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S. E. Cupp Withdraws from CPAC in Support of Same-Sex Marriage (video)
National Review ^ | February 26, 2013 | Andrew Johnson

Posted on 02/26/2013 1:18:27 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: norton
[I think that tolerance is in the Bible somewhere]

Actually, it is not in there 'somewhere'. We are not to judge someone's salvation, as that belongs to God, but we certainly should 'warn'. And to love a 'sinner' (and we are all sinners) is to warn them of the wrath to come if they do not repent.

What you will find in the Bible is the exhortation from God to 'Be thou Holy as I am Holy'. We certainly fall short of being what we should be, and Thank God the Lord Jesus Christ came to save sinners, but we do not help others by telling them it is fine to indulge in sinful behaviour (effectively telling them, 'peace, peace ... when there is no peace').

51 posted on 02/26/2013 2:10:27 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: norton

I understand.


52 posted on 02/26/2013 2:10:41 PM PST by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: Tzimisce
When I saw C Cup on the Blaze I had no idea who she was. It's too bad that Real News turned real rino after the election. I can't even watch the show anymore.
53 posted on 02/26/2013 2:12:29 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: Norm Lenhart

an organized effort to take over the GOP would succeed. It just has to be done under the radar with no PR. Unfortunatly we have too many attention whores around from various groups who want only their own glorification. That is from all groups including third party wanabes.

Also remember some of these third parties are funded by the enemy.


54 posted on 02/26/2013 2:15:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: norton
Never thought I'd say it, but this is my last input to FR; enjoy your own little world folks.

I'm sure you're be sorely missed. ((Snicker))
55 posted on 02/26/2013 2:15:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EveningStar
Listening to conservative talk since the 80's, Rush since the 90's, been on Free Republic and Drudge since 1998, read multiple newspapers and am active in politics and post on twitter...

Who the hell is SE CUP?

Went to wiki and learned she is an atheist MSNBC host.

Why the hell do we care and why was she at CPAC to begin with?

Anyone want to support this group at CPAC as well? Or are you a beastiphobe?

56 posted on 02/26/2013 2:18:25 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Tzimisce
She comes out of nowhere and is held up as a leader of the Conservative movement?

Exactly. I'm a well-informed, staunch conservative and I have never heard of her/him.

This is the Left's forte - create strawmen and then claim victory.

57 posted on 02/26/2013 2:18:35 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: EveningStar

SE is committing career suicide these past two weeks. She’s going to lose her entire fanbase. 3 years from now, she’ll either be out of the media all together, or pull a Charlie Crist and flip parties. Too bad. Although, I found her to a great asset to our movement a couple years ago.


58 posted on 02/26/2013 2:19:02 PM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: longtermmemmory

Agree on all counts. But continuing to support the gop and their pro gay/illegal/tax/lib agenda id our certain destruction.


59 posted on 02/26/2013 2:19:13 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: All

I would suggest to many in this thread that Ms. Cupp has a valid point though I suspect that her reasoning is a bit faulty.

Conservatives need to realize that these issues are coming up because the left is baiting us into a fight on their terms and we need to stop allowing that to happen. They know that as long as this fight continues at the federal level they have a chance of winning and if they do manage a win we’ll all be screwed. Conservatives need to put a stop to this and get the fight back where we can have the most impact - at the local level.

We need to adopt a policy of replying to these matters by stating unequivocally that things such as this are not federal issues; that we can not have a limited government if we also grant that government restrictive powers over the individual; that the power of the state, no matter how well intentioned, must be used with great restraint when it comes to individuals.

Why risk having this battle on one front when we can just as easily fight it at the ground level on 10,000 different fronts? At least that way if we lose 10 or 20 smaller battles we will not have lost the whole war.


60 posted on 02/26/2013 2:20:01 PM PST by Tucsonican
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To: norton
[I think that tolerance is in the Bible somewhere]

The Bible consistently conveys - throughout - that homosexual acts are a sin, specifically an abomination.

The moral laws of the Old Testament are nowhere abrogated in the New Testament; Christ himself even clarifies:

Matthew 5:17

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Stealing is still a sin, lying is still a sin, homosexual acts are still a sin, etc. Homosexual acts are one of numerous things that are referred to as an "abomination".

