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Colo. Corrections Dept. chief shot, killed at home (irony warning)
AP ^ | 3/20/2013 | P. SOLOMON BANDA and NICHOLAS RICCARDI

Posted on 03/20/2013 6:32:10 PM PDT by markomalley

The fatal shooting of Colorado's top prisons official when he answered the front door at his house highlights a troubling reality for the nation's judges, prosecutors and other legal officials: At a time when attacks on them are rising, it's difficult for them to remain secure, even when they are off duty.

Investigators do not yet know why Tom Clements, 58, was shot around 8:30 p.m. Tuesday at his home just north of Colorado Springs. They could not rule out any possibilities, including that it was a random shooting or that it was an attack related to Clements' job, authorities said.

While small in numbers, similar attacks on officials have been increasing in the U.S. in recent years, said Glenn McGovern, an investigator with the Santa Clara County District Attorney's office in California who tracks such incidents worldwide. He said there have been roughly as many in the past three years - at least 35 - as the entire prior decade. Revenge is usually the motive, he added.

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One would figure that this official would be completely safe after Colorado's comprehensive gun control law was signed...

Ya don't figure that the perp forgot to read the Colorado Code of Statutes?

(/sarc)

1 posted on 03/20/2013 6:32:10 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

At some point, I expect this sort of thing to be quite common.


2 posted on 03/20/2013 6:33:45 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: markomalley

Anyone seen Henry Bowman lately?


3 posted on 03/20/2013 6:33:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: markomalley

I think it was a single shot to the chest. It doesn’t look like an “assault weapon” with a 30 round clip was used.


4 posted on 03/20/2013 6:37:08 PM PDT by laplata
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To: markomalley

Um, his residential information would NOT be published anywhere. Also, it would not be accessible at the courthouse. Almost all policemen’s residential information is NOT public record. This was a professional hit.


5 posted on 03/20/2013 6:39:34 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Uh yes it would be. Very easy to find information on the El Paso County Assessor website
http://land.elpasoco.com/SearchResults.aspx?lastname=&firstname=&street=colonial+park&type=&dir=&from=0&to=999999
This search took two clicks


6 posted on 03/20/2013 6:42:49 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: markomalley
And yet, these oathbreaking tyrants continue to act as if they can trample people's Constitutional rights with impunity, and remain unscathed.

The only thing that protects oathbreakers, in reality, is the longsuffering of the American people, and our reticence to take life while abuses can still be suffered. But there will come a point when that will no longer be enough to protect the oathbreakers, and they will lose their lives as surely as this man did.

7 posted on 03/20/2013 6:43:07 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I have five cops living in my neighborhood and everyone of them is listed on the assessors’ website. Not arguing if this was a professional hit or not, but obtaining public information on people’s residences is not difficult in El Paso county.


8 posted on 03/20/2013 6:44:49 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: backwoods-engineer

But there will come a point when that will no longer be enough to protect the oathbreakers, and they will lose their lives as surely as this man did.


Yep.


9 posted on 03/20/2013 6:46:05 PM PDT by laplata
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To: ebersole

Begs the question ...

Why is this guy getting a sweetheart deal on prop. taxes ???

Assessed value is <10% of market value.

Assessed at $43,280 with a market value of $543,682

Something fishy here.


10 posted on 03/20/2013 6:46:36 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I saw this in Central America. The gangs, particularly MS-13, have the ability to destabilize a democracy using these tactics. The prison wardens and guards are particularly vulnerable.


11 posted on 03/20/2013 6:49:28 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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Old-time US criminals NEVER carried out revenge attacks on law enforcement: it drew too much heat. But now, between international terrorism and the Mexicifation of America, this may change: Mexican gangs have been fierce in retaliating against/intimidating Mexican officials and police. Why would they not try it here? Quick , let’s legalize 11 million illegals. We had a great country once: it is being destroyed from within by selfish, unpatriotic politicians. The Democrats are the worst—there is not a real American among them now—, but many Republicans no better. God help us.


