[manc]

then she is not a conservative plain and simple.
SHe is either a libertarian or a liberal but she is not a republican and the lieks of her can go and piss off and have their own convention, their own primary.

I’m sick of these idiots telling us that we shoudl change.

maybe if she got away form her elitist cocktail parties then she woudl know we don;t like having feces sex a base for marriage

[manc]

I heard Rand Paul say abotu marriage lase week which got the turd pokers excited and then I heard him say we have to change at CPAC, and i just hope he;s not his father but in a more polished way and the way he;s goimg it seems he is

[GraceG]

I have mixed feelings about this.

On one hand the State should get out of the marriage business in terms of special economic benefits from marriage etc...

On the other hand maintaining a culture DEPENDS on stable families and stable two parent NORMAL marriages are a KEYSTONE to a civil society and should be promoted and protected at all costs.

I also think that EVERY church has the right NOT to marry anyone who they don’t want getting married.

I also think that EVERY employer has a right to define what they see as a benefit and the parameters that surround it, ie. you work for a christian company you won’t get same-sex marriage benefits unless they want to offer them.

Two unmarried heterosexual people can live in sin all they want, is that not a good enough example for the homosexual couples out there....?

I think i end up more on the side that Government should get out of the business of CONTROLLING marriage be it the definition of such or the punishment of those who don’t want to fall in line of the progressive version of marriage.

[massmike]

Among G.O.P. Voters, Little Support for Same-Sex “Marriage”
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/15/among-g-o-p-voters-little-support-for-same-sex-marriage/

[Matchett-PI]

Google search words: s e cupp claims to be an atheist http://tinyurl.com/aadf3aa

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SE Cupp says she’s not apologizing for her attack on Rush
http://www.therightscoop.com/secupp-says-shes-no-apologizing-for-her-attack-on-rush/

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What I do know for sure is that S.E. Cupp is a plant or a stooge for the forces against us such as Ron Paul and Karl Rove. She was hired to do their work or help out. The New York Times piece said this:

Cupp, who is 33, defines her brand of conservatism as “rational ­ and optimistic!” She is staunchly anti-abortion but also pro-gay-marriage and a “warheads on foreheads” hawk whose heroes are Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley Jr. Like many Republicans today ­ and indeed like liberal Democrats in the 1980s, before Bill Clinton came along and charted a more centrist course ­ Cupp finds herself in the unenviable position of maintaining that Americans largely side with her party’s worldview, even if their votes suggest otherwise. “Public polling still puts the country center-right on a host of issues,” she told me.

The problem is that her party’s loudest voices sound far more right than center. The voters in Kristen Soltis Anderson’s focus groups condemned Republicans for their unchecked hatred of Obama and for threatening to take away financing for Planned Parenthood, ban abortion, outlaw gay marriage and wage war. From where they stood, at the center-right of S. E. Cupp’s domain, the party had been dragged well out of plain view.

Proximus seeks to marginalize the more strident talking heads by offering itself up to ­ or if necessary, forcing itself upon ­ the party as a 21st-century mouthpiece. “If I were training a candidate who’s against gay marriage,” Cupp told me, “I’d say: ‘Don’t change your beliefs, just say legislatively this is not a priority, and I’m not going to take away someone’s right. And if abortion or gay marriage is your No. 1 issue, I’m not your guy.’ ”

I tried to imagine how Cupp’s kinder-gentler message-coaching would go over with the Tea Party, a group that was never mentioned by the young Republicans I spoke with until I broached it. Still, the influence of the far right on the party’s image remains hard to ignore. When I brought up the subject of the Tea Party to Cupp, she said: “People aren’t repelled by the idea of limited government or balancing the budget or lowering taxes. Those Tea Party principles are incredibly popular with the public, even if they don’t know it. Again, that’s a messaging issue, that’s not a principle issue.”

