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Marc Jacobs' 'faux fur' garments actually use the coats of Chinese canines
NYDailynews ^

Posted on 03/08/2013 8:00:02 PM PST by chessplayer

It's a faux fur fakeout — Marc Jacobs jackets being sold at Century 21 department stores actually contain dog hair.

Even if the labels say otherwise, the “faux fur” garments sold by the retailer are made with the fur of cuddly Chinese raccoon dogs, a breed that’s often skinned alive for its soft coat.

Tests arranged as part of an undercover probe by the Humane Society and state Assembly member Linda Rosenthal (D-Manhattan) identified various items hawked by Century 21 as containing real canine fur, disgusted shoppers found out Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; dogs; fur; furs; thatwasntchicken

1 posted on 03/08/2013 8:00:02 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

It’s like the horse meat controversy ... who cares, fur is fur and meat is meat. Just because they are considered pets in some countries doesn’t mean they should be excluded from other uses. How many of us have pet fish and yet we eat fish ...

Of course false advertising is another thing.


2 posted on 03/08/2013 8:07:46 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: doc1019
It’s like the horse meat controversy ... who cares, fur is fur and meat is meat.

I would tend to agree, but have grave reservations when I see claims of "skinned alive".

What you do with an animal after you humanely kill it is one thing. To torture an animal like the Chinese apparently do with dogs (dunking them in boiling water to skin them) before eating, or taking the fur while still alive is just evil.

3 posted on 03/08/2013 8:14:49 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: chessplayer

This is absolutely horrific.

“Skinned alive to make fake Uggs: Horrific footage reveals slow, sickening deaths of raccoon dogs”

“Pitiful: A bloodied and dazed creature is shown still alive but helpless on a pile of corpses”

“Agony: A raccoon dog is beaten to stop it struggling so it can be skinned alive”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2045016/Raccoon-dogs-skinned-alive-make-cheap-copies-Ugg-boots.html


4 posted on 03/08/2013 8:15:13 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: doc1019

So you have no problem with the dogs being slowly skinned alive. Wow.


5 posted on 03/08/2013 8:17:50 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Putting words in my mouth. Never said I agree with skinning them alive, just that I didn’t see any difference between the meat of a dog and any other meat.


6 posted on 03/08/2013 8:22:41 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: doc1019

Because you completely ignored the fact that they are being skinned alive.

“at controversy ... who cares, fur is fur and meat is meat. Just because they are considered pets in some countries doesn’t mean they should be excluded from other uses. How many of us have pet fish and yet we eat fish ...

Of course false advertising is another thing.”


7 posted on 03/08/2013 8:32:03 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

It is illegal to import items made of dog or cat fur into the US.

It should not be difficult to devise a biochemical assay to reveal whether items are made of dog, cat, or a more acceptable animal.

I could open a business doing that...


8 posted on 03/08/2013 8:37:04 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: chessplayer

And my whole argument was about the use of dog fur in clothing and dog meat as food ... not about the boiling alive of animals (even though we think nothing of dropping a live lobster into boiling water). I would think that we, as a civilized country, wouldn’t need any comment on this barbaric practice.


9 posted on 03/08/2013 8:48:56 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: doc1019

Big difference between dogs and fish. Fish can’t even recognize you; dogs give unconditional love. Not as big, but there’s a big difference between cattle and horses, too.


10 posted on 03/08/2013 8:56:05 PM PST by dangus
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To: doorgunner69

The Indonesians put a dog in a sack and beat it to death to tenderize the meat.

That’s what the young obama ate and liked.

Could be worse though, he could have carried a dog suffering from diarrhea home in a pet carrier on the roof of the car.


11 posted on 03/08/2013 9:00:22 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: dangus

A pet, is a pet, be it a fish or an elephant. Telling a child that their pet fish is dead and telling a child their pet dog is dead amounts to the same thing.

As for differences between a cow and a horse ... cows, in general, are not cute, horses are, therefore we have no problems eating a cow, but a horse is different.

In our culture horses and dogs are considered pets therefore we have problems with the idea of using them for food ... not so in many cultures worldwide.

Having had the occasion to live in a Montinyard village back in the day, food was food and dog was food just like chicken was in our country. However, I will admit, the animals were dead before skinning.


12 posted on 03/08/2013 9:10:36 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: doc1019

I have to wonder if the report is totally falsified. Marc Jacobs is a direct competitor of Michael Kors for purses and other items.

Michael Kors turned out to be a big, big Obummer fan. This sort of resembles Clinton’s attack on Microsoft after his buddy from Netscape Navigator donated large sums to his campaign.


13 posted on 03/08/2013 9:37:53 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: angry elephant

You could be on to something, I put my be research effert on this.


14 posted on 03/08/2013 9:43:45 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: null and void
Could be worse though, he could have carried a dog suffering from diarrhea home in a pet carrier on the roof of the car.

I am sure there is a relevant point to that comment that pertains to torturing mammals prior to eating them or using them for ornamentation...................

15 posted on 03/08/2013 9:49:23 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doc1019

Dogs are “man’s best friend”. The same can’t be said for, e.g. a mink.

Your inability to discern these differences doesn’t mean that the differences aren’t important.


