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“…if that’s what you believe, then all of this talk of revolution suddenly doesn’t seem so crazy,
bob-owens.com ^ | 26 February, 2013 | Bob Owens

Posted on 02/26/2013 6:53:41 PM PST by marktwain

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This is exactly the case. If the political class wants to ignore the Constitution, then they have no legitimacy. They only hold onto power by brute force.
1 posted on 02/26/2013 6:54:03 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The time is drawing nigh, we will not get out of 2016 with the America that we all thought we knew.


2 posted on 02/26/2013 7:03:54 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: BlackJack
Ping.

5.56mm

3 posted on 02/26/2013 7:07:29 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: marktwain

...it seems almost mandatory.


4 posted on 02/26/2013 7:09:20 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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bttt

We don’t need a constitutional convention.


5 posted on 02/26/2013 7:12:43 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: marktwain

Ping......
Mr Glenn Reynolds. I like you. I like you a lot. I am proud to hear you are a fellow Tennesseean Yes, the time is drawing nigh....


6 posted on 02/26/2013 7:13:35 PM PST by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son.......)
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To: marktwain
Government rules with the consent of the governed. Even in the old CCCP, when they finally got fed up, it was over. With much less bloodshed than I expected.

/johnny

7 posted on 02/26/2013 7:14:36 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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It's not just the Constitution that they ignore ...

It is undoubtedly true that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force or reserve militia of the United States as well as of the states, and, in view of this prerogative of the general government, as well as of its general powers, the states cannot, even laying the constitutional provision in question [the 2nd amendment] out of view, prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms, so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security, and disable the people from performing their duty to the general government.

Presser v. Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

That from the United States Supreme Court. Now take a look at what one lower court says the Presser case stands for:

Presser stands for the proposition that the right of the people to keep and bear arms, whatever else its nature, is a right only against the federal government, not against the States. The courts are uniform in this interpretation. See, e.g., Thomas, 730 F.2d at 42 (1st Cir.); Peoples Rights Org., 152 F.3d at 538-39 n. 18 (6th Cir.); Quilici, 695 F.2d at 269 (7th Cir.); Fresno Rifle & Pistol Club, 965 F.2d at 730-31 (9th Cir.).

Bach v. Pataki408 F.3d 75 (2d Cir. 2005)

Both courts are talking about the right to keep and bear arms, and the Supreme Court said that this right exists even if the 2nd amendment does not.

The system is corrupt. The legislature is corrupt. The courts are corrupt. The legitimacy of the federal government is exactly the legitimacy that the Mafia holds, brute force.

8 posted on 02/26/2013 7:22:44 PM PST by Cboldt
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This is the excerpt from my novel “Foreign Enemies And Traitors” where a character discusses the Con-Con that resulted in the Economic Justice and Democracy Amendment, and the Freedom from Gun Violence Amendment.

Anybody who thinks a Con-Con would make our situation better is very naive, IMHO.

http://matthewbracken.site.aplus.net/FESP.htm


9 posted on 02/26/2013 7:28:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

if the government can ignore it, the people can, too.

they cant demand we respect their power, esp their unconstitutional powers they’ve taken that they don’t have, and they take away our guaranteed rights.


10 posted on 02/26/2013 7:29:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: smokingfrog

that will be the beginning of the revolution. we’re not living under a libtard socialist constitution.


11 posted on 02/26/2013 7:30:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Travis McGee
Myself, I have the same wary view of a convention that Matt Bracken does.

Just a PING, FRiend.

12 posted on 02/26/2013 7:52:47 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Travis McGee

Ah, you’re already here.


13 posted on 02/26/2013 7:54:39 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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14 posted on 02/26/2013 7:58:53 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Cheerio

2016? All will be well with President Moochelle. Not to worry.


15 posted on 02/26/2013 8:08:19 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: marktwain

A three part article I just came across is one of the most significant I have ever seen concerning the state of our destruction. The link to part three is: http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/the_endgame_for_the_destruction_of_the_united_states.html

The first paragraph of the article contains links to parts one and two. This is a must read.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 8:17:50 PM PST by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: marktwain

I swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I, unlike so many political “leaders,” take my oaths seriously. If they abandon the Constitution I will use every means at my disposal to restore it. Every means.


17 posted on 02/26/2013 8:18:05 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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“All will be well with President Moochelle. “

She’ll be VP. Biden as President for 4 years. THEN Michelle as President, and Chelsea C as VP.

Voting does not matter any more.


18 posted on 02/26/2013 8:18:41 PM PST by DBrow
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“Professor Reynolds suggests a constitutional convention will be the best way out, and indeed, it may be.”

A second Constitutional Convention might become the only way to ensure a peaceful transition from the old DC government, to a new one.

There are those here on FR who say “no, no, NO!” when this subject comes up. Short of an uprising 1861-style, what other alternatives would be preferable?


19 posted on 02/26/2013 8:19:54 PM PST by Road Glide
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sfl


20 posted on 02/26/2013 8:21:20 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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