12 posted on 03/20/2013 6:49:37 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: George from New England

Nothing fishy with that...that’s how the tax is assessed in CO. One of the only remaining benefit of living in Colorado is our low property tax. Give the liberals some time and they’ll find a way to screw us on that as well. My home’s assessed value is 420k and yearly property tax is about 2200.


13 posted on 03/20/2013 6:51:12 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: markomalley
Live in Colorado. This is a front page Denver Post (Colorado’s leading newspaper) story. ABC Evening News with Diane Sawyer had this story at the top of their newscast. Yet locally, here on the western slope of Colorado, where I live ... nothing on the local evening news. This market is fledgling territory for newscasters ... most of them go nowhere in the media, the few that do are typically gone to larger broadcast venues quickly. This is bush league media country.
14 posted on 03/20/2013 6:52:16 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: George from New England

If you click on all of the neighbor’s property, you’ll see similar rates.


15 posted on 03/20/2013 6:52:22 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: ebersole

I looked up my own information:) My assessed value of my home per the tax man is 26830 (which is what the mill rate for taxes is pulled from) and market value is 400k


16 posted on 03/20/2013 6:56:26 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: ClearCase_guy
At some point, I expect this sort of thing to be quite common.

Bureaucratic fragging?

Sadly, it may well come to that. Don't know that this guy "deserved" it, or why he got it.

But when the oppressed finally decide that the oppressors are never going to let up, just get worse and worse, they might well make it open season on elected officials and executive/administrative bureaucrats.

As the US (should have) learned in Nam & the Soviets in Afghanistan, guerrilla warfare is nearly impossible to beat. It's like playing Smack a Mole. Something DHS, with all of its hubris, is going to discover when it clamps down on the general populace. And it will. When, not if.

17 posted on 03/20/2013 6:57:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: markomalley

I guess the takeaway is that everyone should be armed to the tooth against those that would do you harm, right?


18 posted on 03/20/2013 6:57:11 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: markomalley

I guess the takeaway is that everyone should be armed to the tooth against those that would do you harm, right?


19 posted on 03/20/2013 6:58:14 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: ebersole

yep, go north to Douglas county and the rates are 4x El Paso County.

FWIW, the County Sheriff, Terry Maketa, is in the middle of the opposition to the worthless gun laws signed today.


20 posted on 03/20/2013 7:00:29 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: markomalley

“One would figure that this official would be completely safe after Colorado’s comprehensive gun control law was signed...”

Obviously it wouldn’t have made a bit of difference, but this guy was killed before the law was signed (and well before it takes effect - in July, I believe).


21 posted on 03/20/2013 7:04:34 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: redlegplanner

That’s one of the reasons I chose to live in El Paso county and work in Denver! It was cheaper to commute the 45 minutes than to pay the much higher property tax and live amongst more liberals:)
Let’s hope the Sheriff continues to put his finger in the eye of the Democrats in the capital!!! As much as I dislike the yahoo Aurora cops and CS cops that live in my neighborhood, the Sheriff’s deputies that I’ve had dealings with were incredibly professional and appeared lawfully upstanding.


22 posted on 03/20/2013 7:05:09 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Add the liberal Media to that group.


23 posted on 03/20/2013 7:06:25 PM PDT by laplata
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To: markomalley

From a Progressive point of view, as long as the killer used a magazine of less than 15 rounds, the gun was legal.


24 posted on 03/20/2013 7:19:06 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Leveling the playing field for a Progressive is dragging everyone down to their level.)
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To: markomalley

Saudi hit job. It’s fortunate, thanks to the Obama administration, for the Saudi Arabians that they now can be on the “trusted flyer” list and by pass normal security. Makes it easier for their hit squads to “un-ass” as area quickly.


25 posted on 03/20/2013 7:20:22 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: ebersole

Well, I stand corrected. Such information is NOT in the public record in rural Texas, I assure you. You can’t access it that easily here. You have to know them personally to know where they live.


26 posted on 03/20/2013 7:28:30 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: markomalley
Hard to tell a motive for this particular shooting until/unless the culprits are found.

