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Alabama City Considering Ordinance to Disarm Citizens During Natural Disasters (VIDEO)
Guns. com ^ | Feb 26, 2013 | S.H. Blannelberry

Posted on 02/26/2013 4:59:38 PM PST by EXCH54FE

An Alabama city is considering an ordinance that would allow law enforcement to disarm citizens who appear to be acting “unruly” during a natural disaster or statewide crisis.

Guntersville Mayor Leigh Dollar spoke to local news affiliate ABC 31 about the impetus behind what’s been described as the ‘emergency powers resolution.’

“We are not trying to infringe upon anyone constitutional rights whatsoever. It’s just to protect the workers working out there in a disaster,” Dollar said.

In April of 2011, the city was hit by tornadoes causing lawmakers to rethink the way in which power is delegated during a state of emergency.

Those who support the resolution believe that when exigent circumstances arise the acting mayor should be able to respond without having to consult the city council for a vote, included is the provision to permit police to confiscate weapons from “unruly” individuals.

Naturally, the bill faces strong opposition from gun owners.

ABC 31 asked Paul Landry, a gun owner and music teacher at Guntersville Music Academy, what he thought about the ordinance.

“Well, it seems like an infringement on the 2nd Amendment and that’s the biggest problem I have with it,” said Landry.

What’s fascinating though, as another local news affiliate WHNT News 19 pointed out, is that a state law written in 1955 already gives police the power to seize an individual’s weapon provided he/she is endangering the officer or presenting a threat to others. - See more at: http://www.guns.com/2013/02/26/alabama-city-considering-ordinance-to-disarm-citizens-during-natural-disasters-video/#sthash.ReVXxCHw.dpuf

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; gunlaws; politics; secondamendment
Also, lest we forget, the lessons learned in the wake of Hurricane Katrina where law-abiding citizens where unlawfully stripped of their Second Amendment rights by local police and federal agents.
1 posted on 02/26/2013 4:59:50 PM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

2 posted on 02/26/2013 5:06:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EXCH54FE

“appear to be acting unruly” sure is a VERY vague and subjective criteria for violating foundational rights enshrined in the Constitution.

Unruly could mean “defending himself and property”...


3 posted on 02/26/2013 5:07:11 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: EXCH54FE

A Hurricane is a true disaster, it can expose people and lay them bare as they fight it and try to survive and keep down the destruction of their home and the loss of their heirlooms and valuables.

To add the fear of hyped up armed teams raiding your home with all the dangers that entails, with them stripping you of your means to protect your family in the emergency and threat of a lifetime and when your family loses it’s windows and door locks, the car and access to police and 9/11, and the threat of seeing your guns scratched and damaged and thrown in a truck to be exposed to salt water and 6 months of rust and a nightmare of trying to get back the damaged guns.

What a nightmare.


4 posted on 02/26/2013 5:09:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: EXCH54FE

Why don’t YOU WALK TO GUNTERSVILLE!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nft9Y51IOfc


5 posted on 02/26/2013 5:11:12 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: EXCH54FE

Politicians have always been cowardly but they’ve really begun to hide behind this constant ‘cops, firemen, EMTs and workers’ nonsense as if these groups never make mistakes and/or aren’t public employees also. Obama is fond of this stunt.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 5:12:03 PM PST by relictele
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To: EXCH54FE

I know folks from Alabama...just try to take their weapons in a time of emergency (or anytime for that matter)...the whole proposition is a lot of baloney.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 5:12:54 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: EXCH54FE

these communists never talk about organizing armed citizens to HELP.

this elected official sees citizens as the enemy.

they also seek the liability when New Orleans had the butts kicked in the unfriendly federal courts. The police still got off with no liability.

time for alabama to pass a law that puts any politician like this in jail for a felony.


8 posted on 02/26/2013 5:16:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EXCH54FE

Define what the word “appears” could appear to mean.


9 posted on 02/26/2013 5:23:31 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: EXCH54FE

That really surprises me. Guntersville is not located in the extremely conservative South Alabama but it is still in a very conservative region. Maybe this Mayor will get a reality check next election.


10 posted on 02/26/2013 5:24:57 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Something like this has been my argument posted in the Comments sections of different newspapers, trying to wake up those people who think expanding the background check is OK.

If everyone has to get the government’s OK before they can transfer a firearm, there’s nothing stopping them from shutting down the computers in the name of a “National Emergency”, thereby freezing all sales/transfers. Anyone doing so anyway is automatically a criminal, especially if Schumer’s demand for a 4473 for every transfer goes through.

Pound this into the heads of the non-gun owners that it would be too late to wait until a disaster to try and get a gun.


11 posted on 02/26/2013 5:33:58 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Okay, I came across something the other day. I’m still not sure if this is right place to post it. But since the evil affecting our country I thought this may be appropriate and if not I apologize. This is video from a first player shooter game called Project Reality. It’s the most realistic first player shooter based game out for years. Not trying to promote it either. Just a little back ground.

They just did the 2013 videos for the game and there was a video created by an online gaming clan that fired me up for America and stirred the Patriot within. The creator used Charlie Chaplain’s final speech from the movie The Great Dictator and combined it with Hans Zimmer music.What’s even more incredible is the things he describes is happening right now.

Interesting considering the movie was the first time in Hollywood an actor used a movie to promote his political views. Even more interesting is Chaplain was speaking against socialism since today’s Hollywood is full of liberals. I apologize again if this is not the correct place to post this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hAhv1vg5C74


12 posted on 02/26/2013 5:40:05 PM PST by Capt.Michaels (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Capt.Michaels

I haven’t seen the movie but wasn’t Chaplain a Communist?


