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1 posted on 03/18/2013 8:35:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
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exactly. draft them all into the army. pay them what we pay enlisted members of the armed forces. call it a day.

what could go wrong?


2 posted on 03/18/2013 8:37:18 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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Frist, founder of HCA isn’t giving away free health care from their facilities unless it is government mandated to recieve Medicare/Medicaid payment. You can bet your bottom dollar. I’m sick of being told what to do by elite pos.


3 posted on 03/18/2013 8:39:51 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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I wonder if the good people at the National Commission on Physician Payment Reform would want their heart surgery, or that of a family member, done by the surgeon who was the lowest bidder.

Oops - I forget - they will be exempted from Obamacare (but then all the good docs will retire and they'll still be in the same boat).

4 posted on 03/18/2013 8:44:18 AM PDT by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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Flip this on its head and ask back -

Why would anyone become a healthcare provider if they can just go on welfare for a better return on effort?


6 posted on 03/18/2013 8:45:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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100% of ones wage taken is slavery. At what percentage does it become freedom?


7 posted on 03/18/2013 8:50:24 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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Despite health care costs exploding as a physician we have not seen ANY increase in reimbursement for years.


8 posted on 03/18/2013 8:53:02 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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I appreciate the thesis of the article. After all, if healthcare is a right, then physicians can be forced to provide care for free, just like I can be forced to give up my paycheck to pay for someone else’s care.

There’s not enough discussion of what rights really are when the GOP opposes Obamacare.


9 posted on 03/18/2013 8:56:37 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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When your child needs brain surgery, your spine needs to be rebuilt, your mother’s faltering heart needs to be stopped and reconstructed - who wants to go with the lowest bidder?


11 posted on 03/18/2013 9:03:53 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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“Dr.” Frist, you seem to believe that your fellow doctors are enriching themselves much too much.
Do you believe that a steroid product that has just signed a $22,000,000 5 year contract is “self-eniching?”
Do you think a plastic bosomed Hollywood type is worth $3,500,000 for the making of a single movie?
Do you think the CEO of the insurance company that governs doctor’s payments is really worth that $1,500,000 per year.
I really do not have to ask those question, I know the answers already
To be frank, I truly question and doubt your sense of values.


12 posted on 03/18/2013 9:08:22 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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They want to pay for the sustainable growth rate (SGR or "doc fix") by cutting physician payments for services

Controlling doctors' fees and their methods of treatment, and thereby thoroughly bureaucratizing the field, ultimately make medicine unattractive as a profession and deter talented individuals from entering it.Cutting their fees is a good way to cut the supply of doctors just when the demand for their services are increasing. Smart move. Not.

14 posted on 03/18/2013 9:10:02 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Communists want doctors to get 3-4 times the pay of janitors. Just like in the soviet union. Look it up.


15 posted on 03/18/2013 9:10:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Ruling elite = modern day monarchy.)
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“Elimination of fee-for-servive healthcare within 5 years”?

Whoa nelly.


16 posted on 03/18/2013 9:14:25 AM PDT by plain talk
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“Eloi....”


18 posted on 03/18/2013 9:16:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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As my tagline says, socialism is slavery.


21 posted on 03/18/2013 9:32:22 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism is slavery)
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One thing I learned last year when I had surgery for cancer is that the doctor makes relative peanuts on the deal.

In my case about $3500 out of $65,000 total bill.

Frankly I was quite surprised.

So doctors could work for free without making a large impact on the total cost, at least in that case.


22 posted on 03/18/2013 9:32:43 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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Frist sold out conservative principles years ago....This group of nattering nabobs delude themselves and provide fodder for the ‘single payer’ nightmare of Europe and the Soviet Union (oops I mean Russia).

We must fight back hard against this type of nonsense. We waited too long on O care and are now trying to catch up


25 posted on 03/18/2013 9:41:08 AM PDT by Nifster
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This is a group that is fairly(pun intended)representative of the non real world physicians that have totally and completely f@cked up the practice of medicine.

To say this is the creme de la creme of elitists would be understating the extremely obvious.

31 posted on 03/18/2013 10:26:47 AM PDT by Cyman
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If Congress has authority to establish a minimum wage for certain classes of employment, it certainly has authority to establish a maximum wage.

Why not just establish a maximum wage of, say, $50/hour for the entire healthcare industry?

Fewer and fewer people will want to engage on the supply side of this industry, and shortages will naturally occur. However, healthcare is unlike other industries in that current shortages are automatically resolved by unsatisfied market demand: that is, patients die off. Voila! Herein lies the ultimate solution to the entitlements problems.


33 posted on 03/18/2013 10:34:26 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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This same argument should apply to politicians, police, fire and all government workers.


34 posted on 03/18/2013 10:38:28 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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Last week, the National Commission on Physician Payment Reform released its recommendations, calling for the elimination of fee-for-service healthcare within the next 5 years. This organization, funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, is populated by physicians from academia,...

There is your problem, right there. My husband was in private practice and is now in academia, Those who have never been in private practice have no clue where the money in their paychecks come from, at least the liberals, and they are in the majority. During the Hillarycare debacle one of his colleagues was on her task force. He described this person as a trust fund baby who felt entitled and was clueless to the realities of reimbursement. Just the type of person Hillary would deem an expert.

37 posted on 03/18/2013 11:39:03 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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