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Obama Says He'd Strike Down All Bans on Same-Sex Marriage
Christian Post ^ | 03/01/2013 | Katherine Weber

Posted on 03/01/2013 2:10:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind

In an impromptu White House press conference on Friday, President Barack Obama spoke on his administration's recent decision to file an amicus brief urging the Supreme Court to strike down Proposition 8, saying there is "no good reason" for a ban on same-sex marriage. He was responding to a reporter who asked the president why he doesn't "just argue that marriage is a right that should be available to all people of this country."

Obama responded by saying: "What we've said is that same-sex couples are a group, a class that deserves heightened scrutiny. The Supreme Court needs to ask the state why it's doing it, and if the state doesn't have a good reason, it should be struck down. That's the core principle, as applied to this case.

"Now, what the court may decide that if it doesn't apply in this case, it probably can't apply in any case. There's no good reason for it. If I were on the court, that would probably be the view that I would put forward. But I'm not a judge, I'm the president."

He continued, "The basic principle, though, is let's treat everybody fairly, let's treat everybody equally, and – and I think that the brief that's been presented accurately reflects our views."

Obama also told reporters at Friday's press conference that he felt it was important for his administration to become involved in the Proposition 8 case because he found the amendment that was passed by voters in 2008 to be unconstitutional. The amendment defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

"... when the Supreme Court asks, do you think that the California law, which doesn't provide any rationale for discriminating against same-sex couples other than just the notion that, well, they're same-sex couples, if the Supreme Court asks me or my Attorney General or Solicitor General, do we think that meets constitutional muster, I felt it was important for us to answer that question honestly – and the answer is no," Obama told reporters. The Obama administration filed its amicus brief late Thursday, the last day for briefs to be filed in the Supreme Court case.

"The exclusion of gay and lesbian couples from marriage does not substantially further any important governmental interest. Proposition 8 thus violates equal protection," wrote Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr. in the brief favoring the overturning of Proposition 8 in California.

Obama, who initially took office supporting civil unions but not same-sex marriage, came out in support of its legalization last year.

Many critics note Obama has previously stated that he does not believe in federal intervention regarding same-sex marriage, and that it is an issue which should be left to state jurisdiction.

In a statement to ABC News, Andy Pugno, general counsel for ProtectMarriage.com, a proponent of Proposition 8, called Obama's brief "unprecedented" and "hardly surprising, but nevertheless disturbing."

"In his first term as president, Obama clearly stated that Americans can choose a special designation of marriage between man and woman, and that supporters of traditional marriage can hold that position without animus," the statement on behalf of Protectmarriage.com read, according to ABC News.

"He later remarked that it would be a 'mistake' to make the debate over redefining marriage into a federal issue," the statement continued.

"Yet today, by stating that the traditional definition of marriage is rooted only in irrational prejudice, the president has impugned the motives and actions of millions of Californians and turned his back on society's long-standing interest in both mothers and fathers raising the next generation."

Opening arguments for the Supreme Court Proposition 8 case will be heard March 26.

During this term, the Supreme Court will also be hearing a case challenging the Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as being between one man and one woman on a federal level.


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KEYWORDS: bho44; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; obama

1 posted on 03/01/2013 2:11:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Christianity
Constitution
Capitalism

These are the things Obama hates.


2 posted on 03/01/2013 2:11:58 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t it great to be a dictator? Just do any old thing you want whenever.


3 posted on 03/01/2013 2:14:13 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought he said he wasn’t a dictator.


4 posted on 03/01/2013 2:14:13 PM PST by lula ( What America needs is men of Character in congress, we have enough characters.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He is using racial discrimination law terminology for gays. This would go way beyond just affording them “equal rights” and will lead to all kinds of special rights, affirmative action, etc.

What a filthy liar Obama is, previously claiming he opposed gay marriage and suddenly he became a gay rights activist.


5 posted on 03/01/2013 2:14:27 PM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: SeekAndFind

When is he going to say out loud he is a homosexual?


6 posted on 03/01/2013 2:16:48 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Another recent article posted on gay militants in general (not just the marriage issue) identified the problem: gays want equal treatment, not equal opportunity/protection. The two are very different and the former is guaranteed to nobody.

