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TX:Family fights back when 3 gunmen storm their home; one intruder shot
khou.com ^ | 22 February, 2012 | Tim Wetzel and Staff

Posted on 02/24/2013 8:42:20 AM PST by marktwain

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To: bgill
“I thought we were only supposed to need 2-4 rounds to take down home intruders”

We have been told by Biden how many shells we need - two for a shotgun and shoot it outside the house and the zombies will run away.

According to Biden, I'm doing it all wrong: I have 36 cartridges loaded and ready to shoot. Darn, I wish I had listened to Biden. :o) Biden is dumb as a stump.

21 posted on 02/24/2013 11:12:39 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: RJS1950

That is when a laser designator sight is invaluable...


22 posted on 02/24/2013 11:58:05 AM PST by expat2
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To: heshtesh
The only sad part to this story is the fact he did’nt kill the other 2.:)

It's puzzling that there is no mention of the "young boy" who started the entire inident.
Voluntary participant?
Forced to participate?
Escaped?

What?

23 posted on 02/24/2013 12:02:17 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: bgill
That would be 6 rounds to stop one of the 3 bad guys. Wow, I thought we were only supposed to need 2-4 rounds to take down home intruders.

Biden, our Official National Clown, asserts that if you need more than one shot to protect yourself, you deserve to die... By extrapolation, three shots max to deal with three criminals, his 8 shot magazine is all you'd ever need.

Can't fix stupid.

24 posted on 02/24/2013 12:08:26 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: flaglady47
Tell that to Chicago and Detroit, LOL!

Detroit leads the nation in justified homicide ie self defense.

However the justifiable homicides are mixed in with the murder numbers to "puff up" the numbers for gun grabber groups.

25 posted on 02/24/2013 12:29:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: Mr. K
Thats whay I got a 410 shotgun for indoor home defense- it shouldn’t take out any structural walls the way a 12 guage might

Now that there's lots of ammo options, Here Come De Judge!

I carry it in the car as an anti car-jacker - with Winchester PDXI ammo:

As the French say, "FORMIDABLE!"

You reminded me to get another one for the house instead of my 38 snubbie.

26 posted on 02/24/2013 12:33:48 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Mr. K
A follow-up on my last post. Just ran into THIS interesting web page which showed target spreads with handguns and shotguns using various loads.
27 posted on 02/24/2013 12:41:42 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Gaffer
If the suspects had been white, the media story would have led with that! You know what’s going on here.

Sure, I know what's going on here, you were too lazy to watch the video and jumped off the cliff to conclusions.......

28 posted on 02/24/2013 12:42:18 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Rebelbase

Your sarcasm is warranted. No sense in our being racists just because the leftists are racist.


29 posted on 02/24/2013 12:45:43 PM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Slump Tester
What are the odds of the perps being white? (Or even legals for that matter?)

Since I took the time to watch the video, I'd say 100%. Care to bet against me or would you rather take this time to remove your foot from your mouth?

30 posted on 02/24/2013 12:46:12 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Mr. K
Thats why I got a 410 shotgun for indoor home defense- it shouldn’t take out any structural walls the way a 12 guage might.

The problem with any shotgun is when you go around a corner or go thru a doorway the shotgun will protrude and allow a perp to grab it.

31 posted on 02/24/2013 12:48:58 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: RoosterRedux

A white guy with glasses being apprehended for a home invasion means: drugs.

White
+
Prescription Glasses

Sure, white guys do regular burglary home invasions, but white guys with glasses just do them for drugs.


32 posted on 02/24/2013 12:52:08 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
but white guys with glasses just do them for drugs.

Or collectible computer equipment.


33 posted on 02/24/2013 1:02:16 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: tbpiper

I think a DB shotgun would have handled the situation just fine. You just better not miss with your first round when you’ve got three opponents.

Plug the first one and threaten the other two. Although they are generally tearing out the door at that point.

I think an auto or pump shotgun would be a better idea.

I’m not clear why everybody’s all over Biden for his remarks. Lots of gun types think shotguns are the right first choice for home defense, though admittedly few would recommend a double-barrel.


34 posted on 02/24/2013 1:07:19 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Oatka

I’m a first time gun buyer...looking for home piece. I am looking at a 9mm conceal or the Judge. Still up in the air right now. I like what I see with the Judge.


35 posted on 02/24/2013 1:13:22 PM PST by oust the louse (You need your parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.)
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To: oust the louse
. . . looking for home piece. I am looking at a 9mm conceal or the Judge. Still up in the air right now. I like what I see with the Judge.

IMO, you can't beat the Judge for home defense, or other close range situations. Check THIS out on YouTube.

The cups have the impact of a three 32 Auto rounds, BUT, he now has a LOT of holes in him and is leaking pretty bad. And, the shot won't penetrate walls and take out the neighbor.

36 posted on 02/24/2013 1:35:54 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I’m not clear why everybody’s all over Biden for his remarks.

Because Biden starts out being a fool and then gets rapidly worse. Generally Biden's advice was to fire two waring shots and the problem would go away. That would leave you with an empty gun and a perp completly unharmed and totaly dangerous if he still had the intent.

In this case, in a home with perps intespersed with loved one,a weapon with more traget disgression than a shotgun is more appropriate.

37 posted on 02/24/2013 1:42:21 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: Sherman Logan
According to Uncle Joe the homeowner should have walked outside and fired 2 rounds randomly into the air.

People are all over Joe about this because his statement was stupid. That this idiot is a heartbeat away from the presidency is truly scary.

38 posted on 02/24/2013 1:49:07 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: tbpiper
In this case, in a home with perps intespersed with loved one,a weapon with more traget disgression than a shotgun is more appropriate.

Most of your points are fine, but this is just silly. Most gunfights within a home would take place at no more than 25' or so, usually less. At such ranges shot, even with a cylinder choke, just doesn't disperse much. With most loads I suspect you would get a pattern only 4" to 8" across at most, which doesn't really pose much of a threat to your family.

I'm perfectly willing to agree there are lots of times a rifle such as the AR-15 is better for defense than a shotgun, but inside a home or at other really short ranges I don't think there is any real advantage.

39 posted on 02/24/2013 1:54:18 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Eagles6

I agree the specifics were dumb, but some comments seem to take him to task for saying a shotgun is a better choice for home defense than an AR-15, which is I believe a perfectly defensible position.

You may disagree, but it’s not a stupid opinion.


40 posted on 02/24/2013 2:28:15 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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