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Rob Portman Comes Out
PJ Media ^ | March 15, 2013 | Stephen Green

Posted on 03/16/2013 5:32:36 AM PDT by IbJensen

Ohio Republican Senator Rob Portman, a longtime opponent of same-sex marriage, said on Friday he now believes gays have a right to marry after learning two years ago that his son is gay.

Portman, who was on the short list to be 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s running mate, made the announcement in an opinion piece in an Ohio newspaper and gave interviews on his change of heart.

“I have come to believe that if two people are prepared to make a lifetime commitment to love and care for each other in good times and in bad, the government shouldn’t deny them the opportunity to get married,” Portman wrote in an op-ed piece in the Columbus Dispatch, titled “The Freedom to Marry.”

Indeed.

The “problem” as I see it — and I put “problem” in quotes because I don’t really see it as one — is how to integrate gays into the broader American experience. They’re out, they’re proud, and they should be. Nobody is forcing anybody back into any closet, or re-criminalizing anyone’s love life, without instituting an authoritarian kind of religious state that is antithetical to American values and liberties.

But legalizing gay marriage isn’t quite the answer. Let me explain.

The vile progs want to institute gay marriage also, but not because of any love or concern for gays. Watch how easily and cruelly they throw around accusations that so-and-so is a [UNPRINTABLE WORD FOR GAY] or a [ANOTHER UNPRINTABLE WORD FOR GAY] and you’ll see what I mean. No, for the progressive left, gay marriage is just another club for beating America’s churches into submission to the State. First Catholic birth control, then Baptist gay marriage, and so on. Progressivism is a truly jealous god and will have no other gods before it — not even yours.

Instead, the proper course is to abolish marriage as a government institution. Civil unions for all who want them, gay or straight, for legal purposes of wills, benefits, hospital visitations, etc. But leave marriage where it originated: With the churches. My church will proudly marry gay couples, maybe yours won’t. But no one will be forced to do or recognize anything they don’t want to. Everyone’s rights are protected; everyone’s liberties are respected.

And, oh yeah, the vile progs lose a big battle in their war against freedom of expression.

How’s that for a win-win-win?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: evilrino; homosexualagenda; ohio; portman; randpaul; resignrob
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Portman, who ran on a platform of social conservatism, has now had an epiphany. He should resign immediately and then, if he so chooses, run on his new satanic stance. He is now a traitorous running-dog for the homosexual conspiracy that now infests all facets of our once polite society.

This evil, hell-bent gay-rights movement is communist-founded which openly announced, in its modern (post-Stonewall) manifestation, its objective of destroying marriage. Homosexual-Lesbian state-approved weddings is just another club to beat America’s churches into submission to the State."

I believe that the infestation of the Roman Catholic Church by a gaggle of homosexual pedophiles was conceived in communist minds in order to undermine Christ's Church and cause it to crumble. Their second target enemy was the western world, especially America.

1 posted on 03/16/2013 5:32:36 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

How proud he must be. And now as father of the ‘bride’ he must make sure his son gets the nicest gown and an expensive reception.

And hopefully the near future sees him having lots of butt-grandchildren.

WRONG PARTY THERE ROB!!


2 posted on 03/16/2013 5:39:29 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: IbJensen

Sen Portman was waiting for the right time to come out of the closet about why he supported gay marriage. Is this the lamest excuse ever? Back in the pagan days and in Sodom and Gomorrah they had plenty of cornholing and plenty of gay marriage. One Roman emperor married a horse. Gay marriage is a signal of a society in decline


3 posted on 03/16/2013 5:39:30 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: IbJensen

I’ve been trying to come up with an analogy, so how about this:

One of President Obama’s daughters gets married (to a man) - then, using the same logic, the president is REQUIRED to change position and be against gay marriage, based on the principle that both forms of marriage cannot exist at the same time, for any length of time - as being proven out in Europe, where marriage, to younger people, is now pretty much a thing of the past.


