Posted on 03/13/2013 2:20:35 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
It would start to get REALLY interesting if this new pope started an active policy of excommunicating pro-abortion “Catholic” politicians.
LOL. The Benedictans, Franciscans, Dominicans, and Jesuits were having a big meeting that went well into the middle of the night. Suddenly all the lights went out in the meeting room. The Benedictans immediately started chanting Psalms, the Franciscans took out their guitars and sang songs praising Creation, and the Dominicans began preaching about the metaphysics of light and darkness; meanwhile the Jesuits went to the basement, found the fuse box, and reset the breaker.
A man has three sons who entered three different religious orders: the oldest became a Dominican, the second a Franciscan, and the youngest a Jesuit. On his deathbed, the father tells his sons, "I know you all have vows of poverty, but as a sign of your love for me, I want each of you to place one thousand dollars into my casket to be buried with me."
On the day of the funeral, the Dominican son steps up, places $1000 in the casket, and says, "This seems like a waste of money, since you can't take it with you, Dad. But with the special permission of my superiors, I'm doing as you requested, as a sign of my love."
Next, the Franciscan son approaches the casket and says, "You know I love you, Dad, but the needs of the poor are so great, I just can't let $1000 be buried with you. I hope you understand, now that you are in heaven. Please forgive me."
Finally, the Jesuit son comes forward and says to his brother, "Don't worry, Frank. I'll pay your share." Then he reaches into the casket, takes the cash left by his eldest brother, and puts in a check for $3000.
Well, I hope you’re right, but the Jesuits have been generally leftist for a good many decades now.
Unlike many Catholic my age, I can't say that Jesuit training is the best. We had some scary years with our daughters when we thought they were lost to the Faith forever. However, what I can say proudly is that all my Jesuit trained children are practing Catholics today.
Good one.
“In Latin America, Jesuits have had significant influence in the development of liberation theology, which has been controversial with Catholic theologians.”
Controversial? It’s godless Marxism wrapped up in a Christian sounding veneer. Its what Jeremiah Wright espouses @ Trinity. Its Obama’s version of ‘Christianity’.
http://www.christendom-awake.org/pages/ratzinger/liberationtheol.htm
izzatzo wrote:
“If true, just more socialism from the hallowed halls of the Vatican, we don’t need it. I hope BI is incorrect.”
The words have different meanings. Pope Francis has fought the socialist government of his former homeland tooth and nail. He has written that he believes “social justice” is an interior change of heart - a conversion of soul - that will lead to a change in the external. He is not talking politics or economics, he is talking about The Good News of the Gospel. IIRC. YMMV.
“In Latin America, Jesuits have had significant influence in the development of liberation theology, which has been controversial with Catholic theologians.”
The Jesuits, indeed, were at the center of Liberation Theology in Latin America.
My recollection is that this caused the Pope at the time (~1970’s) to remove the Superior General of the Society of Jesus (Father Pedro Arrupe, and also to direct the Jesuits to correct their error and re-align their teachings about Social Justice (Social Justice means something very different in the context of Catholic theology than is does to the secular leftists).
I was subsequently told by a Jesuit theologian that I know that the Society of Jesus themselves asked the Pope to take these actions against Arrupe and the Liberation Theology proponents within their order.
That would conflict with "social justice".
Pretty good analogy. I can remember be ripped to shreds when I foolishly tried to argue with a Jesuit. Big, big emphasis on education.
There are views of “social justice” based on Marxism, and there are views of “social justice” truly based on the Gospel. Since he is an ardent opponent of liberation theology and a supporter of Communion and Liberation (which is politically conservative) he appears to support good old fashioned Christian charity as the basis of social justice, not Marxist class envy and redistribution of wealth.
THIS!
BTW: All the above B.S. is irrelavent! I am surprised that so many conservatives on this site will take up the bad habit of labeling an individual because of bad past practices other than their own. That's a liberal trait. Anyone who knows their history knows that corruption and sin and evil has existed in in various institutions at every level. What does that have to do with the individual today? My hopes are Pope Francis will continue to walk in the same humble path he has for the last 50 years.
Deacon Francis
“...The original storm troopers...”
They were called Stosstruppen.
They were armed with the early MP18 submachine guns, Lugers with 32-round snailtrommeln (Drum magazines), C96 Schnellfuer Broomhandle Mauser pistols, sharpened shovels, etc, and specialized in raiding the Brit and French trench lines, exploiting weak spots in the lines, and causing general havoc and chaos once they broke through. They were “Special Ops” guys. Moved fast, hit hard, and raised hell.
Good catch, Sherman. Thanks for bringing that up.
“...Jesuits are labelled “God’s Marines”..”
I’m liking it....
“...Jerry ‘Moonbeam’ Brown is a Jesuit...”
No, Jerry’s a Lib Moonbat first and foremost, and that overshadows any and everything he may have been before... like with most libs.
They’re Liberal first, good little party aparatchniki... that’s where their loyalties lay.
Turns out the Stosstruppen were a good deal more fragile than tanks, and a lot harder to replace. A major reason the Allies eventually won.
Yeah, flesh and blood versus steel...pretty much a foregone conclusion as to that outcome.
My priest told me this one: What are the two great mysteries that even God does not know the answer to?
Exactly how many orders of Franciscans there are and how much money the Jesuits have!
Yes, I have learned more about him today, and he seems to be a very good selection for Catholicism. We hear more about “social justice” these days in the context of Marxism than Christian activities.
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