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1 posted on 02/25/2013 6:45:51 PM PST by Hojczyk
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What happened to the Golden State?

Liberalism (I know, I know ... Mr. Obvious strikes again)

2 posted on 02/25/2013 6:54:10 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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Made the Fools Gold State by the DummyRATS/LibTurds.


3 posted on 02/25/2013 6:54:24 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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The takers killed the goose.


4 posted on 02/25/2013 6:54:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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This is Obama's dream for all America


5 posted on 02/25/2013 6:55:40 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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CA has passed the tipping point. There is no return. Even when it finally crashes, it can’t be rebuilt, because the same cast of characters that brought it down will still be in place. CA will become a third world state.


6 posted on 02/25/2013 6:55:56 PM PST by umgud
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We should be building a fence between California and America.


7 posted on 02/25/2013 6:56:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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bttt


8 posted on 02/25/2013 6:57:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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What’s wrong?

In a word: Marxism.

The people of California mistakenly believe they can use Marx’s ideas to help the middle class.

But that’s as insane as arguing you can use Hitler’s ideas to help the Jews.

They’re antithetical philosophies.

Karl Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto as a recipe to get rid of the middle class. California has adopted his ideas - from a progressive tax code to doing more things by hand to dissolving the border.

And then everyone wonders what happened?

So now you’re left with Communism: a rich, upper elite running a system for the happy little peasants.

Want the middle class back? You’ll have to dump the Marxism.

Good luck doing that in California.


9 posted on 02/25/2013 6:57:39 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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What happened to CA is the same thing that happened to New York. You have a high concentration of the population in an urban area that is very very liberal as well as huge “consumers” of government handouts and that same area has the population numbers to control the elections.

Like New York, California was once a great state.

Now both are so far gone, so screwed up and so in the hole that the only ending I see is a complete crash.

I don’t see where either one can be saved at this point.

The only hope for either one, IMHO, is if it plays out much like the ending of “Atlas Shrugged”.

I hope we survive long enough for the “way” (to be) “clear”.


11 posted on 02/25/2013 7:06:47 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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All obvious answere aside, from someone that lived through the period from splendor to squalor:

A massive influx of NY'rs in the 70's along with other northeast liberals, and of course the unchecked Mexican invasion. The illegals overloaded the system, and the new resident liberals refused all attempts to pass laws to control them.

Boxer is an excellent example of what invaded the state from the NE.

12 posted on 02/25/2013 7:07:06 PM PST by doorgunner69
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This story is 10 years overdue.


13 posted on 02/25/2013 7:12:58 PM PST by Adams (Fight on!)
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I’m sure that the vast majority of the current residents of Californicate are very happy with the current state of the “Golden State” ... or else they would change things.


14 posted on 02/25/2013 7:14:34 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The Progressive mind...an arid ethical and moral wasteland!)
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Leftists ruined it.


15 posted on 02/25/2013 7:14:48 PM PST by Trod Upon (The Second Amendment acknowledges our inherent right to revolt if tyrannized. It ain't about hunting)
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I noticed at the link, that this is a first installment of a four part article to appear over coming days. I look forward to the rest.


16 posted on 02/25/2013 7:15:34 PM PST by SpaceBar
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Thank God this lifelong right coaster's Cali vacation was in the summer of '81 (San Diego, Santa Monica, Morro Bay, Carmel, SF), not long before things began to get really rotten there. Don't know about other parts of the Golden State, but I like to think the 1984 Olympics was L.A.'s last hurrah.

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17 posted on 02/25/2013 7:18:35 PM PST by foreverfree
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dimorats and illegal aliens....other than that all is well


18 posted on 02/25/2013 7:20:42 PM PST by Nifster
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California will just keep doing the same as long as their checks are accepted.


20 posted on 02/25/2013 7:28:44 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Everyone should leave CA...There are no jobs, and the state and local governments are broke...Even the freebees are drying up....It's kinda like your federal government...LOL!

Listen, if everyone leaves, I'll stay and try and fix it, but it will take time...Someday I'll send word when everything is A-OK...oh yeah..

22 posted on 02/25/2013 7:37:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Look at the religious breakdown of the vote, and this was in an election heavy with pro-life issues.

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23 posted on 02/25/2013 7:48:40 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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What Happened to the Golden State?

Editorial in the San Francisco Chronicle:

Californians’ shifting views on illegal immigration
Sunday, February 24, 2013

In 1994, California voters passed Proposition 187, which sought to deny basic services to illegal immigrants. The controversial initiative (which was never implemented, as the courts declared it to be unconstitutional) was the canary in the coal mine for the rest of the nation on the topic of illegal immigration.

Within a decade, states and counties all over the nation were competing to see who could create the harshest anti-immigrant proposal.

But the latest Field Poll should alert the rest of the country about how swiftly the voters can change their minds on illegal immigration - and what that shift will mean for the nation’s politics.

The newest Field Poll shows that a whopping 90 percent of California voters now support offering a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who have lived for years in the United States and have stayed out of trouble.

There’s resounding support (76 percent) for guest-worker programs and for offering more visas to highly skilled immigrants (73 percent).

California voters are now so open to immigration that even still-controversial ideas, such as offering driver’s licenses to undocumented residents, get a thumbs-up - a 52 to 43 percent majority now favors issuing the licenses.

Sixty percent of voters believe that undocumented students should be allowed to pay the same tuition rates as other residents to attend public universities.

These are startling numbers. In many ways, they are good news - they show that California’s voters have grown more humane. After living and working among undocumented immigrants for two decades, they accept that the people who have made their lives here deserve a place here, paperwork or not.

While Californians still dislike illegal immigration - the poll also notes that 65 percent of voters support increasing the number of federal agents on the U.S.-Mexico border, and 57 percent want strong penalties for those who hire illegal immigrants - they’ve clearly made a distinction between immigration as an issue and the immigrants themselves.

On a state level, this has been great for the Democratic Party. Although Proposition 187 propelled Republican governor Pete Wilson to re-election in 1994, support of anti-immigration positions became an albatross for the GOP in the ensuing decades. Today, two-thirds of the seats in both houses of the Legislature are held by Democrats. And as California’s demographics continue to shift away from older, whiter voters and toward a younger, more diverse electorate, the Republican Party may find itself more and more marginalized.

On a national level, the Republican Party is beginning to realize that it may suffer the same fate, which is why it’s trying so desperately to rehabilitate its image with Latino voters.

But California’s experience suggests that this rehabilitation will take more than delivering the same message in Spanish: It’s going to take a wholesale rethinking of many policies, including how the country handles the 11 million undocumented people already living within our borders. A path to citizenship isn’t just smart policy - in the long run, it’s smart politics, too.


28 posted on 02/25/2013 7:59:16 PM PST by artichokegrower
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