You don't have to support gay marriage (I do not) in order to believe in inclusion, true tolerance, and the value of allies.

The Bible consistently exhorts us specifically to NOT make allies with those who live habitually sinful lives in an effort to bolster our success - it consistently tells us that if we need help we are to trust in God and God alone. Those in the Bible who relied on such unholy alliances were never blessed for having done so, but always suffered painful chastisement.
61 posted on 02/26/2013 2:20:22 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: icwhatudo

lol


62 posted on 02/26/2013 2:21:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cicero
GOProud... totally took over the CPAC convention. They bused in their followers, filled the seats, flooded the hallways, and distracted attention from everything else.

Yes, they did. Even Ryan Sorba, a courageous soldier exposing the diabolical homosexual agenda, was shouted down by them - AT A CONSERVATIVE CONVENTION.

63 posted on 02/26/2013 2:21:50 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ilgipper

I think a lot of these so-called conservatives plan to switch at some point, on some issue. They are like kamikaze missions.


64 posted on 02/26/2013 2:23:12 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: norton

Bye bye, troll. Enjoy the DUmp.


65 posted on 02/26/2013 2:23:49 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: GeronL
GREAT post at The Blaze...

...taking a stand is harder than riding the band wagon...

66 posted on 02/26/2013 2:26:24 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GeronL

I saw the leader of GOPooch on Red Eye. He seemed real conservative. I get really sick of you purists. We should welcome everyone into the GOP is we are ever going to beat the democrats. The “God hates bestiality” types on Free Republic are sad sick little religious nuts who live in their own little world. You social conservatives will be the death of the party. You just don’t understand the world has changed and you just need to accept it.

/s


67 posted on 02/26/2013 2:27:43 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: fwdude

To tolerate gays means not persecuting them which we don’t.

Tolerating gays DOES NOT mean we should invite them in and celebrate their depravity.

Gays who keep their mouths shut about their personal preferences are more than welcome to stand with us. Any group that celebrates their preference in their very name puts that first no matter what claims they make to the contrary.


68 posted on 02/26/2013 2:31:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: norton
OK, I've had it with the "God hates fags", "If you don't agree with everything I say you're not a social conservative" and "ONLY evangelicals and some Cagtholics can really, really, be conservatives" crap.

It's not FR that you have a problem with, we're just talking about the same Bible that has been around for thousands of years - and in America this was never a problem with most people until quite recently. God does not change over time. Many people have changed their ideas in the past few decades. They turned away from God - having heard Scripture, they rejected it. Those who do not repent will not have the benefit of Christ's work on the cross after they pass on. They may delude themselves that that "are a good person" or give to charity, etc., but all that is vanity in the day of the Lord if one is not saved by the Grace of God.

Winning elections is pointless when it comes to personal salvation.
69 posted on 02/26/2013 2:31:22 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: icwhatudo

LOL well done.


70 posted on 02/26/2013 2:36:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EveningStar

Well we don’t need a rino at CPAC as Cupp is one. But the question is now on the table... How does she get fired from the Blaze TV as it tries to get on more cable outlets?


71 posted on 02/26/2013 2:40:14 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: who knows what evil?

bump

but GOProud is all about “riding”


73 posted on 02/26/2013 2:44:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EveningStar
The Republican Party has a huge divide between Constitutional Conservatives/Social Conservatives and Constitutional Conservatives/Social Liberals.

It is the Social Issues that Obama & the Democrats are using as wedge issues.

The Social Issues are why the Republican Party hates the Social Conservative T.E.A. Party.

Social Liberals are godless and have no moral grounding.

74 posted on 02/26/2013 2:50:09 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
It is the Social Issues that Obama & the Democrats are using as wedge issues.

Sure seems to me that the "moderate" republicans are deliberately coordinating their attacks to coincide with democrat attacks.
75 posted on 02/26/2013 2:54:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: norton
Don't suppose to speak for the Word of God if you don't know it.

Well....Bye.