4 posted on 03/16/2013 5:40:59 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: IbJensen

If he’s going to betray us on that, what’s next? Would he send a donation to Planned Parenthood if he learned his daughter had an abortion? Or, as Andrea Lafferty satirically pointed out, if one of his children were a habitual drunk driver, would he suddenly announce that drunk driving should be legalized and renounce his previous opposition? It is possible to love your children without always condoning - much less institutionalizing - their choices. Yes, it is a CHOICE. I’m willing to bet the odds are 1,000,000,000 to one that if this were 10 years ago, or 100, or 1000, the younger Mr. Portman would have quietly lived his life with the partner of his choice, probably but not necessarily a woman, without politicizing his personal bedroom activities; and his father would have loved his son without seeking to change 4 or 5 thousand years of tradition on his account. From now on we can call Mr. Portman an ex-conservative, and were he to run for office again I hope his constituents will keep that in mind.


5 posted on 03/16/2013 5:42:18 AM PDT by Tabi Katz (Annoy the establishment : Vote 4 Santorum!)
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To: Tabi Katz
Portman's arguments are not well grounded ~ obviously ~ but more likely he's preparing us for his Larry Craig moment.

Someone get to this guy as soon as possible and tell him he's NO LONGER A REPUBLICAN and will not get financial support for any of this.

We know the American people will not vote for Republicans if they think the party is overrun with gays ~ SEE;2006

6 posted on 03/16/2013 5:45:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: IbJensen

If he discovered that his son was a heroin addict, would he then come out in favor of legalizing heroin?


8 posted on 03/16/2013 5:49:32 AM PDT by Hoodat (I stand with Rand.)
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To: IbJensen
FWIW, most of the locals who have vociferously "evolved" on mandatory homosexuality validation are the parents of children who are homosexual (or convinced they are). They come off as a white, upper middle-class corollary of the stereotypical female mother or grandmother who defends - at the limits of lung power - a late lamented feral urban youth.

Portman strikes me as simply one of two things (or a blend of them): a faux traditionalist or a parent who refuses to admit his kid is screwy. Ohio country club Republicans are real dandies.

Mr. niteowl77

9 posted on 03/16/2013 5:58:20 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: IbJensen
Portman is a Republican what else but mealy mouthed treachery can we expect? BTW RINO really doesn't apply to these people. RINO is no longer a pejorative but merely a descriptive. RINOs are just being what they are:Republicans.
10 posted on 03/16/2013 6:01:24 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: IbJensen
You can love your children, unconditionally, without loving everything they do.
This is a good time to stand on principle and not propagate something that you know is wrong just to appease your offspring.
There are other parents childrens fate at stake here.
As another FReeper pointed out, what if the kid was a drug addict?
Or a criminal? Would you change the laws to make it easier for him to rob banks.

11 posted on 03/16/2013 6:09:53 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: IbJensen

Just, FYI, I have been on this forum since 2000, and am certainly no troll. I vote conservative candidates only - no RINOs.

Personally, I don’t care if gay people have civil unions or whatever the heck they want to call them. Marriage is an institution of the church. That said, if civil unions keep gay men out of the bath houses and spreading HIV, then I am for it.


12 posted on 03/16/2013 6:15:48 AM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: BitWielder1

True, the same as many parents whose kids are drug addicts, doesn’t mean you think it is an okay “lifestyle choice”


13 posted on 03/16/2013 6:18:15 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: IbJensen
Portman, who ran on a platform of social conservatism,

There's your reason right there. This is a purely political move. Someone was privy to his gay son. Information was going to be withheld until maximum political milage could be gained and then a quick note to the Marxist Media to embarrass him. This is simply a pre-emptive strike on his part.

I say, whatever....
14 posted on 03/16/2013 6:20:46 AM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: IbJensen

First of all, he didn’t turn “gay.” He’s become a homosexual . . . period. “Gay” means happy, and if he thinks that the homosexual lifestyle will make him happy, he’s got another thing coming: alcoholism, STDs, gay men’s bowel syndrome, AIDs, suicide, violence, more than likely a lifespan of 39-41 years tops, etc.