Obama’s quote “the basic principle, though, is let’s treat everybody fairly, let’s treat everybody equally,” reveals that he believes the opposite even though equal treatment automatically obliges individuals to behave in a certain way. That is not liberty. That is not freedom. That is not equality before the law. That is the law being made subservient to yet another protected class. No sale.


7 posted on 03/01/2013 2:17:02 PM PST by relictele
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To: SeekAndFind

And all those good church going black folks voted for him. The ones I know can’t stand the thought of gay marriage.


8 posted on 03/01/2013 2:17:24 PM PST by Sybeck1 (What has the GOP done today to gain your support in 2014?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

have you ever seen a President so openly dream of dictatorship?


9 posted on 03/01/2013 2:19:41 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Sybeck1

RE: And all those good church going black folks voted for him. The ones I know can’t stand the thought of gay marriage.

For the vast majority of these church going black folks... the following trumps morality (including marriage and the family and God’s laws ):

1) Government goodies

2) Skin color

They have little fear of God’s judgment.


10 posted on 03/01/2013 2:23:20 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The Supreme Court needs to ask the state why it's doing it, and if the state doesn't have a good reason, it should be struck down. That's the core principle, as applied to this case.

He thinks he can tell the Supreme Court how to do their jobs.

HE AIN'T THE BOSS OF THE JUDGES AND HE AIN'T THE BOSS OF "WE THE PEOPLE"!!

11 posted on 03/01/2013 2:24:07 PM PST by Slyfox (Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness -G Wash.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
"Obama Says He'd Strike Down All
Bans on Same-Sex Marriage"


12 posted on 03/01/2013 2:26:34 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind
"The basic principle, though, is let's treat everybody fairly, let's treat everybody equally ...."

Oh. You mean how you give 0bamacare WAIVERS to all of YOUR friends, and you tell Christian organizations like Hobby Lobby to pound sand.

13 posted on 03/01/2013 2:27:23 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind

“I’m the President” seems to be his answer to everything. What a shame.


14 posted on 03/01/2013 2:28:51 PM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: SeekAndFind
OK .. here's MY tin foil two cent's worth ...

As Jimmeh Cahtah, th' peenut fahmah packed his own chute (IMO) by writing and getting passed the CRA (Community Re-investment Act) that (again, IMO) brought down the housing industry in 2008 ...

(Remember, the CRA helped get loans for people with little or no credit to build their own homes through Habitat for Humanity .. Jimmeh Cahtah, CEO sort'a ... (post presidency)


Mayhaps zero's intent to see queers have all they can be has a simular motivation ...

?

Just sayin'

15 posted on 03/01/2013 2:29:46 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: lula
"But I'm not a judge, I'm the president."

Yeah, he said that too. Every couple seconds he feels compelled to remind everyone that he's the president.

16 posted on 03/01/2013 2:31:04 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama has such little regard for the sanctity of marriage because he is illigitimate. His parents weren’t married, personally I think his marriage to Michelle may be a sham.

That said, the illigitimacy part isn’t his fault naturally. But I do think that it affects a person’s perception about marriage and relationships and trust....and even themselves too. It used to be that being illigitimate was nothing to celebrate. Now, an illigitimate person is POTUS. Just sayin’....


17 posted on 03/01/2013 2:34:25 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

Should we be surprised that Obama lied?

When doesn’t he lie?


18 posted on 03/01/2013 2:43:54 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

He already argued that he did not lie... His opinions on gay marriage “evolved” after he got elected.

This is another one of those escape hatches politicians can use if they really want to hide their agenda during the campaign and then change it after being elected.

For example : Why did you raise taxes when you said during your campaign that you were against raising them?

Answer: My opinion on taxes “evolved”.

Just replace taxes above with X, where X is any issue you can think of.

That’s his schtick now.


19 posted on 03/01/2013 2:50:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

They are trying to establish something in law that does not and will never exist in reality. And force the rest of us to treat it as real.

Most people are pretty tolerant on a personal level. Do what you want. If two males or two females cohabitate, its not my business if you don’t make it my business. But don’t expect me to pretend that it is a marriage.

O has elevated this non-issue to the highest importance. One has to assume that he has personal reasons for making this the centerpiece of his presidency.

