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Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood says UN proposal on women will destroy the world
Yahoo ^ | 3/14/2014 | Dan Murphy

Posted on 03/14/2013 12:38:15 PM PDT by ckilmer

The Muslim Brotherhood of Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi has greeted a UN proposal designed to reduce violence against women with unabashed horror.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; islam; mohamedmorsi; muslimbrotherhood; obama; obamasfault; obamasfriends; waronterror; women
Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the power behind President Mohamed Morsi, usually makes its more incendiary statements in Arabic only. But such was the movement's horror at a United Nations proposal to reduce violence against women that it issued a statement in English today complaining that "the complete disintegration of society" would result if the UN adopts a set of recommendations from its Commission on the Status of Women.

While I haven't read the document in question, judging from the Brothers' response, the UN thinks it would be useful to raise the age of marriage, decriminalize homosexuality, make contraceptives more readily available, and give unmarried mothers the same rights as married ones. The Brothers are not pleased:

"The document includes articles that contradict established principles of Islam, undermine Islamic ethics and destroy the family, the basic building block of society, according to the Egyptian Constitution," the movement wrote. "This declaration, if ratified, would lead to complete disintegration of society, and would certainly be the final step in the intellectual and cultural invasion of Muslim countries, eliminating the moral specificity that helps preserve cohesion of Islamic societies."

A concern about cultural colonization is what spurred the foundation of the Muslim Brothers 80 years ago. Founding member Sayyid Qutb, executed by the Nasser regime in the 1960s for his activism, spent time in the late 1940s in the US and was horrified by what he considered the country's loose morals and materialism. A desire to preserve Egypt and Islam from what its leaders view as an external, hostile onslaught remains at the forefront of their agenda today.

They are terrified that the modern world is dragging Egyptians back to jahalliya, the age of ignorance before the coming of Islam, and made that clear in their complaint today. "These are destructive tools meant to undermine the family as an important institution," they complained of the UN proposal. "They would subvert the entire society, and drag it to pre-Islamic ignorance."

1 posted on 03/14/2013 12:38:15 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

I agree with the MB on this one.


2 posted on 03/14/2013 12:38:48 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Blind squirrels find a nut occasionally......


3 posted on 03/14/2013 12:43:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: ckilmer

Yeah, it’s sort of the Iran-Iraq War. You cheer for both sides to lose.


4 posted on 03/14/2013 12:44:27 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: ckilmer
I agree with the MB on this one.

So you want four wives? You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line.

5 posted on 03/14/2013 12:46:08 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: ckilmer
I agree with the MB on this one.

I certainly agree that the UN should mind its own business.

The vast majority of Egyptians are socially conservative. They are not like the Cairo University students the media tried to tell us would take over if Mubarak fell. The Egyptian people elected the Muslim Brotherhood, the second most popular party is even more religiously radical. Much of what the Islamic Brotherhood believes is backwards and they are certainly no friend of ours, but they are right to oppose these busy bodies at the UN trying to impose a secular left agenda on people who want nothing to do with it.

6 posted on 03/14/2013 12:48:33 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I agree with the MB on this one.

So you want four wives? You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line.
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Don’t agree on multiple wives.

Do agree that the secular humanist agenda of the UN further pushes the world into the dark ages that precede the age Abrahamic religions.


7 posted on 03/14/2013 12:50:30 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line.

It's the only way they know for sure that you love them.

8 posted on 03/14/2013 12:53:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts; ckilmer

>>So you want four wives? You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line<<

Dunno about ck, but that strategy has worked for me. Except Wife #1 — she beats me like a rented mule!


9 posted on 03/14/2013 12:55:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Establishment Republicans don't like that totalitarian thing unless it is THEIR totalitarian thing!)
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To: ckilmer

I see nothing in the (worthless) UN’s proposal that is not already the law of the land here. As such it would have no negative impact here and certainly no positive impact either. If it destroys or undermines islam, I’m all for it.


10 posted on 03/14/2013 12:56:09 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: ckilmer
You might want to re-think agreeing with the MB about relationships between the sexes.

The Brotherhood was founded by Sayyid Qtub after a visit to the U.S. He became convinced the U.S. was a society awash in sin and debauchery when he attended a dance in a church basement in Greeley, Colorado in 1949. He saw men and women dancing together and touching each other! Can you imagine!

Oh, and he thought the fair citizens of Greeley, then a dry town as to alcohol, watered their lawns too much.

Such is the crazed insanity of the MB. There is no common ground between us.

11 posted on 03/14/2013 1:19:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Longbow1969
"but they are right to oppose these busy bodies at the UN trying to impose a secular left agenda on people who want nothing to do with it. "

I'd hardly call an "anti-violence against women" campaign a "secular left agenda". It may well be part of a larger UN agenda that is leftist. But I think anything that helps muslims to recognize basic human rights is a good thing.

