Posted on 03/12/2013 6:44:58 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
In addition:
-I did not receive a Bronze Star with a V for Valor...I did not deserve one; however, I did receive a BSM for meritorious service...this is a more common award given to non-combatants for meritorious work while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force
-the Bronze Star was awarded for meritorious service over a period of six months, not for one incident that lasted 48-72 hours
-the citation package includes bullet points outlining other achievements during the deployment
-the award was given, in part, because I was serving as a Lt Col on a command staff with oversight of every chaplain deployed in the AOR...in other words the significance of the position and the rank of the individual play a large part in the kind of medal given
-the training package in response to the Quran burning is mentioned because it had theater-wide importstrategic implications, not because it had anything to do with Islam
Here is a fairer representation of my tour:
http://sunburynews.com/2012/06/lt-col-jon-trainer-harlem-zoning-board-presented-bronze-star/
Chap T
I take back the hoax comments, found his facebook page and seems legit, even the Antarctica comments.
https://www.facebook.com/jon.trainer1
He also seems to lean right based on his likes. Several pro-life pages and Conservative economics like CATO.
Thanks for that post. You’ve been here long enough I hope you can understand how and why people were skeptical about this. The other post with details does help clear that up.
bump, should have waited for you to post. That does give a much different perspective than the media posted.
Still, you have to admit, the last name ‘Trainer’ associated with a Power Point is kind of funny.
Thanks for your service.
I get a lot of kidding about my name tape on the uniform...God gave me a good name for my job!
As an instructional designer, I can appreciate that one.
I may be imagining things, but this seems to be a step calculated to undermine another of the things Americans hold sacred. If the boys in DC can hand out these medals like Cracker Jack toys, it diminishes the service for which they were originally intended, and leaves us with little to admire and hold sacred about our military service.
you can’t make this up since the only way to eternal life is belief in Jesus as the Son Of God. All others face the judgment and hell.Christians don’t face any judgment because they are saved by their belief in Jesus. Why would you waste time by judging someone already pardoned for all sins?
You must understand that there are two kinds of Bronze Stars...one for Valor and one for Meritorious service...soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines know the difference...we hold those who wear the V with highest regard and understand ours is a lesser award...
But I also perceive a disturbing trend among the propagandists in this government to undermine and downgrade all we hold dear, especially regarding the military and the services rendered by our heroes.
Thank you for your service, and forgive me if I offended you. It was most assuredly not my intention. God bless you.
no problem! thankful for the opportunity to shed a little light on things here...it has been a real caution for me regarding the tendency to jump to conclusions...i have never been so vilified and by people who are on my side of the aisle...
Would you be willing to post a new thread on what you put in post #22 outlining the real reason for your reward to counter how the media put it? I think it would help to have your side of the story out more.
I am waiting to see if my chain of command will take it up; I have asked Rich Lowry to clarify things...we’ll see...
Completely understandable.
if you have not seen the powerpoint slides, how can you comment on their content?
Thanks for your service to our country!
Thank you, Chaplain!
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