13 posted on 02/26/2013 5:44:12 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: longtermmemmory

You are entirely right.

We have a cadre of trained people ready to help in our veterans organisation. People who know how to shoot and know how to take orders, and yet they are never asked to help in thses situations.


14 posted on 02/26/2013 5:48:47 PM PST by Venturer
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To: EXCH54FE

The enforcement arms of the ruling class are to be avoided.

They are not there to help you but to protect the ruling/elite class.

Deny. Defy. Do Not Comply.

Have a plan in advance to hide your weapons.


15 posted on 02/26/2013 6:07:21 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: ansel12
A Hurricane is a true disaster...

Especially if you're in a Heinkel.

16 posted on 02/26/2013 6:14:25 PM PST by stboz
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To: stboz

You had me stumped for a second there.

These kind of posts and the fact that the country is in the grip of hard core America haters and Marxists makes it look like there is going to be a clash somewhere along the line.

I can’t see any way of averting it. The monsters have near total control of the media, academia and even in some churches.

Obama just breaks the law at will knowing the media and Congress will never hold him accountable. He will just get worse as time goes on.

I regret that I am 20 years too old to do much in the fight. Also not in the best health. Still I have thought about it for a few weeks now and have resolved to at least go down fighting and hopefully better than that.

Maybe that day will never come. I had no idea the Soviet Union was about to break up but it did. Maybe some unseen force, perhaps God will prevent it happening but right now it does look like the next war is coming,


17 posted on 02/26/2013 6:27:06 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Travis McGee

I think a 180 gr .30 cal traveling at 2800 fps can get through all that black stuff he is wearing.


18 posted on 02/26/2013 6:27:29 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: stboz

“Especially if you’re in a Heinkel.”

LoL!!!


19 posted on 02/26/2013 6:36:59 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That is really funny. I was thinking about how much that black knit hat would slow down a .308 hollow point... Personally I don’t think it would slow it down much... Just guessing, not that I personally would do that, you know.....


20 posted on 02/26/2013 6:39:02 PM PST by contrarian (sequester schmequester let it all hang out.)
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To: yarddog
...right now it does look like the next war is coming,

Sadly, I think you will be found to be correct. Obama and his owner want even the slightest excuse to start something. His new S.S., the National Security Force, will be a terror on our country.

Who will stand at the next Concord Bridge?

21 posted on 02/26/2013 6:42:17 PM PST by stboz
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

129 grains of 6.5X55 from a 29 inch barrel of a Swedish Mauser should do the trick as well. If not I still have some of the old 160 grain with and extremely long fmj round nose bullet.

They will penetrate a tree with a diameter of 4 feet with no problem.

I might have to use my 8X57 Mauser tho all I have is corrosive
196 grain fmj’s. The ammo is hot tho. Just a little more energy than the 30-06 with 150 grain pointed fmj.


22 posted on 02/26/2013 6:42:33 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: stboz

I probably will not be able to join you at the bridge due to age and health but I will be innocently sitting on my front porch with a rifle and ammo nearby but concealed.

If there are more than 2 or 3 I will probably try to get as many as I can then hopefully make it out the back to an area which is difficult to approach. It there are only 1 or 2 I would make an attempt take them out and hide the bodies. Then again I would leave for a day or two. If no one comes and bothers my house I would go back to it to maybe repeat what happened again.

I was at one time the best shot in my gun club but have noticed my ability has declined a bit recently but still should be able to hit man sized targets as far as I can see them in these piney woods.


23 posted on 02/26/2013 6:53:15 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: stboz
By the rude bridge that arched the flood,

Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,

Here once the embattled farmers stood

And fired the shot heard round the world.
24 posted on 02/26/2013 6:56:33 PM PST by stboz
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To: yarddog

Guntersville is a magnet for upper income folks from Huntsville. Probably over the past decade....a high number of company executives who were forced into moving to Huntsville...actually bought homes in the Guntersville area. So, there’s probably 1k residents there...who aren’t from the region, or from any other Alabama region.

They start to worry about oddball things....like what happens after a tornado. And they really don’t want friends or neighbors driving around with weapons. I would imagine that this talk will last a week or two, and most of the regular voters will laugh so much about this....that the whole thing will be withdrawn and forgotten quickly.


25 posted on 02/26/2013 7:24:45 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: EXCH54FE

All I can say to them is “Good Luck!!!”


26 posted on 02/26/2013 7:33:12 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Especially in the face.


27 posted on 02/26/2013 7:43:58 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EXCH54FE
Doesn't Alabama have state preemption that would bar such an ordinance from being enacted by a municipality? I thought they did, but if not, now is the time for the legislature to enact one or add to the one that exists.
28 posted on 02/26/2013 8:02:28 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: yarddog

No, he was playing a satirical Hitler. Mocking him in the movie. In the end, he caught Hollywood liberals and conservatives back then off guard. It pretty much finished off his career for him taking a stand against tyranny. It was literally the end of the movie. Just abruptly ended after that speech. Lot of controversy. Wiki has more information on it.


29 posted on 02/26/2013 8:04:07 PM PST by Capt.Michaels (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Guntersville Mayor Leigh Dollar needs to be put into a pine box and buried alive!


30 posted on 02/26/2013 8:05:27 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: yarddog

You are correct Yarddog. There is absolutely no way of avoiding it unless something changes. I don’t see that happening either. Also, you can do something. When the SHTF (Sh*t Hits The Fan). Fighting tryanny is not always pulling a trigger. It’s done in many ways. Find what works for you. For example: Native American Indians used Navajo for communications fight over intelligence. Granted, they also fought physically, but the communications was a fight also.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 8:08:22 PM PST by Capt.Michaels (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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