwe, Somalia or Bangladesh? This stupid article is what happens when a corporation hires a liberal democrat for public relations.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 3:25:14 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Mr. Lucky
As you said: Just because something has a basis in something simpler, or is an improvement doesn't mean it's not a new invention.

I'm unconvinced that things like a infertility/self-destruct gene are improvements... especially when for ALL of human history farmers have kept seeds for "next-year's crop".

28 posted on 02/22/2013 9:14:32 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Farmers who agree with you are wholly free to continue to propagate heirloom seeds; but, you'll have a hard time finding any serious farmers who agree with you.

Prior to the introduction of Round Up ready seeds, There was no economical/efficacious soybean herbicide: soybeans were weeded mechanically. Tillage encouraged erosion, increased moisture loss, damaged the crop, and was back breakingly laborious.

29 posted on 02/25/2013 6:14:40 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
Farmers who agree with you are wholly free to continue to propagate heirloom seeds; but, you'll have a hard time finding any serious farmers who agree with you.

Not so; there have been instances where [possible] wind-borne pollination from neighboring GMO crops have led to the legal persecution of their owner. -- This is especially damaging for any farm which raises "natural organic" produce, as even the pollination from GMOs destroys the legitimacy [and results in legal liability IIUC] of their labeling the produce as such. (So if you decide to go with an organic crop, catering to a small, specialized customer, but your buddy-across-the-road doesn't [and uses the GMO] and there is cross pollination you could be in trouble from two directions: copyright infringement from the corporate, and fraud suits from your customers.)

Prior to the introduction of Round Up ready seeds, There was no economical/efficacious soybean herbicide: soybeans were weeded mechanically. Tillage encouraged erosion, increased moisture loss, damaged the crop, and was back breakingly laborious.

And? Does the added convenience of such negate the rights of those farmers that do it the traditional way?

30 posted on 02/25/2013 6:51:08 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
This thread seems to have become the proverbial dead horse which we've beaten enough, but the "wind-borne pollen story never withstands scrutiny.

First of all, soybeans are largely self pollinating; that is, the pollen transfers from the stamen to the pistil before the bean blossoms. While some pollen can become windborne, and fertilize the pistil of a different plant, it's the exeception, not the rule.

But, let's assume that the chances were 50-50 that the bean would be pollinated by a different plant and let's ignore that the likelyhood of one plant being pollinated by another decreases geometrically with distance, the odds of an advantageous trait accidentally transferring from one field to another would be so low as to be mathmatically impossible. (keep in mind that the Round Up ready trait provides no benefit unless it is found in virtually all beans in the same field).

There are about 180,000 soybeans in a bushel, an average yield would be about 50 bushels per acre and a typical field maybe 40 acres. So, 360,000,000 soybeans would be a fair test population.

Just as heads wouldn't innocently turn up each time in 360,000,000 coin flips, virtually all of 360,000,000 million soybeans wouldn't be cross pollinated by a neighbor's field.

31 posted on 02/25/2013 8:20:05 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
First of all, soybeans are largely self pollinating; that is, the pollen transfers from the stamen to the pistil before the bean blossoms. While some pollen can become windborne, and fertilize the pistil of a different plant, it's the exeception, not the rule.

And yet it's because of this possibility, exceptional though it might be, that the big companies are able to intimidate and extort the small farmers. But it needn't simply be soybeans: it could be corn, apples, heck anything.

But, let's assume that the chances were 50-50 [...]

You are concentrating on one thing: stupid soybeans.
That is not the issue at hand; the issue is: these companies are laying a [legal] groundwork to seize control of food production at the lowest levels. -- Indeed to even make traditional [heirloom] plantings a liability.

32 posted on 02/25/2013 8:40:33 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
I used soybeans as the example because they are open pollinated. Corn, whether GMO or not, is hybridized and, therefore, its seed cannot be preserved and replanted.

Commerical seed companies so dominate the market for farm crop seed because their product is so far superior to heirloom seeds that, with the exception of some silage corn, no serious farmer plants open pollinated seed, not because of some nefarious conspiracy.

In the 1930's my grandfather, who in virtually every respect was a better farmer than I, could expect a yield of about 25 bushels per acre from heirloom open pollinated corn; on the same field, I now obtain 200 bushels per acre with triple stacked hybrids.

33 posted on 02/25/2013 9:22:03 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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