However, the market for entry-way cameras and intercoms is only going to increase as the former USA spirals down the toilet.

27 posted on 03/20/2013 7:30:43 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: ebersole
I have five cops living in my neighborhood and everyone of them is listed on the assessors’ website.

Oh wow. Not here. This is a different planet where I live compared to the rest of the world.

28 posted on 03/20/2013 7:31:05 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; ClearCase_guy
"At some point, I expect this sort of thing to be quite common."

"Bureaucratic fragging?"

Unintended Consequences ?
29 posted on 03/20/2013 7:32:52 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: backwoods-engineer

After the first, the rest are free. It’s just a matter of time.


30 posted on 03/20/2013 7:34:03 PM PDT by AmericanInsurgent
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“Almost all policemen’s residential information is NOT public record.”

ALL of that type of information is public record.


31 posted on 03/20/2013 7:34:34 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I really like your tag line....


32 posted on 03/20/2013 7:36:37 PM PDT by murrie (1 Samuel 13:16 MOLON LABE)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sorry to hear this but NOT surprised.
The surprising thing to me is that more gub mint types aren’t offed.
Or their families.
Specially when they continue to f with peoples lives.


33 posted on 03/20/2013 7:37:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: markomalley

“Glenn McGovern, an investigator with the Santa Clara County District Attorney’s office in California who tracks such incidents worldwide. He said there have been roughly as many in the past three years - at least 35 - as the entire prior decade.”

This boy is not very good at tracking incidents. At least 3,000 Qaddafhi judges, bureaucrats, prosecutors and elite officers were shot or hanged from lampposts during the Libyan civil war. I’m not including the 5,000 or more Qaddafhi African mercenaries who were gotten rid of.

McGovern has no idea of the rage that people around the world feel toward elitist scum.


34 posted on 03/20/2013 7:41:34 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

From the article

“It would have been simple to find Clements’ house. It took two clicks to get his correct street address through a publicly available Internet locator service Wednesday morning. The listing also included his previous home address in Missouri.”


35 posted on 03/20/2013 7:45:47 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I hear you.

With our “justice system” as it stands now, I expect these kinds of murders to become open daily occurrences, everywhere in the USA.

All the massive DHS stockpiles won't protect any element of the government from violent criminals...especially when the government has gone public in declaring the entire citizenry to be unindicted criminals.

Welcome to chaos!

We once had a Republic...

36 posted on 03/20/2013 7:51:55 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: George from New England
From the county assessor's office:


The assessment rate is set by the State Legislature. Mill levies are set each year by taxing authorities. The mill levy is the total percentage of each tax bill going to schools, fire districts, water and sanitation districts, library districts, governmental agencies, and other special districts that provide services to the area in which your property is located. Each tax district differs. The following is an example of how property taxes are calculated:

$100,000 (market value) x .0796 (current residential assessment rate) = $7,960 (assessed value)

then

$7,960 (assessed value) x .054454 (hypothetical mill rate) = $433.45 (approximate taxes due)

The Notice of Valuation says the Assessment Rate on my residential property is 7.96% yet the noted change in value does not reflect this percentage, why?

7.96% is the Current Assessment Rate for residential property, set by the State Legislature, not the percentage of Increase or Decrease in market value! The Assessment rate is the percentage of the estimated Market value upon which your property tax is calculated.

37 posted on 03/20/2013 8:07:35 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: markomalley; ClearCase_guy; Windflier; laplata; ebersole; MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; ...

This guy was the director of the Colorado Department of Corrections. He recently denied transfer to a Saudi prison for a certain well-to-do and influential Saudi gentleman, who’s serving a life sentence for keeping a housekeeper as his sex slave for four years. Most likely, in my opinion, the shooting is related.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22830150/tom-clements-director-colorado-department-corrections-killed-his#ixzz2O8m7baxL

Clements’ death occurred a week after he denied a request by a Saudi national, Homaidan al-Turki, to serve out the remainder of a Colorado prison sentence in Saudi Arabia, the Associated Press reported. He cited al-Turki’s refusal to undergo sex offender treatment in his denial.