I would encourage such a child to go back to church, get counseling from his priest or reverend, pray, and hope that Christ will lead him out of such a horrible lifestyle.

That’s a hell of a lot better advice than to be an enabler. Portman should be ashamed of himself.


15 posted on 03/16/2013 6:22:28 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: Smedley

Do you believe the homosexual/lesbian agenda is on a roll and have pulled out the stops in order to get this agenda into the curriculum of the government schools? This action of the perverts is not limited to their bathhouses...it is being introduced as a proper lifestyle for young kindergartners.

This marriage evil is just another ploy to gain acceptance and shove polite American society out of the picture.


16 posted on 03/16/2013 6:24:23 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen
SITUATIONAL MORALS is like situational ethics, your morality depends on the situation.
Rob Portman was against homosexual marriage until his son came out as a homosexual. SHAZAM! Now Rob Portman is for homosexual marriage. Therefore, he will probably lobby for and attempt to legislate the government legalization and sanctification of homosexual marriage. Remember, we are now a government of men and no longer a government of laws. It is now whatever the prevailing wind decides.
17 posted on 03/16/2013 6:26:19 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: laweeks

There is something radically wrong, a fact which most of us here would agree, with a young man who probably achieved his first orgasm with a member of his own sex and liked it so well he embraced it as his life’s passion.

He doesn’t see anything wrong with shoving his pee-pee up another guy’s poo-poo and then his face up his partners backside.

Examine that scenario.

It’s not only aberrant; it’s radically aberrant and abhorrent.


18 posted on 03/16/2013 6:28:49 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

He seems mighty enthusiastic about it. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him come out himself at some point. After all, don’t they claim it’s genetic, not choice?


19 posted on 03/16/2013 6:29:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: BitWielder1
As another FReeper pointed out, what if the kid was a drug addict? Or a criminal? Would you change the laws to make it easier for him to rob banks.

It is the liberal world view: as a liberal believes and lives so should the rest of us.

20 posted on 03/16/2013 6:43:42 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: Vaquero
Nothing new.

Many Rinos go both ways......sarc

21 posted on 03/16/2013 6:45:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: IbJensen

They are out and they are proud: Proud of what?

Fellatio? or sticking their thing in poop?

Is that something to be proud of?

These are sick individuals, and any father would be ashamed for his son. Sure you can still love a person and be ashamed of them at the same time.


22 posted on 03/16/2013 6:48:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: IbJensen

It is a time for chosing. Portman chose to forsake his principles. Let’s re-dedicate ourselves to God and pray we don’t forsake His principles.


23 posted on 03/16/2013 6:49:16 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: IbJensen

I hope he gets primaried. I donated to him last time. Better start looking for another candidate.


24 posted on 03/16/2013 7:00:40 AM PDT by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: IbJensen
Okay, so his son is queer. I feel sorry for the both of them. But what does that have to do with whether we should re-define marriage? Somehow the logic escapes me.
25 posted on 03/16/2013 7:01:33 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

We finally see that Portman is on about the same moral level as Kerry’s running mate. (whoever that was)


26 posted on 03/16/2013 7:03:38 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: x1stcav

That’s all well and good.

But please run somebody who at least listens to Rush a couple hours a week and understands what to do when journ-0-lists ambush you.

Six years with a progressive senator is a lot of pain.

(speaking with Hoosier experience)


27 posted on 03/16/2013 7:04:16 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: JoeFromSidney

I believe that you’re from Sidney, Ohio.

We’re transplanted Buckeyes from Troy who still maintain a residence in Ohio.


28 posted on 03/16/2013 7:06:18 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Excellent point, the term, Republican, becomes more and more disgusting.