12 posted on 03/14/2013 1:20:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Longbow1969
"but they are right to oppose these busy bodies at the UN trying to impose a secular left agenda on people who want nothing to do with it. "

I'd hardly call an "anti-violence against women" campaign a "secular left agenda". It may well be part of a larger UN agenda that is leftist. But I think anything that helps muslims to recognize basic human rights is a good thing.

13 posted on 03/14/2013 1:20:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ckilmer

I do too, but haven’t the protected classes destroyed the world already? This affirmative action BS gave us 0bama; The emasculated coward raised by a Feminist single mother and transgender cross-dressing nanny. Generations of boys raised without fathers in the home is costing us dearly. The Female influence and control of the schools, the workplace, the media and politics has disenfranchised males and destroyed the progress of mankind. Stagnation abounds. ‘War on Women’ my azz.


14 posted on 03/14/2013 1:20:45 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: ckilmer
It's funny because one of the most hen-pecked, p-whipped guys I ever knew was an Egyptian Muslim.

On another note, we were a subcontractor to Boeing once, and the local Boeing QA rep was une femme égyptienne d'un certain âge, who had long stringy hair and and lots of gold braclets and rings and necklaces and she favored colorful folded silky clothing. I used to say she was a crystal ball short of fortune teller act.

We worked pretty closely together, and I could tell she was sweet on me, but she didn't like to show it. Somehow during some long boring testing which we were both compelled to witness, during a meandering and absolutely pointless conversation, she asserted to me that she was rich. Whether truthfully or not, I cannot tell, but I took it as an empty boast. I asked her to marry me. (Now it was out in the open! I knew she had a crush on me.) She said she could not because she was Muslim and I was Christian. I asked her why she assumed that. Besides if Omar Sharif could convert, why not me? Anyway, my German American wife most likely would have performed surgery on me that would have made the entire idea moot, had I mentioned it to her.

Now, I had this particular Egyptian woman eating out of my hand, but that's how you have to treat the your customer's QA rep. If some Muslim fool had ever tried to push ol' Esméralda around, she would have bit his fool head off.

15 posted on 03/14/2013 1:51:20 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (What word begins with "O" and ends in economic collapse?)
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To: DannyTN

Muslims in Muslim countries are compelled by the Quran and the Hadith to follow Sharia law, which is in direct contradiction to basic human rights. Thus, nothing (other than decoversion from Islam) will help them recognize basic human rights.


16 posted on 03/14/2013 3:10:28 PM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: DannyTN
But I think anything that helps muslims to recognize basic human rights is a good thing.

That will fail miserably. Either way, I don't want the UN involved in this sort of thing. Were it up to me, I'd slash our contribution to the UN and send them packing anyway.

17 posted on 03/14/2013 3:36:09 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

4 wives isn’t the problem, but 4 mother in laws might make one think twice....:o)


18 posted on 03/14/2013 4:35:46 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: muir_redwoods

Be careful of what you wish for.


19 posted on 03/14/2013 8:04:26 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: colorado tanker

You might want to re-think agreeing with the MB about relationships between the sexes.
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I don’t agree with the MB on their definition of the relationship between the sexes.

The particular thing that I agreed with them on was their fear of the effects of homosexuality and the culture of death.


20 posted on 03/14/2013 8:06:49 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

I see no downside in the destruction or damaging of islam.


21 posted on 03/14/2013 8:23:32 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: ckilmer

Frankly, UN is less evil than all islam.


22 posted on 03/15/2013 7:43:57 AM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: istandwithsarah
"Thus, nothing (other than decoversion from Islam) will help them recognize basic human rights.

I think they can recognize those rights. It will put them into conflict with Islam, and hopefully they will throw off Islam and embrace Christ.

23 posted on 03/15/2013 8:26:11 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SIRTRIS

Frankly, UN is less evil than all islam.
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The Judeo Christian tradition overturned older practices that include human sacrifice and homosexuality. That’s what the left and the UN is advocating. They are evils that people have not seen in awhile.

To read about the older practices you have to read your old testatment.


24 posted on 03/15/2013 5:52:19 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

IMO the pagan Old Testament practices, though evil, are not as evil as Islam. Not even communism is as evil as Islam.

# Deaths under communism: 85-100 million
# Deaths under Islam: 270 million

Also, Islam and Christianity operate on different definitions of homosexuality. Christians consider both pitchers and catchers to be homosexual, to put it crudely, but Muslims consider only catchers to be homosexual.


25 posted on 03/15/2013 6:46:05 PM PDT by istandwithsarah (Game on!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Note: this topic is from 3/14/2013. BTW, that UN resolution made everyone's ass look fat. Thanks ckilmer.

26 posted on 05/27/2013 3:31:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ckilmer
Not one mention in the article, or in this thread, about the actual text of the UN proposal. Just assumptions and attacking the usual labels. Pathetic.

And here's a working link to the story... link

27 posted on 05/27/2013 3:42:15 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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