The proponents of amnesty are wont to create the false choice between a blanket amnesty and mass deportation of 12 to 20 million illegal aliens. In reality, we have other choices and alternatives that don’t reward people who have broken our laws with the right to stay and work here and an eventual path to citizenship. The 12 to 20 million illegal aliens did not enter this country overnight and they will not leave overnight. Attrition through enforcement works. We have empirical data from Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Arizona proving that it does. Romney was right on self-deportation--he just used some in-artful terms.
As I said, kids trafficed to here and raised here with the support of the government as the courts now entitle them to (the kids) public school and then they get that degree, are seen as victims and they will aways be seen as such. Romney learned that the hard way.
Those who buy the leftist framing of the issue, yes. The reality is that they are the lucky ones who had the privilege of having access to our schools and medical facilities. Plyler versus Doe should be revisited. If you read the decision, you will find it was based on costs to the school district, i.e., they were minimal. Things have changed with one out of ten is country being the child of an illegal alien, either brought here or born here. The costs are enormous. Here in Fairfax County, VA, we pay $104 million a year just in ESOL costs for 31,000 foreign language students out of 181,000 students in the system. The number of ESOL students grew by a third in just the past year.
Calling those ones trafficed here as kids and raised here criminals is just seen as demanding they where a sign labeled ‘illegal’ on their clothes as a gold star. Heck, dont the Muslims sentence raped wimmin to beatings for fornication? I bet that lowers the rapes, or reported ones anyway.
The legal term is unauthorized alien. The Left likes to use such terms as undocumented worker rather than illegal alien because that is "demeaning." This PC crap has to stop. When you commit a crime there are consequences. Are we supposed to call them undocumented students? Guest students? Comparing them to Holocaust victims wearing gold stars is beyond the pale.
In Muslim countries, if that is your standard, they usually kill the women thru honor killings. In fact there have been honor killings by Muslims in the US and Germany.
Romney used immigration to destroy Perry then they came out to vote to make sure he lost. If Romney won on that stand then it could be a different game.
Perry deserved to be destroyed over his stand. Romney should have been even tougher on the immigration issue. Unfortunately he toned it down due to pressure from Murdoch. Immigration can be a winning issue for Reps who know how to use it. For example, Romney should have pointed out the insanity of bringing in 1.2 million legal immigrants a year while 23 million Americans were looking for full time employment. Or pointing out the disproportionate and high use of welfare by immigrants? Or the wisdom of adding 130 million to our population over the next 40 years, 80% due to immigration and its impact on infrastructure, the environment, etc.
The only ‘mass deportation’ I see related to this is hispanics deporting GOP POTUS candidates for calling those who look just like their kids ‘criminals’ for symply being ‘illegal’.
Like they helped deport Romney for 'self deportation'.
As far as the Wise Latinos demanding citizenship for those here legally (once illegallY) but barred from pathway to voting, if the Wise Latinos on future courts want that they already got an excuse to do what you suggest:
Obama’s Dreamer program that lets them stay here. All the excuse they need.
Good point.
If taxpayers are forced to invest all that money educating children who are trafficked illegally to here to the US by adults (who are criminals), and those kids actually stay in the school and succeed then its a impossible case to label them ‘criminals’.
Any reform bill should make it a felony for adults to traffic children here illegally, there ya go. Why the hell didnt Reagan do that?
But you don't beat the rape victims for fornication as they do in Iran, That is political suicide.
Yep,
Romney SURE helped Dems get Hispanics to vote last year, to deport him, that is why the GOP is terrified now climbing all over themselves to give illegals, err Dreamers, the vote. Romney was the ‘tough on illegals’ guy’
Good old Romney, what a f,... loser.
kabar, I should’ve pinged you to my post #65. I use a premise in there that I was debunking, that came from your post, but forgot to put your name on mine to sickoflibs.
I will agree to disagree with you about Rick Perry.