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Kansas casts eye on teachers unions
The Kansas City Star ^ | Mar. 06, 2013 | BRAD COOPER

Posted on 03/07/2013 10:19:49 AM PST by george76

New Jersey’s governor has branded them “political thugs.”

A former federal education official has likened them to terrorists.

Less vilified in Kansas than some other parts of the country, those teachers unions still find their clout under attack in the Legislature.

The battle over teachers unions has marched its way across the country. Ohio. Michigan. Wisconsin. Idaho. And now it’s in Kansas, greeted by Republican Gov. Sam Brownback and his conservative allies in the Legislature.

Lawmakers are moving to undercut the tenuous power of teachers unions by barring them from using voluntary paycheck deductions for politics.

And they’re going after teachers’ ability to bargain collectively on key issues — hoping to give cash-strapped school districts new flexibility and leverage in contract talks.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Idaho; US: Kansas; US: Michigan; US: Nebraska; US: New Jersey; US: Ohio; US: Oklahoma; US: Wisconsin
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To: Carry_Okie
Yes, I do have a “clue” how your “personnel services companies” work.
Inside and out.
Both as an “product” of such a service, and as the “Client”.
It was incredibly convenient to sign on to an agency while I was seeking another permanent position.

Other than one job (that I quit outright) I would give my employer a minimum two week notice, and sign on to an agency.
Never missing a weekly paycheck, or collecting unemployment.

“Temping” was a great experience, and I acquired additional skills from working in many environments.

It worked out well for me, because I wanted a permanent position in a specific, small niche market, but had enough core skills in other areas to wait for a decent new position to open, or be created.

It didn't work out as well for many less agile and experienced workers.
Many “Clients” were very willing to hire long term temporary low level clerical workers on a semi-permanent basis.
Fixed expence, no benefits paid, and easily discarded.

Oddly enough, the government, insurance and healthcare industries make heavy use of “personnel services companies”.

hmmmmm.

Yes, I do think I have much more than a “clue”.

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21 posted on 03/11/2013 6:46:46 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: sarasmom
Yes, I do have a “clue” how your “personnel services companies” work.
Inside and out.

Apparently not.

Fixed expence, no benefits paid, and easily discarded.

I wouldn't hire a person who won't use the spell-check in the posting box.

Unlike temp agencies, most craft unions currently take responsibility for training for specialized skills: electricians, mechanics, millwrights, high steel workers, telecom workers, bricklayers, air traffic controllers, etc. Unfortunately, most often they contract by a fixed rate of production under the premise that all their workers are equally skilled, which means that they don't make the most of their people and don't get rid of the worst. Nor do they have as much motive to improve the skills they deliver as they would under competition.

Besides the skill level and the variety of services offered, the difference between most "temp agencies" and competing craft "unions" is that the latter would at least start out employee-owned. As to "temp work" many of the jobs for the above skills above are not.

Try again.

22 posted on 03/11/2013 7:27:02 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: Carry_Okie
LOL!

So your grand scheme is to resurrect the ancient “guild workers” !

Shall we also revamp indentured servants? ROTFLMAO!

23 posted on 03/11/2013 8:05:27 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: KC_Lion; All

Let’s just say as a teacher I strongly disagree with unions.

We moved to Texas in 2008 (still miss Kansas and hope to come back someday).

Unfortunately, I make enough more as a teacher in Texas (non-union....they just have teacher associations without bargaining power) than I would in Kansas.

Frankly, I would have to teach in a KC suburb district or in Wichita to come even close, and even that is still a lot less.

It’s difficult. I would like to move back, but I moved before taking a pay cut and that’s not going to happen again.

So, the idea that unions are necessary for better pay is ridiculous. Granted, Texas is helped by a different school funding formula and oil money out here in West Texas, but that does not do enough to explain the difference.

There are many districts in Kansas that pay nearly $10,000 less!


24 posted on 03/20/2013 8:50:34 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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