16 posted on 03/08/2013 10:06:25 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

And you are right. The “dog as mans best friend” is a western concept, however it is not a concept held world over. And as a person born in the western world I understand the concept of ‘dog as best friend’, I own several and would never consider eating any of them ... unless I was starving to death.


17 posted on 03/08/2013 10:14:20 PM PST by doc1019 (The rabbit hole that Obama is leading us down just gets deeper and deeper.)
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To: angry elephant

I am wondering if the report is true as well. I didn’t know about the connection you pointed to but over the years I have learned not to trust many groups that claim to protect animals. I would want to see an independent lab test before believing this story.


18 posted on 03/08/2013 10:19:28 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

Unfortunately I believe it. Probably going on as we speak right now in fact.
:(


19 posted on 03/08/2013 10:32:35 PM PST by MNDude (I survived the sequester!)
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To: doorgunner69

Agree completely. Consumers should know what they are supporting in buying garments made from these animals.


20 posted on 03/08/2013 10:35:19 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: exDemMom

Great post. And... best response to this problem.


21 posted on 03/08/2013 10:36:47 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: doc1019

So is skinning alive. Other than laziness and sadism, what’s the point of that?


22 posted on 03/08/2013 10:50:58 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: chessplayer

Some men hunt for sport,
Others hunt for food,
The only thing I’m hunting for,
Is an outfit that looks good...

See my vest, see my vest,
Made from real gorilla chest,
Feel this sweater, there’s no better,
Than authentic Irish setter.

See this hat, ‘twas my cat,
My evening wear - vampire bat,
These white slippers are albino
African endangered rhino.

Grizzly bear underwear,
Turtles’ necks, I’ve got my share,
Beret of poodle, on my noodle
It shall rest,

Try my red robin suit,
It comes one breast or two,
See my vest, see my vest,
See my vest.

Like my loafers? Former gophers -
It was that or skin my chauffeurs,
But a greyhound fur tuxedo
Would be best,

So let’s prepare these dogs,
Kill two for matching clogs,
See my vest, see my vest,
Oh please, won’t you see my vest


23 posted on 03/08/2013 11:18:09 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: chessplayer

Thanks for posting.. What kind of narcissist buys this stuff anyway? Bookmark for later, after breakfast digests.


24 posted on 03/09/2013 3:50:51 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: doorgunner69

Believe `claims of “skinned alive”.’ and ‘Humane Society’ and I can assure you that the word `gullible’ is NOT in the dictionary!

(Not directed at you, gunner — you show a healthy cynicism but some people actually believe HSUS’ hysterical lies.)


25 posted on 03/09/2013 4:48:01 AM PST by Peet (Notice: Due to the high price of ammo, there will be NO warning shots.)
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To: chessplayer

I don’t understand why they can’t kill it and then skin it so it wouldn’t suffer? That is just horrible.


26 posted on 03/09/2013 5:53:11 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: chessplayer

On the one hand, liberals love animals and hate fur. Even more, they hate the abuse of dogs.

OTOH China is America’s enemy so they can’t be criticized by liberals.

It’s hard to be a liberal.


27 posted on 03/09/2013 5:58:27 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: chessplayer

Marc Jacobs. Overpriced trash. Now with comes with Fido hair to jack up the price by $150.

Never liked anything he came out with, too over rated.


28 posted on 03/09/2013 6:15:58 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: chessplayer

I do know that without Oprah and her “favorite things”, Marc Jacobs would not be as popular as he seems to be. Maybe if Jacobs decided he wanted to make his items out of cocker spaniels it would get her attention. Cow.

Where are the Hollywood “activists” to enlighten us on this issue? Darrel Hanna should be squealing about these poor dogs but her fat arse is sitting in a tree somewhere in Berkeley.


29 posted on 03/09/2013 6:21:33 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: doorgunner69

Obama eats a tortured dog, he’s a saint.
Romney brings a sick dog home, he’s a cur.

I was commenting on selective outrage.


30 posted on 03/09/2013 6:56:57 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: MNDude

I have to say I am skeptical because the Humane Society is involved. I have caught them in too many shenanigans over the years. I do not believe them unless I see other evidence and I do not donate one cent to them, I donate to local groups that I know truly help animals.


31 posted on 03/09/2013 7:23:40 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

But why would the Humane Society make false charges against fine communists in China?


32 posted on 03/09/2013 7:41:00 AM PST by MNDude (I survived the sequester!)
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To: null and void

The thing about a dog with diarrhea went right over my head.


33 posted on 03/09/2013 9:01:09 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
No problem, who can keep up with all the insanity?

34 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:31 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: chessplayer
There's a song about racooon dogs that was popular in Japan in the 1930's--Shō-jō-ji No Tanuki Bayashi. Eartha Kitt also recorded this tune in 1957.

The translated lyrics are as follows:

At Shō-jō-ji Temple
The garden is bright on the moonlit night.
Let’s come and together,
We are raccoon dog friends,
Keep up with the Priest,
Let’s come and beat on the belly drum together.

At Shō-jō-ji Temple,
The bush clover is in full bloom on the moonlit night.
How merry and playful!


35 posted on 03/09/2013 9:24:12 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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