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The Great Escape murders: The Nazi slaughter of escaped heroes
Daily Mail ^ | 3rd March 2013 | SIMON READ

Posted on 03/03/2013 6:43:24 AM PST by the scotsman

'Immortalised in the film The Great Escape, the mass breakout from PoW camp Stalag Luft III on March 24-25, 1944, was swiftly followed by terrible retribution – the cold-blooded murder of 50 recaptured prisoners, on Hitler’s direct orders.'

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To: the scotsman
I'm no historian but I've known for years that The Great Escape was at least loosely based on real event.However,I didn't realize that it was quite “tightly” based on real events until now.The suffering that Europe and Asia endured during the 30’s,40’s and even into the 50’s is almost beyond my comprehension.And the “Soviet Bloc” suffered even into the 80’s.There are some wars that you wish *both* sides could lose.Iran/Iraq and Hitler/Stalin are two that come quickly to my mind.
21 posted on 03/03/2013 7:58:14 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: Rennes Templar

He also lets the devil prowl around seeking to destroy. Why?


22 posted on 03/03/2013 8:02:57 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
The Communists were even worse. Stalin executed many returned Russian prisoners, and sent many others to gulags and other forced work camps, for the crime of not fighting to the death against the Germans.
23 posted on 03/03/2013 8:06:49 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Ditter
My earliest memories are on a hill overlooking Bolling AFB ~ the planes were coming in there 24/7, being checked out by First Squad, Second Squad, and others ~ and then ferried to New Foundland, to Greenland, to Iceland to England where they would be ready for D-Day.

Bolling was the D-mark for the war in Europe.

I recall sort of missing the roar later on, but at night my mother would take me outside to watch for a certain plane ~ she'd say "There's your daddy's plane and he'll be home soon" ~ and there'd be a signature waggle.

More recently I discovered that I'm living at the end of a WWII temporary runway out in Fairfax county where planes were lashed together for those flights, and yet others checked them out before the trip to Europe.

Born on a battlefield ~ next to Freeman Field in Southern Indiana, brought up under the roar of the D-Day aerial armada, and in the end i"m still living on sacred ground.

24 posted on 03/03/2013 8:11:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Last Dakotan

The U.S. bent over backwards to adhere to the Geneva protocols so as not to give the Germans any pretext to harm American POWs. In one interesting case six German prisoners killed a fellow prisoner who made disparaging remarks about Hitler and said Germany deserved to lose the War. They were court-martialed and convicted, but their sentences were stayed until about month after the War, when Truman ordered them all executed. There were over 500,000 Germans interred in America, mostly in rural areas in the South. All but two were accounted for at the end of the War. None were allowed to remain in America, though thousands of them later returned after immigrating from Germany.


25 posted on 03/03/2013 8:12:31 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: dfwgator

A modest satanic quote? Who knew....


26 posted on 03/03/2013 8:12:51 AM PST by deadrock
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To: PapaBear3625

as the other comment states, the devil won the 20 Century, why?


27 posted on 03/03/2013 8:13:35 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: the scotsman

Anyone interested in The Great Escape should also read The Wooden Horse, about an escape that took place from a different compound at the same prison camp. The phrase “Where there’s a will, there’s a way” certainly comes to mind in thinking about how ingenious these POWs were in coming up with ways to escape.


28 posted on 03/03/2013 8:13:35 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: the scotsman

Note at the end of the story that the men were hanging 8 months after the beginning of their trial.

Even in Texas it’s still 15 years, if not more.


29 posted on 03/03/2013 8:18:26 AM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: muawiyah
My father was a little too old to sign up for WW2. He was a welder so he went to Panama and built ships for the government, why Panama I never asked. Mom and I lived with my aunt and uncle while he was gone. It was after his return and the war ending that I heard about the Jews being starved and killed. I am sure I wasn’t supposed to see the pictures but I peeked. Sad memories for me.
30 posted on 03/03/2013 8:27:34 AM PST by Ditter
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To: the scotsman

bookmark


31 posted on 03/03/2013 8:34:35 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Once it became known that Kurt Meyer and the 12th SS Panzer Division murdered Canadian prisoners-of-war at the Abbey Ardenne Canadian soldiers seldom took prisoners from the 12th.

