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Are Guns Declining?
The New York Sun ^ | March 10, 2013 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 03/18/2013 4:59:07 PM PDT by neverdem

News that the share of American homes with guns has been declining for four decades is best seen as a wake-up call to those who believe in the original principles of the American compact. The New York Times is fronting the news based on data from the General Social Survey, which is a data collection operation based at the Chicago University. The Times’ analysis of its data suggests that gun ownership has, as the Times puts it, “fallen across a broad cross section of households since the early 1970s” in cities and rural areas and all regions of the country. What it calls the “household gun ownership rate” has plunged to 34% in 2012 from more than 50% in the 1970s.

This plunge is a shocking and dangerous development in a nation whose system of government was framed on an understanding that widespread, private gun ownership was one of the struts of liberty. The dispatch in the Times, a shrewdly crafted scoop, notes that the findings “contrast with the impression left by a flurry of news reports about people rushing to buy guns and clearing shop shelves of assault rifles after the massacre last year at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.” It reckons the declining ownership rate “suggests that even as the conversation on guns remains contentious...”

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In any event, the Times reports that the trend “raises questions about the future politics of gun control.” The way it poses the question is this: “Will efforts to regulate guns eventually meet with less resistance if they are increasingly concentrated in fewer hands — or more resistance?” By our lights it’s a good question, one that invites a reconsideration of the strategy being pursued by those of us who believe that the Second Amendment is the “palladium” of our liberty...

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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Who's blabbing about it except in states without any restrictions?
1 posted on 03/18/2013 4:59:07 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Who's blabbing about it except in states without any restrictions?

Exactly. Mine got stolen a while back.
2 posted on 03/18/2013 5:03:21 PM PDT by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: neverdem

BS meter alert!

Maybe gun owners are just less inclined to tell people what they own.


3 posted on 03/18/2013 5:04:16 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: neverdem

Despite the 70 million background checks since Obama took power, gun ownership is declining. I blame boating accidents.


4 posted on 03/18/2013 5:06:51 PM PDT by Pollster1
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To: Hugin
Maybe gun owners are just less inclined to tell people what they own.

Nonsense, everyone knows about the rash of canoe incidents involving guns are on the rise.

5 posted on 03/18/2013 5:07:51 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: neverdem

i believe the stats are ncorrect, or people gave false answers.


6 posted on 03/18/2013 5:08:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem

HA! HA! What a joke.

People reporting they have guns to idiot poll takers have declined.


7 posted on 03/18/2013 5:08:36 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Hugin

Either that or, possibly, the ones the “may” have guns got a whole lot more than they used to have. I mean really? Since hussein was immaculated, background checks have topped 65 million. That’s a lot of firepower. Maybe.


8 posted on 03/18/2013 5:09:27 PM PDT by rktman (BACKGROUND CHECKS? YOU FIRST MR. PRESIDENT!(not that we'd get the truth!))
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To: neverdem
yeah, right...

9 posted on 03/18/2013 5:09:54 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem

We have had record guns sale since Obama has been elected. I personally know at least 20 people who have purchased a gun, most have bought multiple guns, who never had guns before. Most of these suburbanites come from families who haven’t owned guns in a couple of generations.
This is total BS anti-gun propaganda. The only place where gun ownership is declining is in the states that illegally ban law-abiding citizens from owning them.


10 posted on 03/18/2013 5:10:46 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Hugin

“...gun owners are just less inclined to tell people what they own....”

Ding! Ding! Ding! Folks, we have a winner!

And just who is it who wants to know, most of the time? Some anonymous pollster at the other end of an intrusive dinnertime phone call, that’s who!

When asked, reply, “Who wants to know and why?”


11 posted on 03/18/2013 5:11:22 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: neverdem
Are Guns Declining?

Yep. That is why there is a 2 year back order on some guns.

Too stupid to even believe.
12 posted on 03/18/2013 5:11:23 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

The 5 million sales in the last few months will help resupply those that disappeared.


13 posted on 03/18/2013 5:11:32 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Pollster1

You too? My dad’s and mine and the rest of the family’s firearms were lost when our boat capsized. Picnic lunch too!


14 posted on 03/18/2013 5:12:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: elcid1970

A pollster would never reach me. I have special ring tones for family and friends. Anyone else can leave a message.


15 posted on 03/18/2013 5:15:25 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: neverdem

This is why the media can never be trusted. they produce this trash to push their desire. They WANT it to be so thus they print or INVENT that it is so to invent perception...one of the most dangerous times in our nation is right now and it is a reason like this that makes it so dangerous.


16 posted on 03/18/2013 5:15:48 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: neverdem

The one gun I have left after a tragic tornado accident (we have no surface water near here) is inclining, rather than declining. If your gun declines, you are liable to shoot yourself or somebody else in the foot.


17 posted on 03/18/2013 5:16:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: neverdem

“Br’er Fox, he lay low...”


18 posted on 03/18/2013 5:20:45 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: neverdem

If guns are “declining”, why are the commie buffoons on Capitol Hill working so hard to start confiscating them?


19 posted on 03/18/2013 5:23:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: SkyDancer
Picnic lunch too!

Probably for the best if you had a Big Gulp in there.

20 posted on 03/18/2013 5:24:51 PM PDT by Pollster1
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To: neverdem
Are Guns Declining?

Only when I'm shooting downhill.

21 posted on 03/18/2013 5:27:33 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Pollster1

LOL - nope, some Whoop A** and gator aid type stuff. All gone. >snif<


22 posted on 03/18/2013 5:30:41 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: neverdem

Here is a question, since “Ann” who calls me daily to help me with lower credit card bills, who responds to random phone calls?


