...admit that you were cringeing at what lay ahead at the end of the post!
Just for you:
(It's required; you know...)
Posted on 02/22/2013 11:29:21 AM PST by Colofornian
Perhaps our FR mormons can tell us just WHY the high mucky-mucks above SLC do NOT consider the vast work done by JS (in following god’s command in CORRECTING & REWRITING the KJV bible) NOT to be Scripture, and STILL continue to use the flawed KJV instead??
That’s just it. They can say “If the Gentile men want to marry each other, we agree” without supporting gay marriage for Mormons.
It’s like saying in the 1960’s “It’s OK for blacks to eat with whites but we don’t allow it in our restaurants”.
...admit that you were cringeing at what lay ahead at the end of the post!
Just for you:
(It's required; you know...)
Speaking of 'blacks'....
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
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August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson "The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood. According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented. |
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
So dont deal with it then. And you wonder why we had issues with Romney around here.
Didn’t everyone already know that Huntsman is a squirrel?
I only met one Huntsman supporter in 2012, and it was after he dropped out. Some guy on Facebook sends me a friend request and says he's a "pro-life, Catholic conservative" and would be interested in networking with me because "it sounds like you and I have a shared worldview"
I add the guy and aside from being pro-life and pro-traditional marriage, he's an left-wing socialist on everything else (tree hugger, more social programs for all, guns are bad, etc.) His Facebook wall was full of rants about how terrible it was that "the only reasonable Republican candidate" Huntsman dropped out, and bashing all the other Republicans as "heartless thugs" because they're against amnesty. He started babbling on about how the Federation for American Immigration Reform is a "front group" for Planned Parenthood (his "proof" was that pro-choice Republican Brian Bilbray happens to one of FAIR's many board members) He had a bunch of followers on his page, mostly illegal aliens and "anti-poverty" advocates, who eagerly gobble up all his talk points and proceeded to attack me (they loved to drop the F bomb) because I offered a different viewpoint.
Dude lasted 24 hours before I had enough of his insults and unfriended him. If he's typical of other "Huntsman supporters", there's no doubt why the guy was polling > 1%. Since he claims to be pro-traditional marriage I'd love to ask him what he thinks about his boy Huntsman now. He'd probably make excuses for him. (like his "socially conservative" illegal alien buddies in Maryland who just helped pass "marriage benefits" for gay illegals)
John Huntsman: Back to Polygamy, right? Or why NOT, John?
Oh...I think Huntsman's trying to be a catalyst for bringing Brother Bruce's "Mormon apostolic prophecy" into fruition:
"Obviously the holy practice" [of plural marriage] "will commence again after the Second Coming of the Son of Man and the ushering in of the millennium." Plural Marriage entry in Lds 'apostle' book Mormon Doctrine
Click on link ... takes you to entry for "plural marriage"...If you want to see all that in FULL context, here is the link for his book MORMON DOCTRINE in its entirety! Mormon Doctrine
(Ask Mormon wives you know what they think about their hubbies sleeping with other women after the Mormon jesus returns...see how that sits with them...and if they don't like it, see if they have the forthrightness in them to label McConkie a "false prophet..." 'Cause if they can't do that, then perhaps they should order a bigger bed)
Who'd do THAT???
It seems to be very DAMNED dangerous!!!
This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:
"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."Don't criticize?
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Who'd do THAT???
It seems to be very DAMNED dangerous!!!
This is the audio clip of Dallin H. Oaks, current Mormon Apostle leader, from the PBS documentary, "The Mormons", declaring unequivocally:
"IT'S WRONG TO CRITICIZE LEADERS OF THE (MORMON) CHURCH, EVEN IF THE CRITICISM IS TRUE."Don't criticize?
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
(Good reminder)
I’m shocked (shocked !) that a supporter of (C)Huntsman’s would be that way. And you met him on Facebook ? Is there a bigger hive of scum and villainy around (Not counting Demonic Underworld) ?
“Since it’s the “road to polygamy and polyandry,” sounds regressive (as in 19th century) to me!”
I agree. The only way I could see a “devout” mormon being for same sex marriage would be if he was hoping for it to pave the way to polygamy.
LOL @ headline. If Jonny is a conservative, I’m an aardvark.
He makes Romney look like Jesse Helms, he’s on the John Anderson express, in a few years time he’ll be a democrat and doctrinaire liberal.
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We need either a totally new party, or to take over the R party. That is if we can ever have elections not stolen/tainted by massive voter fraud. Freaks like Huntsman need to shut up and go away.
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Hi Colofornian, glad to see you. : )
Hi Colofornian, glad to see you. : )
Hello, LJ. Thanks for keeping up with the ping list. how’s things goig? What are you canning at the moment.
We have a mess of tomatoes, carrots and broccli from the garden right now What a treat. Soon, we will be swimming in advacodos and figs! Then oranges and lemons. It so much fun and tastey work. Chichens are coming up. I don’ twant them but my honey reeeeeally wants the girls.
God bless you and I have you on my prayer list. : )
Where on earth do you live?? FL or HI??
It was 27 this morning when I got up...
Hub is serious about a garden this year, finally. ‘Cause he’s been doing the shopping... So he’s outside cutting more trees as I type.
I’ve been slack with pinging due to various factors including flu twice (or something that is cleverly disguised as flu) and I just never get everything done...
Avos and figs. I am now drooling. It’s a good thing I can all the fruit I can get my hands on every summer or we’d have hardly any fruit to eat. Drinking home canned (or jarred, actually) juice regularly - apple, green grape, concord grape, plum, peach...mixtures some of them. And tomatoe juice. Hub likes jam, I’m not so into the sweet stuff. Blackberry slurry is popular, less sugar than jam and it has many uses. I add very hot water and it’s a nice drink.
Thank you for all prayers.
I just can’t believe what’s happening. It’s like a horrible nightmare...
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