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1 posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg
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Here is the speech without media commentary, people can read for themselves and decide.


2 posted on 03/19/2013 7:05:35 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.

LOL! And the union thug crowd goes wild!

3 posted on 03/19/2013 7:08:14 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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Imagine 12 million more Democrat voters!


5 posted on 03/19/2013 7:09:39 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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Just curious. Does anyone know if you have to press 1 for Spanish in Mexico?


7 posted on 03/19/2013 7:10:31 AM PDT by Maceman
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From what we have seen so far, he suffers from a bipolar political disease.


8 posted on 03/19/2013 7:10:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Well, scratch another one off the list.

Or, perhaps I should have written:

Bien, rasguñe otro uno de la lista.


11 posted on 03/19/2013 7:15:11 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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No mas, Senor Paul.


19 posted on 03/19/2013 7:26:12 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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It is absolutely vital for both the success of our immigration policy and for the purposes of national security that we finally secure our borders. Not to stop most immigrants from coming-we welcome them and in fact should seek to increase legal immigration. The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Just admit it, Rand, your position is open borders, just as open borders is the libertarian position.

Republicans need to become parents of a new future with Latino voters or we will need to resign ourselves to permanent minority status.

Total delusion. Amnesty will insure permanent minority status for Republicans. 60/40, 70/30? The most recent arrivals (illegal aliens) will break even less for Repubicans. Probably near 80/20.

Hopefully, the state of Kentucky will see fit to find a real conservative senator when Rand is up for reconsideration.

21 posted on 03/19/2013 7:30:37 AM PDT by Will88
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At a young age, I came to understand that it makes a difference whether you are a documented immigrant or an undocumented immigrant, that the existence was not easy for the undocumented . . .

Well, Rand, you are supposed to be a smart free market guy. If your friend gets suddenly legalized and make tres Dolars per hour, what is going to stop the next unscrupulous employer to bring in his replacement illegal at tres Dolars, por dia?

22 posted on 03/19/2013 7:30:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society.

This is a pipe dream. If they come out of the shadows, it will be to collect welfare checks. They will never be assimilated, unless we decide to start speaking Spanish to accommodate them.

23 posted on 03/19/2013 7:31:22 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

31 posted on 03/19/2013 7:46:43 AM PDT by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

Let's start that converstion by acknowledging you aren't going to get my vote.

32 posted on 03/19/2013 7:46:57 AM PDT by bgill
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I'm not sure who he's talking to with much of this speech, but I see that he's showing he's not a heartless monster.

Still...if I only read the first parts, I'd be inclinded to think he had sold out, that he abandoned the Constitutional principles he stood for and those who follow the laws, those who immigrate the legal way, as did his ancestors and mine, and those who work, or want to, and those who spent a lifetime "contributing" to the social systems now diluted, those promises broken.

The progressives tell us that we are told to embrace this unlevel playing field tilted in favor of those who have bypassed the gates, the many who now ride the train for free. Don't tell me they are the same as those who followed the rules, through good times and the bad.

So, while I reject his opening remarks and syrupy emotional framing of illegal immigrants as not speaking to me and starting to piss me off, the more I read, I find the points that need to be made to support this statement:

My plan will not grant amnesty or move anyone to the front of the line.

1) Lock down the border. ("Trust and Verify" whatever that means and looks like.)

2) Increase/reform legal immigration. "Modernize" the system and border security.

3) Document the "undocumented" workers with work visas.

He has repeatedly said it starts with border security.

He left me with the impression he wouldn't support anything that didn't secure the border first.

On this point, I completely agree. Start, or stop, there.

33 posted on 03/19/2013 7:48:44 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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Ted Cruz?


35 posted on 03/19/2013 7:54:34 AM PDT by manic4organic (It was nice knowing you, America.)
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Spare me the liberal bleeding heart screed Rand. There's a reason why it's called ILLEGAL immigration. Jumping the border, violating a ton of laws in the process, and then giving US citizens the middle finger, while belligerently demanding amnesty and free sh!t is no way to win people over to your cause. If these a**holes put as much effort into fixing the problems in mexico as they they do trying to break into the US, they would have no reason to come here in the first place.

Of course, we know that will never happen, because too much money changes hands just to keep the whole thing going. So, I have an idea. The mexicans have announced that their expropriating their state run oil company PEMEX. I say that US companies are allowed to take over all of PEMEX’s assets as repayment for having to support 1/3 of the mexican population for who knows how long. Otherwise, we ship back every single illegal, and let the mexican government have to deal with them for a change.

43 posted on 03/19/2013 8:01:10 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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Does anyone remember “Operation Wetback” ?

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Operation_Wetback?o=2801&qsrc=999

Operation Wetback in action

The effort began in California and Arizona in 1954 and coordinated 1,075 Border Patrol agents, along with state and local police agencies. Tactics employed included going house to house in Mexican-American neighborhoods and citizenship checks during standard traffic stops.

Some 750 agents targeted agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions per day. By the end of July, over 50,000 illegal aliens were caught in the two states. An estimated 488,000 illegal aliens are believed to have left voluntarily, for fear of being apprehended. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and the INS estimated that 500,000 to 700,000 had left Texas of their own accord. To discourage illicit re-entry, buses and trains took many deportees deep within Mexican territory before releasing them.

Some say we can't deport them all, I say remember Ike!!

44 posted on 03/19/2013 8:08:44 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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The big problem here is that the basis for his reasoning, one of the first things he mentions, is that Hispanics have common ground with Republicans on social and economic issues but are driven away over the stance on immigration.

That simply isn’t true. The overwhelming issue that had Hispanics voting for Dems in 2012 was their support for ObamaCare. That IS a social/economic issue, one that represents a chasm between the GOP and Hispanics.

Moving positions on immigration won’t change that, but it will create more voters who are supportive of Dems on a whole host of other issues.


46 posted on 03/19/2013 8:17:05 AM PDT by tanknetter
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First Rand called Israel an ally and now this!!!!
The Paulista goose steppers gotta be going wild lol


48 posted on 03/19/2013 8:21:31 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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They don’t call it “the Reconquista” for nuthin’ !!


56 posted on 03/19/2013 8:57:36 AM PDT by Road Glide
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What bull $h#t! Typical pubbie turncoat....anything for a vote.


57 posted on 03/19/2013 9:02:00 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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