Ever hear of the Chenogne massacre ?


32 posted on 03/03/2013 9:03:46 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: drjimmy

The Great Escape, the Wooden Horse, how about the The Colditz Cock?

It was a glider built by British prisoners of war that were being held in Colditz Castle . It was constructed and hidden in an attic and had a 32 foot wing span. The war ended just before it was to have been flown off the roof.


33 posted on 03/03/2013 9:15:05 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: yldstrk

Why everyone focuses on what the Germans did during WWII while ignoring what the Japs did, I will never understand.

Or why it’s never even mentioned that the commies in China and Russia killed 10 times the number of people that the Germans did.

It seems to me that someone has a adgenda to push that demonizing the Germans advances.


34 posted on 03/03/2013 9:27:33 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: C210N

My Father was in Stalag Luft III during the tunneling, but as an American, was moved out of the camp prior to the escape - actually left Jan 28, 1945 for another camp in Nurnberg. I still have his POW log book that the Red Cross provided the men in camps back then - and it’s a fascinating thing to read. He was quite an artist and there’s even a drawing he made of the memorial built in Mar 1944 in an RAF cemetary and dedicated to 50 men killed in the escape from Stalag Luft III in Sagan, Germany. When I was younger, I remember him telling me he participated in the dirt dumping so I believe the portrayal in the movie was accurate as to how it was accomplished.


35 posted on 03/03/2013 9:28:52 AM PST by USNA74
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Why everyone focuses on what the Germans did during WWII while ignoring what the Japs did, I will never understand.

Boy, you got that right. The Japs were literally burying people alive in Asia.

I hope those facts are being taught to our kids in the schools. The kids should see photographs of the Chinese people being buried alive by Japs.

The pro-Jap, anti-German biases may be due to the fact that Germans are white.

36 posted on 03/03/2013 9:33:05 AM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Excellent point!!


37 posted on 03/03/2013 9:36:41 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Snowyman

I hadn’t heard of Chenogne, but I did know one World War II vet who told me that they did not take SS prisoners and did not accept the surrender of German snipers who ran out of ammunition. Surrendering with a full clip was a German soldier’s best life insurance policy.

A Ramagen, after the American crossing of the Rhine, a group of German civilians were hiding in a railroad tunnel. They realized that they were in a tunnel with a bunch railcars containing flammable materials. They decided to surrender to the Americans, and a German railroad worker left the tunnel waving a white flag. The Americans shot him. After they managed to surrender, they asked the Americans why they shot him. The Americans thought he was SS because the railroad uniforms were black, like the SS.

In the final order for Unternehmen Wacht am Rein, Hitler more or less ordered the Wehrmacht not to take prisoners. He wanted the Americans to retaliate by killing German prisoners. Many, if not most, German soldiers realized that the War was lost and they would fair far better surrendering to the Americans than the Russians, and had a better chance of surviving the War in American custody than fighting in the Wehrmacht. Hitler wanted to change this perception. Killing German prisoners served Hitler’s ends. The Germans most inclined to surrender were the least ideological and least inclined to kill American prisoners.


38 posted on 03/03/2013 9:52:56 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: drjimmy

American soldiers have a duty to escape if possible


39 posted on 03/03/2013 9:53:11 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
All of these groups that embark on grand renovationist projects end up killing a lot of people. Beginning with the Jacobins in the French Revolution and ending with the current crop of Jihadists intent on restoring the Caliphate these projects all require killing a lot of people who are designated ‘enemies of _______ (Fill in the blank). Since the Almighty has given the Homo Sapiens free will these events will reoccur as long as our species is around . It is in our nature to dream this stuff up as part of the basic ‘us versus them’ dynamic.
40 posted on 03/03/2013 10:11:19 AM PST by robowombat
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