She went on to say, “I don’t think we win by subtraction” ­ meaning, by casting out the party’s right wing to entice the centrists. Instead, Cupp and her fellow travelers hope to revive Lee Atwater’s bygone “big tent,” under which gay people and Tea Party members and isolationists and neocons would coexist without rancor. But Atwater, the legendary R.N.C. chairman, did not have to worry about freelance voices like Limbaugh and Todd Akin offending whole swaths of emerging demographic groups. Nor during the Atwater era, when Ronald Reagan was president, did the party’s most extreme wing intimidate other Republicans into legislating like extremists themselves, thereby further tarnishing the party’s image. When I mentioned this to the Proximus gathering, Goodwin explained the dilemma faced by Republicans in Congress. “What forces them to vote that way, 9 times out of 10, is a fear of a primary challenge,” he said. “What we hope to accomplish is to bring more voters into Republican primaries, so that it isn’t just the far right that shows up at the polls.”

34 posted on Friday, February 15, 2013 2:09:07 AM by Mozilla
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2988731/posts?page=34#34

bttt

[cdcdawg]

I don’t think all the ramifications of gay marriage have been examined. If both parties in a divorce are men, how will judges know who to screw over? I’m only joking...... sort of.

[Pollster1]

I would rather have no government recognition of marriage than have government recognition of something that is not marriage.

[Colonel_Flagg]

"I have three kids who have five parents, more or less. . . .

I'd love to hear her explain how she has three kids with four men. Right?

[lone star annie]

I was talking to a family law attorney the other day and he is all for gay marriage because this will bring them lots of new business when it comes to divorce.

[LibLieSlayer]

Hey cupp... you do realize that you will stand before GOD HIMSELF one day and answer for your evil? I know that you do not believe in HIM... but HE believes in you.

LLS

[GeronL]

Society can exist nicely even if 1% are freaks

Society can still prosper even if 1 or 2% are freaks and aren’t in the closet

Society might still survive by if 1-2% are freaks and half the people think that is “okay”.

Society will grind to a halt if 1-2% are freaks and the government forces everyone to pretend its okay and normal and celebrate it.

Society will crumble when we tolerate, condone, prech, celebrate and teach children to be freaks.

[NKP_Vet]

Sounds to me like SE Cupp has being doing some muff-diving.

[Elsie]

Cupp identifies herself as a "proponent of gay rights,"...

Genesis 13:13

Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

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2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.

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But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 

 

 

 

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I’m out of touch with the republican party.

[lentulusgracchus]

[Article]
"CPAC's decision to sideline GOProud and Log Cabin Republicans makes me increasingly uncomfortable,"she said.

Well, boo frickin' hoo, honey. What did you expect at a conservative conference?

And anyway, when was the last time your Prog-Rat pals sponsored a "Free Markets" table at some Dim Rat conclave?

[montag813]

I don’t recall a single person lamenting the absence of S.E. Cupp at CPAC.

[x]

Masha Gessen, a lesbian and a journalist, spoke frankly about this at a conference in Sydney, Australia, last summer. "It's a no-brainer that we should have the right to marry," she said. "But I also think equally that it's a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist."

I guess everything looks like a "no-brainer" when you have no brain.

Seriously, that's one of those conversation or argument stoppers that should probably be avoided even if it weren't stale and flat by now.

And I have to wonder about Masha's logic. If it's obvious that marriage should not exist, how is it also obvious that she should be allowed to participate in the institution?

And vice versa (or mutatis mutandis, ceterus paribus, or whatever), if it's so intuitively obvious that she and her partner should have the right to marry, doesn't that imply that the institution she wants into should continue to exist?

The banner of "marriage equality" is frayed and torn asunder, with bits blowing in the wind, strips jagged and littering streets. Marriage, however, lives and breathes. As do those who salute her.

Ick! That's the kind of "beautiful writing" commentators should avoid. Also, it's the kind of fake, flip, smug, dismissive conclusion they should forgo. And it doesn't fit the rest of the article, which certainly gives conservatives or Christians plenty of reason to worry about the future of marriage.

[Lancey Howard]

Cupp is a pig, whoring herself out to the scum at MSNBC for some paychecks.
She’s dead to me.

[Lancey Howard]

Yeah, let's cave to THIS culture.

[cradle of freedom]

Funny the Republican party can afford to ignore traditional Americans.