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To: Servant of the Cross

Libertarians are amoral, treacherous crypto Dems who must be purged from the Conservative movement.


3 posted on 03/13/2013 5:33:20 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

That’s a bit harsh, but your premise of amoralism is mostly true.

You can’t separate Godliness and Freedom, especially under our constitution.

The hardcore libertarians not only see no value in traditional Western Judeo-Christian culture, but in many instances are openly hostile to it,
not seeing the necessity of this cultural underpinning in order to have the liberty they seek.


6 posted on 03/13/2013 5:37:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: kabumpo
Libertarians are amoral, treacherous crypto Dems who must be purged from the Conservative movement.

Hey nice - you are the poster child for the divisiveness needed to keep us from being an effective force to counter the totalitarian left. You personafy perfectly the totalitarian right intolerant of those who favor the original premise of the Founding Fathers. Good job there.

9 posted on 03/13/2013 5:47:04 AM PDT by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: kabumpo

>>Libertarians are amoral, treacherous crypto Dems who must be purged from the Conservative movement.<<

I think “leave me alone and my personal morals are none of your business so long as they do not harm another” is exactly what the framers had in mind when they crafted the Constitution.

Or is imposing your personal morals (outside of societal definitions) on others your definition of “liberty?”


10 posted on 03/13/2013 5:49:34 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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To: kabumpo

>> Libertarians are amoral, treacherous crypto Dems who must be purged from the Conservative movement.

An incorrect generality.

A large number of establishment players consider themselves to be part of the “Conservative movement”.

The Libertarian Party is a haven for liberals that want to use the force of law to establish their goals. This is NOT libertarianism.

The Tea Party movement is rooted in libertarian principles which has nothing to do with liberal values.

Statism and libertarianism reflect enforcement. Conservatism and Liberalism define morality and values.


12 posted on 03/13/2013 5:56:12 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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The task of reducing government is a huge undertaking. If Libertarians support candidates who want to chop federal spending, I’m not going to “purge” them from anything. If they then want to advocate some amoral legislation, I’ll oppose them. But we have to build a coalition to cut government. I don’t know many people who are 100% conservative or anyone who even knows that that is. There are a lot of Christians out there who are way too comfortable with government spending as long as government supports traditional values — Christian Socialists like Mike Huckabee.


14 posted on 03/13/2013 6:14:23 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: kabumpo

“Libertarians are amoral, treacherous crypto Dems who must be purged from the Conservative movement.”

Yeah, the problem there is, there are not enough CONSERVATIVE, constitutional republicans to win anything without libertarians help.


29 posted on 03/13/2013 7:26:15 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kabumpo

What a foolish statement.

I have a friend who is a die-hard Republican. He has a special needs child. He’s all for ADA, government subsidies he recieves (because he deserves them) and government control of almost everything HE decides, according to his Calvinist doctrines, are “sinful.”

There is no difference between that kind of “conservative” and liberal, except in what they want to control.

Call me a conservative, libertarian, liberaltarian, or any other label, I believe in the America of Roger Williams, Patrick Henry, Thomas Jefferson and many other founders of the United States.

If a belief that a man by his very nature is free to make mistakes that injure himself alone and that he has the responsibility of caring for himself and accounting for those mistakes makes me an “amoral, treacherous crypto Dem,” then so be it. If this be so, then our nation was founded on amoral and treacherous principles and your views would be better served in Europe where top-down, big government control of individuals came from.


32 posted on 03/13/2013 7:52:53 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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