Al-Turki, a well-known member of Denver’s Muslim community, was convicted in state court in 2006 of unlawful sexual contact by use of force, theft and extortion and sentenced to 28 years to life in prison. Prosecutors said al-Turki kept a housekeeper a virtual slave for four years in his home and sexually assaulted her. A judge reduced the sentence to eight years to life. Al-Turki insisted the case was politically motivated.

Al-Turki’s conviction angered Saudi officials and prompted the U.S. State Department to send Colorado Attorney General John Suthers to Saudi Arabia to meet with King Abdullah, Crown Prince Sultan and al-Turki’s family.

Dave Joly, Denver spokesman for the FBI, said agents are looking at all angles. He did not say if federal agents joined the investigation as a result of the al-Turki case. “Nothing is off the table,” Joly said in an e-mail. “If a lead comes up in another state or out of the area, the FBI is here to assist in any way we can.”

Mike Knight, chief investigator for the Arapahoe County District Attorney’s office, said the prosecutors who worked on the al-Turki case and other high-profile prosecutions at the DA’s office are taking increased security measures as a result of the slaying.

Read more: Tom Clements, executive director of Colorado prisons, killed in his home in Monument - The Denver Post
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38 posted on 03/20/2013 8:20:12 PM PDT by Bryan
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To: samadams2000; ChildOfThe60s; redlegplanner; Conscience of a Conservative; RetiredTexasVet; ...

See above post regarding possible motive for this homicide.


39 posted on 03/20/2013 8:24:06 PM PDT by Bryan
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To: ebersole

You are right. I picked up a ticket last year in Waldo Canyon, but the EPC Deputy was polite, professional, and truely appeared to be a guy just doing his job. I wasn’t irritated at all. That’s a pretty good trick in my opinion.

I wish Maleta would run for something bigger - replace Doug Lambert?


40 posted on 03/20/2013 8:25:20 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Bryan

Occam’s razor.

Most logical and simplest explanation is usually correct.

If I was going to lay down a bet, I would go with this.


41 posted on 03/20/2013 8:27:45 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: markomalley

IT’S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL, IT’S A SMALL WORLD AFTER ALL. IT’S A SMALL, SMALL, WORLD.


42 posted on 03/20/2013 8:37:52 PM PDT by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: redlegplanner

correction deflection: Maketa, not Maleta


43 posted on 03/20/2013 8:45:18 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Windflier

“Anyone seen Henry Bowman lately?”

...or Ranya Bardiwell ? (apologies to Travis...)


44 posted on 03/20/2013 8:48:36 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Bryan

Good info. Thanks. There are any muzzies in Super Max in Florence.


45 posted on 03/20/2013 8:49:35 PM PDT by laplata
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To: Bryan

I wouldn’t be surprised.
I think I’ve become more paranoid over the last year. The last 3 deliveries that were made to my home and required the delivery men to be in my home (furniture, appliances etc.) were all immigrants from Muslim countries (2 from Tajikistan and 1 from Uzbekistan). All spoke flawless English, though they had been in the country less than 3 years and none were on a student visa and all on supposed work visas though there only job was working as delivery men.
All I could think of when they left is when did I move back to Toledo, OH and not realize it and then I thought wow what a way for enemies to get to know the routes around an area and to get a feel for the people of a certain community!


46 posted on 03/20/2013 9:14:58 PM PDT by ebersole
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To: laplata

47 posted on 03/20/2013 9:15:59 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Are all journalists ignorant or are they trained to be so?)
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To: ASA Vet

Magazine. Thanks.


48 posted on 03/20/2013 9:34:34 PM PDT by laplata
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To: ebersole

Law enforcement had better have some serious discussions with the gun grabbing politicians. LE wants law abiding gun owners on their side.


49 posted on 03/20/2013 9:56:54 PM PDT by laplata
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“This was a professional hit”
Fox and Friends has a piece this AM linking this shooting to a Saudi, whose appeal was last denied by the victim.


50 posted on 03/21/2013 3:33:44 AM PDT by Makana
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