Quick. Somebody tell Spielberg he HAS to redo Lincoln!
Posted on 03/13/2013 5:30:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
As we pondered this question, we also wanted to know when and where the two groups intersected. We started with an informal survey. We asked several people the following question: when do you think the Tea Party movement began? They answered: when Rick Santelli ranted on the floor of the Merc in Chicago in February, 2009.
But our research into the history of the Tea Party took us back to 2004, to its first inklings as an organized force for rousing ordinary citizens to fight back against big government. In that year, Libertarian David Koch founded Americans for Prosperity, a nonprofit political advocacy group set up to educate the public on the principles of free markets.
Even though the term "Tea Party" was not used then, Koch's vision of "a mass movement, a state-based one, but national in scope, of hundreds of thousands of American citizens from all walks of life standing up and fighting for the economic freedoms" pretty much describes the movement we see today.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Libertarians and Tea Partiers owe it to them to bail them out.
Republicans should denigrate Libertarians 'till they do(and even after).
Republicans are not just like the Democrats at all.
Including the Tenth Amendment's prohibition of federal involvement in within-state commerce such as that in marijuana?
The more I think of it 1992, and the Perot Run.
He was a charlatan live hand grenade with a bad haircut who would have made un-kubocko bucks with EDS and or Perot Systems managing Hillary Care, and he was a spoiler to help make that happen.
Hillary Care didn't and he got shafted.
But how many Indy's, Republicans, and Conservatives pulled the lever for him because they were so pissed @ Papa Bush for screwing with the Reagan Legacy.
The problem was everyone was looking for a leader and a new movement, the Tea Party back then didn't realize the power was in their hands, not surrendering it to someone else, and it took another 20ish years to figure it out !!!!
Good explanation of 1992 in your post #43.
I am guilty as charged. Papa Bush did not understand the times, was not concerned about the exploding debt, would not take on Bill Clinton( we didn’t know about Mena(AK) Airport then, did we?)and Perot seemed like he could be a credible candidate.
Perot got 19% of the vote, Clinton became President, and Bush looked like “Wha happened?”
But I’ll tell you what, the GOP was shocked outta their shorts by all this, We got Newt Gingrich and a Contract for America, and in ‘94, the House became Republican for the first time in 40 years! So I am proud of helping to make that happen.
Of course the GOP put up Dole in ‘96 and screwed the country once again. Similar to Sarah Palin helping to win back the House in 2010 with the Tea Party while the GOP-E sat on their @sses, and then two years later, put up Mitt Romney, guaranteeing an Obama second term.
I really don’t care what happens to the GOP.
they either get on board with the Tea Party or become the Whigs of the 21st Century. Their call.
>>So these establishment Republicans who kinda like that totalitarian thing as long as the government is pushing their agenda are just as bad as the rest of the Gimmiedats.<<
Adjusted and made into a tagline. Mark this post well as it shall NEVER have attribution! (just like all the pics I have stolen) LOL (really, I am LOL IRL!)
>>Odin agrees.<<
Struck ya dead, did he?
Dang, he’s got a temper!
>>Including the Tenth Amendment’s prohibition of federal involvement in within-state commerce such as that in marijuana?<<
Look how successful The War On Drugs has been! Right up there with The War On Booze!
Look what it has gotten us!! Swat Teams armed to the teeth, an entire multi-billion dollar federal agency, a good 20-50% of all police resources (my guess), and as a capper: 25% of all prisoners are in for “drug-related offenses” (http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/08_01_REP_DrugTx_AC-PS.pdf).
Dude tokin’ the doobie in his living room contributes to the all-important Police State, baby!
how about...
Really? 200 years ago libertarians promoting abortion, homosexuals in the military and gay marriage, would have faced lynching, not mere political resistance.
That was my tag line here for about six years after we added the tag line box.
So your point was what, exactly?
"They are mostly social conservatives, not libertarians on social issues. Nearly two-thirds (63%) say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, and less than 1-in-5 (18%) support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry."
"Nearly half (47%) also say they are part of the religious right or conservative Christian movement. Among the more than 8-in-10 (81%) who identify as Christian within the Tea Party movement, 57% also consider themselves part of the Christian conservative movement."
That isn’t true, it is just that the issue didn’t exist and wasn’t even imaginable.
The people who founded America were not writing a constitution to accept abortion and homosexuality in any way or form, if you had brought up that they were, then you would have faced their wrath.
The libertarian view of homosexualizing the military did arise, and was dealt with harshly.
Polygamy arose and was legislated against in 1862, the republican party was founded to oppose polygamy.
Quick. Somebody tell Spielberg he HAS to redo Lincoln!
The first amendment’s prohibition against the Federal government dictating the LIEbertarian gay sex social religion to Christians, Jews and Muslims? What about freedom of association?
You have some work to do in your own house of worship trying to dictate you wacky Marxist social doctrine to everyone.
Including the Tenth Amendment's prohibition of federal involvement in within-state commerce such as that in marijuana?
The first amendment’s prohibition against the Federal government dictating the LIEbertarian gay sex social religion to Christians, Jews and Muslims? What about freedom of association?
I support both of those constitutional freedoms. Now will you answer my question?
You have some work to do in your own house of worship trying to dictate you wacky Marxist social doctrine to everyone.
What do you think my house of worship is - and how is that relevant to my simple yes-no question that you haven't answered?
Spielberg should have mentioned it, and he could have pointed out that republicans passed the first legislation against polygamy before the Emancipation Proclamation.
“The GOP’s first party platform in 1856 took direct aim at polygamy, placing it in the same sinister frame as slavery in the hope of cultivating the votes of Christians wary of the spread of these dual threats to the republic.
“It is both the right and the imperative duty of Congress to prohibit in the Territories those twin relics of barbarism — polygamy, and slavery,” the party declared as it emerged on the national stage for the first time.
Later on, Republicans used their congressional power to wipe away any secular power Mormon leaders had in the Utah Territory and were the main backers of a law that disincorporated The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”
I don’t care what you beleive and do in your own life. I do care about what politically correct social doctrines and social practices libertarians force on the people of this country.
I am not crazy about the war on drugs but I don’t want to be forced to pay to support a bunch of drug users and addicts via social programs. Get rid of social programs that would make me pay for pot heads and execute drug addicts who rob and attack others in their stuper, and then I will consider legalizing drugs.
Including the Tenth Amendment's prohibition of federal involvement in within-state commerce such as that in marijuana?
I am not crazy about the war on drugs
You're a step ahead of many FReepers.
but I don’t want to be forced to pay to support a bunch of drug users and addicts via social programs. Get rid of social programs that would make me pay for pot heads and execute drug addicts who rob and attack others in their stuper, and then I will consider legalizing drugs.
But until then you're content to see the Tenth Amendment violated?
The LIEbertarian Party are politically correct social Marxists like Dear Leader Ayn - no matter what “most members” want. They are not working for nor tolerating social freedom and speech outside the public dictates of political correctness. It’s the authorative church of political correctness “science” for all or be economically and legally persecuted by the party’s amoral church leaders/social dictators and thought enforces.
I hung around the wackos enough to know they are intolerant, stupid social liberals. They act as if they don’t know that the religion of liberalism feeds the dependence of economic liberalism. I could not beleive how radical the LIEbertarian party is until I went to some meetings and met the “party” behind the public lies about “freedom.” They don’t mean American freedom when they talk about freedom.
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