76 posted on 02/26/2013 2:55:39 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: KC_Lion
When you force the Government to force Priests/Rabbi/s etc to preform an act against their will, that is not liberty.

Nobody is suggesting this. Just because a type of marriage is legal doesn't mean all clergy must perform those ceremonies. It's legal for Hindus to marry Mormons, and it's also perfectly legal for a Catholic Priest to refuse to perform the marriage. If a same-sex couple can be legally marriage according to the state, they still can't be married in my church (Catholic) and probably not yours either.

77 posted on 02/26/2013 2:55:47 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: norton
Never thought I'd say it, but this is my last input to FR; enjoy your own little world folks.

Don't give up like that. There's room for disagreement on many issues -- it's just not FR style to admit that.

78 posted on 02/26/2013 2:59:52 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All

They are already going to punish kids who don’t want to share bathrooms (showers?) with the opposite sex in MA.

Punish dissent. Forced coersion.


79 posted on 02/26/2013 3:01:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mr. Know It All

But its not legal for a photographer to refuse to photograph a gay wedding party.


80 posted on 02/26/2013 3:02:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: shadeaud; All

Cupp is first an author who wrote a book Why You Are Wrong About The Right that Fox News promoted once. She is in her 20s or 30s. She started appearing on Fox News as a contributor in 2008. She was on the late night show Red Eye a lot. She came out as a Atheist, but went on to do a book on the Christian religion.

S.E. Cupp claimed she hated the left wing and thus became a conservative republican in college. She then fled Fox News abruptly to Glenn Beck’s extreme network and did a S.E. Cupp show for several months on their. But it ended.

So Cupp was moved to a new show called Real News on The Blaze TV. She was put on with others like Buck Sexton, Amy Holmes and Will Cain to discuss the day’s news. Then she also abruptly joined MSNBC after Fox News launched The Five to replace Glenn Beck. She became the token republican on the MSNBC copy of The Five called The Cycle.

All of a sudden she starts sounding democrat more and more. She just bashed Rush Limbaugh in the New York Times Magazine and started writing a column in the New York Daily News, where she attacked Rush some more. Jeffery Lord of the American Spectator took her on and denounced her in his own article.

Now she is bashing CPAC. She also came out in favor of gay marriage, a while ago, and even brought it up on her Blaze TV show. She also attacked Marco Rubio, unfairly about the water drinking, on the show. People are mad at her. She needs to fired from The Blaze TV as it is starting a push to get on cable outlets at http://www.gettheblaze.com.


81 posted on 02/26/2013 3:04:12 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mr. Know It All
After attending three CPAC conventions I noticed at the last one that it is taken over by snotty little college students that don't have a clue what is going on and the GOPROUD group......for the exorbitant cost of attending (airfare, hotel, convention) I decided I'll watch it on tv.

Last good one was when Rush was the speaker.

82 posted on 02/26/2013 3:04:33 PM PST by estrogen (voter fraud was huge)
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To: Mr. Know It All

Some issues are deal killers.

The homosexual-pedophile movement is one of those.


83 posted on 02/26/2013 3:05:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Mozilla

I’ve never been impressed with her.


84 posted on 02/26/2013 3:06:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: who knows what evil?

Maybe these legislatures should educate themselves on the effect
Homosexuality has on society. Maybe, once educated, they would and no longer be afraid of bringing that knowledge to their constituents. Fear has paralyzed the GOP and, in doing so, exposed the fake conservatives. Forward the link below to your representatives and friends and get them educated!

http://www.naturalhealthpodcasts.com/PodCasts/dr_wong_show_213.mp3


85 posted on 02/26/2013 3:10:21 PM PST by mazz44
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To: Tzimisce; All

She needs to be fired from The Blaze TV as it is starting a push to get on cable outlets at http://www.gettheblaze.com.


86 posted on 02/26/2013 3:12:56 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: GeronL
They are already going to punish kids who don’t want to share bathrooms (showers?) with the opposite sex in MA.