As we often say: The problem isn’t the whack-job we elected president. The problem is that half the country thinks he’s the cat’s meow. Half the country at least fails to recognize disfunction and empty incompetence when its staring them in the face.


20 posted on 03/01/2013 2:58:48 PM PST by marron
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To: musicman

21 posted on 03/01/2013 2:59:39 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The basic principle, though, is let’s treat everybody fairly, let’s treat everybody equally, and – and I think that the brief that’s been presented accurately reflects our views.”

Good because I want to marry my sister (I’m also a woman). You can’t judge me, everybody has to be treated equally!


22 posted on 03/01/2013 3:08:12 PM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My guess is that in Obama’s new math, a Nation full of votes does not out weigh a Dictators decree...

...Kinda like how he got elected.


23 posted on 03/01/2013 3:13:39 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind


24 posted on 03/01/2013 3:29:35 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind

With all the Bigmouth talking, everybody forgets that gay marriage is sexual perversion. It is wrong at the outset. I wish he would shut up. He is such a distraction to everything people are trying to have a serious discussion about. All he does is talk!


25 posted on 03/01/2013 3:35:59 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SeekAndFind

In America, the Executive Branch does not “strike down”.

Unless you are assuming dictatorial powers.

Which, considering 0bama’s unwillingness to enforce the laws as required by the Constitution, has already occurred.

See immigration law, release of illegals, etc.


26 posted on 03/01/2013 3:45:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama wants to marry Reggie when he dumps the mooose after the next election.


27 posted on 03/01/2013 4:10:34 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Sybeck1

My FRiend he is half black,

That is his trump. They will never desert him.


28 posted on 03/01/2013 4:11:46 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Sybeck1

Skin color trumps everything in the Democratic party.


29 posted on 03/01/2013 4:25:01 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: SeekAndFind

How’s he going to explain this to his good buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood?


30 posted on 03/01/2013 4:26:39 PM PST by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone with a modicum of sense knew he supported gay marriage all along, and the homosexuals knew that too. They knew he was saying that because many people in the country are/were opposed to gay marriage. There were more people opposed when he first ran than there are now. (One must hand it to the libs and homosexual community; they utilized the media and schools to switch public opinion.) He paid lip service to traditional marriage on the surface, but he has always supported gay marriage. Now he feels comfortable revealing his true feelings.


31 posted on 03/01/2013 4:55:50 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, really? On whose authority will Obama do this?


32 posted on 03/01/2013 5:05:51 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SeekAndFind

He must have gotten a truck load of letters from him bath house and gay bar buds.


33 posted on 03/01/2013 5:49:17 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

34 posted on 03/01/2013 8:42:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SeekAndFind
ure - go after guns when a simple trip to Wiki can give you: AIDS is one of the top three causes of death for African American men aged 25–54 and for African American women aged 35–44 years in the United States of America.[citation needed] In the United States, African Americans make up about 47% of the total HIV-positive population and more than half of new HIV cases, despite making up only 12% of the population.[31] African American women are 19 times more likely to have HIV than white women.[32]
35 posted on 03/02/2013 3:07:59 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind

What nobody ever says, is that marriage is NOT an issue of “equal protection” at all.

Why? Because under current marriage law, we’re all treated equally. We are all limited to one opposite sex partner. We are all limited to one marriage partner at a time. Any eligible man can marry any eligible woman, and vice versa. We’re all treated equally as it is.

I understand that a homosexual doesn’t want to marry an opposite sex partner, but the point is, he/she has the right to do so.

Another issue is that, under federal law, homosexuality and this whole “sexual identity” issue is not a protected class under civil rights laws. Yet judges are being asked to invent such a right, and then apply that right to say that homosexuals should have the right to marry each other.

Bottom line, this issue should not be in courts at all. And it wouldn’t have made inroads in courts except for liberal judges inventing a right to homosexual marriage, and deciding that “sexual orientation” “SHOULD BE” covered under civil rights laws, when such status is explicity NOT covered at all.


36 posted on 03/02/2013 12:39:31 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama Says He'd Strike Down All Bans on Same-Sex Marriage

Same sex married people are BANNED from my house.

Strike that down!

37 posted on 03/03/2013 11:46:50 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Low Bible information Christians vote Democrat.)
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