29 posted on 03/16/2013 7:06:54 AM PDT by izzatzo (NO MORE BUSHES!)
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To: IbJensen

I fail to see how this changes anything.
It was an evil sin before his son chose to live that lifestyle so it is still an evil sin.
Its your son and you will not stop loving him but that does not mean you have to turn you back on the word of God...


30 posted on 03/16/2013 7:07:26 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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“I have come to believe that if two people are prepared to make a lifetime commitment to love and care for each other in good times and in bad, the government shouldn’t deny them the opportunity to get married,”

Oh really?
Brother and sister them?
Or Mom and son? Or a 42 year old and a 12 year old?
Why is he limiting it to 2 people? Why not 3 people?


31 posted on 03/16/2013 7:13:04 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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“That said, if civil unions keep gay men out of the bath houses and spreading HIV, then I am for it.”

What if I showed you the numbers in Canada that 9 out of every 10 are performed with non-residents?


32 posted on 03/16/2013 7:18:40 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Smedley
if civil unions keep gay men out of the bath houses and spreading HIV, then I am for it.

Does marriage keep men (and women) out of cheap motels and brothels?

33 posted on 03/16/2013 7:28:40 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: IbJensen
The son of Rob is the male ‘member’ of the proposed household and as such will have a position on top.

I used to rent out rooms in my house in Lynchburg, VA to college guys who were interning at the company I worked for as a way to afford to trek up to Baltimore to watch the O's play (Memorial Stadium).

One night we all had dates (girls) over and were listening to music and making small talk. A knock on the door revealed one of the Jerry Falwell youth fundraisers. He was selling gravesites in Fort Hill Cemetery cheap because he said they could stack the bodies in a single grave up to 6 people deep. I am not making this up.

Scott's girlfriend looks over at Scott and says, "That means, if you go first, I get top position." We all started laughing, and Falwell's disciple left.

34 posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:37 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: IbJensen

Could it be that maybe, just maybe, his kid might need psychological help, instead of condoning deviate behavior?


35 posted on 03/16/2013 7:39:52 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: IbJensen

Saul Alinsky:
RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

The press is going to have a field day with this. They know Republicans eat their own if they change positions on key issues. Portman is toast.

Democraps/Liberals/Socialists don’t have this problem. How many times has Obama flipped on an issue and they still love him. Remember, Obama was for traditional marriage during most of his first term.


36 posted on 03/16/2013 7:44:21 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Venturer

Beat me to it. Being a sodomite is NOTHING to be proud of. It’s a disease-ridden, repellent lifestyle that logically should have its members hiding away in shame. Like they USED to.

But no one has the guts to say it, not even most conservatives. If you notice, they speak out against gay MARRIAGE, but lose their nerve completely when it comes to homosexuality itself.


37 posted on 03/16/2013 8:03:44 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks IbJensen.
Ohio Republican Senator Rob Portman, a longtime opponent of same-sex marriage, said on Friday he now believes gays have a right to marry after learning two years ago that his son is gay.
Since the election is now behind us, he thought it would be okay to bring up something that he's thought for two years.
38 posted on 03/16/2013 8:04:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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They’re out, they’re proud, and they should be. Nobody is forcing anybody back into any closet, or re-criminalizing anyone’s Bible-based life, without instituting an authoritarian kind of immoral state that is antithetical to American values and liberties.

There, I fixed it. If someone who believes in Bible-ordained marriage were to say this about Christianity in the public schools, his/her job would be lost.

39 posted on 03/16/2013 8:32:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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I would “respect” his opinion, (but not agree with it), if he also supported Polygamy and Incestuous Marriage.

If he was asked why he agreed with one deviant behavior but not the others, I'm sure he would have a readily available explanation. (sarcasm alert) As of now, he supports Gay Marriage because his Son “loves” another Man.

Taking the position he just announced is based on the notion that such behavior is a Civil Right, which if accepted ingrains the behavior into Society as a norm. Well, people who want to be Polygamists or want to Marry their own Blood Relatives would tell you the same thing. The entire concept of Gay Marriage fails simply because those who accept it must also accept every deviant behavior or deny the same “Civil Rights” of those choosing to be involved in them.