23 posted on 03/18/2013 5:33:23 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Forget Mexico. Put the border fence around California.)
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To: neverdem

Sigh
All mine just plumb disappeared one long weekend, several years ago.
Guess I just forgot where I left ‘em.


24 posted on 03/18/2013 5:44:48 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Chode

I do tend to believe it. New households, younger people who have been indoctrinated all their lives against guns and any bitter clinger symbols — many of these are urban apartment dwellers — sure I believe they aren’t buying guns. We all know counter examples, and people who have always had guns are buying more along with many new customers, but I do believe it.

Certain FReepers are also skeptical on the homo marriage polls. Believe it. These changes are really happening to society. The polls, although capable of exaggeration, bias and loaded questions, do tend to be right. They were on the election even as FReepers heavily criticized their oversampling of democrats. Turned out to be right on.

This rapid decline, quickening at a parabolic rate, is hard for many of us to take. But no sense in denying it is happening.


25 posted on 03/18/2013 5:45:37 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Red in Blue PA
hehehe...make me laugh!
Gander Mtn & Bass Pro Shops (yeah, they sell guns & ammo)
have so many firearms/ammo customers they now have the 'take a number' dispensers onsite.
26 posted on 03/18/2013 5:46:00 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 3Fingas

Plus the number of CHL’s has gone through the roof in recent years.


27 posted on 03/18/2013 5:58:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem

Let’s see....

315 Million people...X....34% = 107 Million + gun owners in America,

I doubt this should give anyone considering weapon confiscation, any comfort....

Especially since it’s likely a lowball number....


28 posted on 03/18/2013 6:00:12 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: steve86
maybe in the cities, but out here in the hills, boys still call a fag a fag, can't wait to get their first BB-gun and are taught to shoot from an early age... and Chicago University is hardly an unbiased institution that is quite capable of making the stats fit their views

then again city populations are on the rise

29 posted on 03/18/2013 6:11:09 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

I’m in a place like you are but most people aren’t.


30 posted on 03/18/2013 6:13:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: neverdem

31 posted on 03/18/2013 6:16:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: mylife

Most those people I mentioned also have CHLs now too. Leftists have no idea what can of worms they will open if they try to ban guns. I predict a butt-kicking for them in the mid-terms unless the Repubs do something to shoot themselves in the feet again.


32 posted on 03/18/2013 6:19:13 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: neverdem

I’ll bet that a phone survey in Berlin in 1932 would have found many fewer Jewish households admitting that fact than a few decades earlier.

The poll is toro mierda, a libtard’s fever fantasy.


33 posted on 03/18/2013 6:21:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Secret Agent Man
He who pays for the study/survey gets the results he desires.

Always follow the money trail.

34 posted on 03/18/2013 6:23:34 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: All
Gallup: Gun Ownership Soars To 18 Year High: 47% Of Americans Admit To Owning A Gun October 26, 2011


35 posted on 03/18/2013 6:25:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: All
The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out for them in the last two decades...

And in the last two months... (Dec. 2012 and Jan. 2013)

MOLON LAVE! ;-)

36 posted on 03/18/2013 6:34:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Pollster1
Yeah!

We need more stringent boat control laws...

37 posted on 03/18/2013 6:48:02 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: neverdem

I read recently, regarding the buying frenzy, that there was a gun sale every 1.5 seconds.

It’s probably slowed down a little...but only because there’s a shortage on guns...


38 posted on 03/18/2013 7:11:34 PM PDT by moovova
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To: hadaclueonce

“Ann...(heavy breathing) The calls are coming from within the house!!!”


39 posted on 03/18/2013 7:13:08 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: neverdem

Leave it to the idiot left media to report the exact opposite of truth, facts and reality.


40 posted on 03/18/2013 7:30:11 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Hugin
"BS meter alert! Maybe gun owners are just less inclined to tell people what they own."

I suppose they didn't even bother to try counting guns owned by trespassing foreign nationals.
41 posted on 03/18/2013 8:30:43 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: 3Fingas
This is total BS anti-gun propaganda. The only place where gun ownership is declining is in the states that illegally ban law-abiding citizens from owning them.

Here in Illinois we are "allowed" to own guns, just not carry them. Visit this place some time:

Pekin Gun and Sporting Goods 281 Derby St Pekin, IL. (309) 347-6060

Be prepared to park on the street as the parking lot is always jammed full and has been that way since zero's first election.

I bought a pistol there about 5 years ago, it's a good sized place but was literally packed with customers.

42 posted on 03/18/2013 8:51:19 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Chode

There she is again.

I am transfixed...


43 posted on 03/18/2013 8:53:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: neverdem

Who here would tell a pollster the truth about whether or not they owned guns?


44 posted on 03/18/2013 10:14:19 PM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: hadaclueonce; All

I’ve been getting 2 or 3 of these calls a week recently. When I talk to them and try to find out who they are, they hand up on me. Anyone know how to actually catch these guys to report them?


45 posted on 03/18/2013 11:00:58 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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46 posted on 03/18/2013 11:35:20 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Graybeard58

DRINKMOREOVALTINE


47 posted on 03/19/2013 12:13:58 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: hadaclueonce

“Ann” and the people she works for should die in a fire.

Proof of the worthlessness of the no-call list and enforcement thereof.


48 posted on 03/19/2013 3:57:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Jet Jaguar
glad i could help your day... 8^)
49 posted on 03/19/2013 4:51:44 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Brainwashing our children AGAINST guns starts early in their education process. The day will soon be upon us when the population firmly believes that “Guns are Evil”. (It is getting very close). I do believe the day will come when we no longer will be allowed to own guns for that very reason.


50 posted on 03/19/2013 4:59:29 AM PDT by DaveA37
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