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Trouble Brewing in GOP
Townhall.com ^ | March 19, 2013 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 03/19/2013 5:15:46 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: COBOL2Java

Those in charge of the Republican party have driven it so far off of Reagan’s highway that it’s truly in doubt whether anyone can bring it back.


The party is not the problem. The country and it’s demographic is the problem. There is no political solution to our problem. We passed that point years ago.


21 posted on 03/19/2013 5:37:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Kaslin
The lying, backstabbing GOP created ObamaCARE and gay marriage, and then blamed everyone else.



22 posted on 03/19/2013 5:37:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Timber Rattler

That may be true at present, but they’re in very small numbers in the USCP. A big infusion of pissed-off, motivated, erstwhile GOP conservatives would overwhelm the defeatists’ numbers. This would be preferable to having to disentrench the spineless, defeatist bunch of losers unwilling to fight for anything in the GOP.


23 posted on 03/19/2013 5:38:36 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: COBOL2Java

Those in charge of the Republican party have driven it so far off of Reagan’s highway that it’s truly in doubt whether anyone can bring it back.


You can easily see what happens when “trash” moves into your neighborhood. Without exception, the neighborhood starts to take on the look of the “trash” that moved in. After a while, the entire neighborhood has “gone to seed.”

Once it has “gone to seed” the condition in terminal and can never be fixed. It just gets worse and worse until it becomes a full blown ghetto.

That is the Republican party of today.

It’s time to move out of the neighborhood and start life anew.


24 posted on 03/19/2013 5:38:57 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: cuban leaf

I hope you haven’t forgotten that we had the attacks on 9/11 and two wars. Otherwise STHU


25 posted on 03/19/2013 5:39:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
The abomination of abortion will end in our lifetime (at least in America) Republicans are on the right side of history on this issue.

However there are two other issues Republicans are on the wrong side of history on. Drug legalization and Gay Marriage. I have moved to a more libertarian position on both of these issues. As Paul (and I was not a supporter of his during the primaries) said, the government shouldn't even be involved with “licensing” marriages to begin with, and thus shouldn't be in the business of deciding who can or can't marry. And the same goes for drugs. The government shouldn't be telling we the people what we can or can't eat or drink.

The Republicans do need to tweek their message a little bit. But it should be tweeked toward freedom, even if it means people use that freedom to do perverted things to willing others or to pollute their bodies with dangerous chemicals.

Freedom should never mean the freedom for us to decide what another can or can't do with their body (not talking about abortion) but freedom to do with their own body whatever they see fit (so long as it doesn't infringe on anothers rights)

26 posted on 03/19/2013 5:39:46 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: cuban leaf

True, but the Republican Party is also still the party of the likes of people like Ted Cruz and Louie Gohmert. A LOT of the problem can be reflected back at us, the people, for our lack of strategy, unification, and unwilling to really fight beyond lip service. We need a reset on our end (the people) and stop looking for DC for the solution but start at the bottom again. Our own ‘community organizing’. Start in our neighborhood, schools, and churches. Don’t just give up on them and hope someone ‘from there government who is here to help’ will champion us. Run for local office or school board. Become Republican precinct chairs (probably the most powerful position in the election cycle). Be active locally. We started heading that direction then the train went off the track as we kept looking for that national leader when we as individuals should be leaders.


27 posted on 03/19/2013 5:41:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: cripplecreek
You don’t have to pander or offer anything in order to reach out to Americans who need conservatism most but fear it.

The Democrats are writing the narrative defining what conservatives are. American who need to hear the conservative message are listening to the narrative of the Democrats.

To bad we can't elect Bill Whittle to be the spokesman for Conservative Republicans.

28 posted on 03/19/2013 5:41:19 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: mnehring

Any third party is a joke, if you ask me


29 posted on 03/19/2013 5:41:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: cuban leaf

You could very well be true, in which case we’re just circling the drain.


30 posted on 03/19/2013 5:42:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Resettozero

Thanks


31 posted on 03/19/2013 5:42:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Medicare Part D


32 posted on 03/19/2013 5:44:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: frogjerk
Many threads championing cowardice on social issues just to win an election

Yep, just go back and review the Santorum and ABO/Romney threads and you'll see all kinds of nasty comments directed at "St Rick," "Bible Thumpers," and "holier-than-thou evangelicals" by some of our very own in-house FR fiscal Conservatives. Remember their oft-repeated line about "electing a president and not a preacher?"

33 posted on 03/19/2013 5:44:28 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: basil

One thing we have to do is to stop fighting each other. Division does not help us one bit


34 posted on 03/19/2013 5:45:03 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: mgist

Of course, and no one should be surprised


35 posted on 03/19/2013 5:46:02 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Rolling over and dying is counter productive.


36 posted on 03/19/2013 5:46:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
...the government shouldn't even be involved with “licensing” marriages to begin with..

..and Paul is wrong. As long as there are legal issues tied to it, such as inheritance, property ownership, taxes, etc and as long as it is a legally binding contract, the government has the responsibility under the Constitution to ensure that there are clear legal definitions and the law is equally applied (Article 1 Section 8 'Weights and Measures' clause per the Federalist papers, Measures includes uniform definitions that pertain to legal matters. Also 14th Amendment, the equal protection clause).

In order for government to be out of it, it would immediately require that all existing legal contracts that pertain to it be either voided or changed (a boom for lawyers). All pending or recently passed litigation in relation to marriage issues (such as divorce property issues) would/could be challenged.

You then have the one hundred million or so married couples who no longer have legal contracts recognized and you run into another Constitutional issue regarding Ex Post Facto laws.

37 posted on 03/19/2013 5:47:00 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Kaslin

If there’s any resurrection, it’s going to first come from the states outward. That being said, the good work that the Tea Party and Sarah Palin are doing is beginning to show forth with people like Ted Cruz. Here’s hoping 2014 will continue that pace.


38 posted on 03/19/2013 5:48:30 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Kaslin

“But today many libertarian-oriented conservatives are singing from the liberal libertine hymnal that the GOP needs to remake its image as more inclusive, less tolerant, less judgmental and less strident.”

He is correct. The Libertarians (Libertines actually) are destroying the Reagan coalition. I am primarily a SOCON, and I cannot abide Libertarians (calling themselves GOP) like Rand Paul anymore than N.E. liberal republicans being part of the party. IF guys like Rand Paul are the “future” of the GOP, then I will no longer be part of it. Guys like McCain are RINOs but he was rigth to call Rand Paul a “wack job.” While Paul was correct regarding his concern on Drones used against U.S. citizens, he is so terribly wrong on other issues.

They just don’t make “Ronald Reagans” anymore that hold balanced conservative views.


39 posted on 03/19/2013 5:49:04 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: mnehring

Marriages were not licenced in the US until Jim Crow, and it wasn’t an issue at all.

The whole concept of licencing marriage was to prevent “mixed” marriages.


40 posted on 03/19/2013 5:52:33 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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