40 posted on 03/16/2013 8:42:54 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A Republican freed the Slaves and a Democrat murdered Martin Luther King.)
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To: IbJensen

So much for principle.


41 posted on 03/16/2013 8:49:55 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: dennisw

Even in ancient Rome, there was no gay marriage! No society, as far as I know has ever sunk to the level of accepting homosexuality by putting it on the same footing as marriage. Think about it, this has been invented and promoted in the Christian West. The Communist world did not invent this, not the Muslim world, not the Buddhist world or the Hindu world. But the Western World which has given the world the highest form of religious expression is now hell bent on tearing down all that is holy in the Christian world.


42 posted on 03/16/2013 8:58:06 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Tabi Katz

Have you ever read the “Gay Manifesto”? Portman’s actions are right in keeping with one of the stepping stones of the gay manifesto. One of the gay’s plans was to encourage gays to “come out of the closet” to their families, then to work on their parents and families to get them to accept their homosexuality and then to use their families as advocates for acceptance of homosexuality. It has been working like a charm. A number of prominenet people, some of them Republicans and conservatives have sons or daughters who are gay, trangender etc. and they have come out to defend their children. This causes a socially difficult position within the extended family as well as their friends and colleages as it puts people in an ackward spot since they do not want to hurt the feelings of the parents.

I believe that GOProud has been using this tactic. These people have the subtlety and cleverness of the serpent. We have to find ways to counter this by standing up for our principles regardless of the emotional pressure that the gays know how to use so well.


43 posted on 03/16/2013 9:08:53 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: IbJensen
have come to believe that if two people are prepared to make a lifetime commitment to love and care for each other in good times and in bad, the government...

... is obliged to deconsruct natural marriage pe se, and invent a new, absurd institution with the same name."

What if his son had wanted to give a "lifetime commitment" to two men? Or to his grandmother? Or to a man and a woman (there's the "B" in "LGBT".)

And no that he's got a "lifetime" "commitment", is his daddy going to criminalize divorce?

There’s a word for this that has 8 letters and sounds like a fresh steaming ready-made organic fertilizer product, but it’s a word I don’t want to use on Free Republic.

44 posted on 03/16/2013 9:14:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' ." - Yogi Berra)
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Here is something from a gay website, just to see how they think and how obsessed they are with their aberrations.

http://www.thegaymanifesto.com/

45 posted on 03/16/2013 9:16:23 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: laweeks

AMEN...AMEN...AMEN!!!


46 posted on 03/16/2013 9:17:41 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: muawiyah
Someone get to this guy as soon as possible and tell him he's NO LONGER A REPUBLICAN and will not get financial support for any of this.

Unfortunately, the Ohio GOP leader has said he will continue to support Portman. Outrageous! They should be asking for his resignation, post haste!

47 posted on 03/16/2013 9:21:15 AM PDT by Jane Long ("If there's no debt crisis, why does the pResident want to raise taxes?" - TGO)
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To: IbJensen

BTTT, exactly right.


48 posted on 03/16/2013 9:24:55 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: cradle of freedom

Here is the actual Gay Manifesto. It was written by Carl Wittman who was a member of the SDS and later was an LGBT activist.

Keep this, you will find it very useful to know the enemies plans.

http://paganpressbooks.com/jpl/TRB-WITT.PDF


49 posted on 03/16/2013 9:25:46 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: cradle of freedom

Read paragraph 6 which begins with —”A note on exploitation of children” and #5 top right hand column — “Perversion”.

This is not the Gay Manifesto that I read before, that was more of a specific set of plans for changing society’s attitudes toward the whole gay attitude towards sex.

http://paganpressbooks.com/jpl/TRB-WITT.PDF


50 posted on 03/16/2013 9:43:29 AM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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