We were talking about churches being forced to perform same-sex marriage. This has nothing to do with that. There is no Constitutional Amendment that deals with who gets to use which bathroom. There is a Constitutional Amendment saying that the government cannot make rules about how your religion works. If your church doesn't recognize marriage between same-sex or transgendered people, that's not going to change.

87 posted on 02/26/2013 3:15:21 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All

I am not talking about who gets to use what bathroom. I am talking about PUNISHING children who do not wish to share a bathroom/shower with the opposite sex.

That is just plain sickening


88 posted on 02/26/2013 3:16:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EveningStar

No surprise.
This pig Cupp said only last week that Republicans need to slap down Rush Limbaugh and ignore him, etc.

Good riddance to another liberal scumbag poser.


89 posted on 02/26/2013 3:18:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: EveningStar

Isn’t Grover “Hamas” Norquist on the CPAC board?


90 posted on 02/26/2013 3:18:43 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: cripplecreek
But its not legal for a photographer to refuse to photograph a gay wedding party.

I guess it would depend on whether you live in a state where 1. photographers must have a professional license to do business as photographers and 2. one of the conditions of having that license is non-discrimination.

I am not a lawyer, so I'm not sure of the details of how that works.

91 posted on 02/26/2013 3:19:31 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: GeronL
I am talking about PUNISHING children who do not wish to share a bathroom/shower with the opposite sex.

That is just plain sickening

I agree, but it has nothing to do with whether or not churches can be forced to perform same-sex weddings, which is what I was talking about.

92 posted on 02/26/2013 3:21:38 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All

It all goes to the same thing.

The perverts want to FORCE others to kneel before them. That is all its about.

There is no such thing as tolerance when it comes to the homo-pedophile movement.


93 posted on 02/26/2013 3:26:52 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cripplecreek; All

Me either. But what good does it do to have so-called conservative/libertarian network on cable and satellite like the Blaze if it is already with a Rino. We dislike Rinos on Fox News. So will the Blaze be a clone? So fire S.E. Cupp and leave her to rot on MSNBC.

Glenn Beck is having his own issues. The idea for the Blaze TV to be a conservative network is running into a bump because I hear Glenn claim he is a libertarian more and more and more. But, he hangs out with conservatives and not libertarians. So it is a bit baffling. His misfit ball had Rick Santorum and Dana Loesch among other conservatives. He admitted Michelle Bachmann was too busy to make the rounds, but he invited her too.

He is having an identify crisis himself. He said yesterday his views are in between conservatism and libertarian. What I called years ago a libertarian-conservative. Well ok.

On some shows last year he still said he was conservative when he was around other conservatives. But he said yesterday his network is a libertarian network.

I understand Glenn wants to the bridge the divide. But it is widening not shrinking. For one Beck, said he is not on board with Ron Paul types, in the movement on his radio show.

He even bashed libertarians the other day who supported Ron Paul last year for alienating other people. So beck is a complicated man.


94 posted on 02/26/2013 3:27:04 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: Mr. Know It All

Its wrong to force any private businessman to do business with anyone he he doesn’t want to do business with short of a life and death situation.


95 posted on 02/26/2013 3:35:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mozilla

I like Glenn despite the points where I disagree with him.


96 posted on 02/26/2013 3:36:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

bump


97 posted on 02/26/2013 3:38:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: EveningStar

Good. One less faux conservative.

Next, they’ll demand a name change to CPAC’D.


98 posted on 02/26/2013 3:48:52 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: EveningStar
Atheists are air hockey pucks, capable of shooting off in any direction at any given moment.

It's foolish to expect anything else.

99 posted on 02/26/2013 3:53:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: bicyclerepair

>> CPAC should include them I think.

The problem is the overt intent of the banner they fly under. Are the members prohibited from attending?

There should be no law forcing citizens to support and service homosexual behavior. Doubtful “GOProud” fights against such laws. By supporting the laws, it’s effectively a schizophrenic operation promoting both leftwing tyranny and some conservative causes.

Red-Eye is a conservative leaning libertarian program. It’s too dismissive of homosexual law that goes far beyond the issue of liberty and association. Homosexual law is designed to persecute those that refuse to service and support homosexual behavior.


100 posted on 02/26/2013 3:57:18 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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