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Net providers begin warning of illegal downloads
Myfoxny.com/AP ^ | Monday, February 25, 2013 7:10 PM | ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press

Posted on 02/26/2013 4:36:57 AM PST by Mad Dawgg

WASHINGTON (AP) — Internet users who illegally share music, movies or television shows online could soon receive warning notices from the nation's five major Internet service providers.

The Copyright Alert System, organized by the recording and film industry, is being activated this week to target consumers using peer-to-peer software.

Under the new system, complaints will prompt an Internet service provider — such as Verizon or AT&T — to notify a customer whose Internet address has been detected sharing files illegally. A person will be given up to six opportunities to stop before the Internet provider will take more drastic steps, such as temporarily slowing their connection, or redirecting Internet traffic until they acknowledge they received a notice or review educational materials about copyright law.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News
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To: Mad Dawgg

My situation is a bit murky here... many of the games I would purchase are not offered here at all (or have a version that has no English)...

The ONLY option I have, is to get a pirated version :/


21 posted on 02/26/2013 8:31:29 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Oh... and what is with the “pirated TV shows”?!?! seriously?!


22 posted on 02/26/2013 8:32:54 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Mad Dawgg

so they have set up a PRIVATE court tribunal?

This scam is going to fail like the previous scam.


23 posted on 02/26/2013 8:35:10 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Why do I get the feeling that suddenly all such places would be tagged as ‘illegal sites’ since they are under no obligation to pay some to be created ‘fee’ to the US govt.



Not to mention the fact that USA is the ONLY country to tax citizens that are working OUTSIDE of the country :/
24 posted on 02/26/2013 8:36:38 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: All

GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY


25 posted on 02/26/2013 8:40:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Norm Lenhart

What wasn’t mentioned is that the MD5 is actually used to make sure that the file you downloaded IS the original file, not in any way modified...


26 posted on 02/26/2013 8:40:16 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: longtermmemmory
so they have set up a PRIVATE court tribunal?

That in no way deprives you of the option of suing your ISP for breach of contract. (Better read that contract first, though.)

This scam is going to fail like the previous scam.

If by "the previous scam" you mean the RIAA lawsuits, that was a whole 'nother animal.

27 posted on 02/26/2013 10:05:14 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Most guys would salt the zip, just in case. You create a file called ‘salt.text’, put a short random string of characters in it, and zip it up with the file you want to distribute. This guarantees that the signature if the zip will not be on file anywhere.

Of course, none of us honest guys would ever actually do anything like this, right?


28 posted on 02/26/2013 12:01:50 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
The deal was brokered by the White House.

"ISPs had balked at adopting a graduated response plan for years. But last month, CNET reported that the White House was instrumental in encouraging the parties to reach an agreement, sources with knowledge of the talks said at the time. President Obama has said intellectual property is important to the country's economy and has vowed to step up the fight against piracy and counterfeiting.

Obama to Big Media: "The Justice Dept. will not hammer you for skipping due process as long as you stuff my campaign coffers full of cash." (Why else do you think they waited to start implementation until AFTER the election! They've had the agreement since Summer of 2011.)

29 posted on 02/26/2013 12:48:09 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: proxy_user

I’m as anti piracy as you’ll ever find. It’s just ridiculous any agency would waste effort on a sys so easily defeated. Almost a token effort to say they did something, one might think.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 12:51:27 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Mad Dawgg
This is a voluntary arrangement between copyright holders and Internet service providers - no government muscle involved.

the White House was instrumental in encouraging the parties to reach an agreement

Like I said.

31 posted on 02/26/2013 12:54:12 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: Mad Dawgg
due process

An issue in court proceedings, not in private actions pursuant to terms of contract.

32 posted on 02/26/2013 12:56:49 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
"An issue in court proceedings, not in private actions pursuant to terms of contract."

Ahhh they are accusing people of a crime. and then punishing them for it.

Either File sharing is illegal or it is not. The MPAA/RIAA lost numerous times in court TRYING to do the same thing they are doing now, only this time by bypassing due process. See the judges told them they had no case if they could not prove the ISP account holder was doing the downloading. The straw that broke the camels back and made the judges take notice is when the RIAA/MPAA sued a woman for filesharing in one year. Yet she had died over 12 months before that. Her wireless router was left on and people living close to her apt. used it to fileshare. The courts told them they had to obtain warrants and get forensic evidence of illegal files on the ISP customer's equipment or no dice. When they kept failing to get forensic evidence the cases got tossed.

Its not about a contract its about them circumventing the legal system.

Obama guaranteed his Justice Dept would not get involved. Even though what big media is doing falls under RICO.

If it was simply a contract dispute BIG MEDIA would have never went the legal route. Do you think if it were this easy they would have wasted all that time and money? The Bush Admin would have never allowed this. Without the Justice Dept scrutinizing every aspect of it.

Bottom line: "The ISPs nor the MPAA/RIAA nor the Justice dept. cannont see past the router without breaking the law, unless they get a warrant."

Now with the backing of the White House the RIAA/MPAA can accuse whomever they wish and the ISPs will shut the account down AND the only way to clear your name is to pony up cash!

33 posted on 02/26/2013 1:19:35 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Look, most internet userr are as dumb as dodos. They will catch plenty of people this way, so why worry about the smart ones?


34 posted on 02/26/2013 1:42:02 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

Which won’t work on compressed and encrypted files.

So I give my encryption key to a few friends that I may (or may not) exchange movies with on my secure media server and no ones the wiser.


35 posted on 02/26/2013 1:48:20 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: proxy_user

I’m worried about the creation of another extra legal agency that will needlessly screw law abiding internet users.

The rest, I hope they get caught.


36 posted on 02/26/2013 1:55:21 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Mad Dawgg
An issue in court proceedings, not in private actions pursuant to terms of contract.

Ahhh they are accusing people of a crime.

No, a breach of contract.

The MPAA/RIAA lost numerous times in court TRYING to do the same thing they are doing now

Not the same thing - MPAA/RIAA were plaintiffs seeking damages, whereas ISPs will appear in court only if sued and then as defendants.

37 posted on 02/26/2013 2:11:43 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
OK How are they supposedly breaching the contract?
38 posted on 02/26/2013 3:11:47 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: TomGuy

It’s nothing more than Napster 2.0. The media companies were using the same strong arm tactics and abusing the judicial system and many innocent individuals ended up in the crosshairs of the RIAA. This is set up to fail like the last time. It’s intended to be exploited through proxies and VPN’s. It will just force the pirates to go further underground.


39 posted on 02/26/2013 4:17:20 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: Mad Dawgg
OK How are they supposedly breaching the contract?

My Agreement for Residential Services and Acceptable Use Policy state:

"prohibited uses and activities include, but are not limited to, using the Service, Customer Equipment, or the Comcast Equipment, either individually or in combination with one another, to [...] undertake or accomplish any unlawful purpose. This includes, but is not limited to, posting, storing, transmitting or disseminating information, data or material which [...] infringes the intellectual property rights of any person or entity [...] Comcast reserves the right immediately to suspend or terminate your Service account and terminate the Subscriber Agreement if you violate the terms of this Policy or the Subscriber Agreement."

"You will not use or permit another to use the Xfinity Equipment or the Service(s), directly or indirectly, for any unlawful purpose [...] You acknowledge that you are accepting this Agreement on behalf of all persons who use the Xfinity Equipment and/or Services at the Premises and that you shall have sole responsibility for ensuring that all other users understand and comply with the terms and conditions of this Agreement and any applicable Comcast policies."

40 posted on 02/27/2013 7:33:46 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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